Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Dmitri Nikulin
On 2/1/07, ricardo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 31 Jan 2007 21:35:42 -0500 (EST) Justin C. Sherrill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, January 31, 2007 3:18 pm, Matthew Dillon wrote: I am seriously considering our options with regards to ZFS or a ZFS-like filesystem. We

Re: buildworld error v1.8 - undefined reference to `EVP_sha256'

2007-02-01 Thread Sascha Wildner
j s wrote: Here's the error. I have attempted building several times including from a cleaned /usr/src and cvsup with tag=. and tag=DragonFly_RELEASE_1_8_Slip cc -O -pipe -mtune=pentiumpro -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/sftp-server/../../lib/libssh

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Matthew Dillon wrote: :Besides the finalization of vkernel, what else can we expect into 2.0? There are many long-awaited (not only by me) features and additions: :- ZFS I am seriously considering our options with regards to ZFS or a ZFS-like filesystem. We clearly need something to

ath(4) major update

2007-02-01 Thread Sepherosa Ziehau
Hi all, Following is a patch updating ath(4) to the latest hal: http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~sephe/ath0.9.20.3.diff This patch is against src/sys For HEAD users, this patch should be applied cleanly. For 1.8 users, you probably need to apply following patch first:

Re: vkernel migration

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Nigel Weeks wrote: Just an idea for thought over your next coffee... I'm if it would be to conceivably possible to move a vkernel process(and any sub-processes it had) to another host? It'd have to stop temporarily, or at least, slow down immensely while pumping all the userland data inside the

Re: buildworld error v1.8 - undefined reference to `EVP_sha256'

2007-02-01 Thread YONETANI Tomokazu
On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 03:10:21PM -0800, j s wrote: cc -O -pipe -mtune=pentiumpro -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/sftp-server/../../lib/libssh -I/usr/src/secure/libexec/sftp-server/../../../crypto/openssh-4 -L/usr/pkg/lib -o sftp-server sftp-server.o sftp-common.o -lssh You have

Re: buildworld error v1.8 - undefined reference to `EVP_sha256'

2007-02-01 Thread j s
On 2/1/07, Sascha Wildner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: j s wrote: Here's the error. I have attempted building several times including from a cleaned /usr/src and cvsup with tag=. and tag=DragonFly_RELEASE_1_8_Slip snip Hm, how do you build? Do you have other settings in make.conf? I'm not

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Justin C. Sherrill
On Thu, February 1, 2007 3:20 am, Dmitri Nikulin wrote: That's not his point. He means that ZFS, while very good at what it is, would not be optimal for transparent clustering. And a file system which is designed for clustering won't necessarily be as good as ZFS on single machines. Either

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Justin C. Sherrill wrote: It's a moot point until Matt can evaluate modifying existing filesystems vs building a new one, though. I don't want NIH-ism to get in the way of having something neat, though Yah. I think porting ZFS and possibly inventing a new FS or pimping up ZFS can run in

clustered (file) system on multiple host

2007-02-01 Thread Martin P. Hellwig
Reading the list about vkernel, clustering and file system I've began to wonder. How on earth can you make a cluster without paying for the extreme overhead for locking everything? Is it a question of locking more specific or is there some 'magical' technology that helps you out of that.

Re: clustered (file) system on multiple host

2007-02-01 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Reading the list about vkernel, clustering and file system I've began to :wonder. : :How on earth can you make a cluster without paying for the extreme :overhead for locking everything? : :Is it a question of locking more specific or is there some 'magical' :technology that helps you out of

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Matthieu Guéguen
On 2/1/07, Simon 'corecode' Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yah. I think porting ZFS and possibly inventing a new FS or pimping up ZFS can run in parallel and thus ZFS _should_ be done. cheers simon Yes, I second that. Maybe ZFS could be improved to handle the problems Matt listed. And

Re: buildworld error v1.8 - undefined reference to `EVP_sha256'

2007-02-01 Thread j s
On 2/1/07, YONETANI Tomokazu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jan 31, 2007 at 03:10:21PM -0800, j s wrote: cc -O -pipe -mtune=pentiumpro You have something similar to this LDFLAGS=-L/usr/pkg/lib in /etc/make.conf? Try commenting out, or use a custom make.conf only for

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Chris Csanady
2007/1/31, Matthew Dillon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am seriously considering our options with regards to ZFS or a ZFS-like filesystem. We clearly need something to replace UFS, but I am a bit worried that porting ZFS would be as much work as simply designing a new filesystem from

Re: Plans for 1.8+ (2.0?)

2007-02-01 Thread Bill Hacker
Chris Csanady wrote: very well-thought-out post in re ZFS. Thanks! I'd only add that porting one or more 'foreign' fs in general seem to be a good idea - it is bound to show up things not yet covered well. In all of the published comparison tests, I have never seen a single 'always best' fs

Re: vkernel migration

2007-02-01 Thread Dave Hayes
Dmitri Nikulin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What? Opening this e-mail is acceptance of the terms specified in this e-mail? Not exactly, according to what I read. Nevertheless it's pretty unenforcable, for the same reasons you can't stop spam. A great example is already in DragonFly - process

jail/virtual servers and multiple network interfaces

2007-02-01 Thread Jeffrey Williams
I regularly make use of jail in FreeBSD for hosting virtual servers (typically for application development and testing, and infrastructure server configuration testing). One thing I have always found frustrating is the inability to set up a additional network interfaces on the machine so that

Re: jail/virtual servers and multiple network interfaces

2007-02-01 Thread Simon 'corecode' Schubert
Jeffrey Williams wrote: One thing I have always found frustrating is the inability to set up a additional network interfaces on the machine so that they can be dedicated to the jailed servers, in such a way that all the host's network traffic stays on the primary interface, and all the jail's

Re: jail/virtual servers and multiple network interfaces

2007-02-01 Thread Jeffrey Williams
Simon 'corecode' Schubert wrote: Jeffrey Williams wrote: One thing I have always found frustrating is the inability to set up a additional network interfaces on the machine so that they can be dedicated to the jailed servers, in such a way that all the host's network traffic stays on the