Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

+20 Alex Thurgood 11 Oct 2015 11:44via Postbox Le 10/10/2015 23:36, Italo Vignoli a écrit : Suffice it to say that Andreas is a vociferous participant in this discussion list, but

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Le 10/10/2015 23:36, Italo Vignoli a écrit : Suffice it to say that Andreas is a vociferous participant in this discussion list, but that doesn't make his criticisms any less justified or relevant. What he dislikes is badly implemented change for change's sake, and that is an inherent problem in

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Setting aside the discussion that followed, I would like to thank Andreas for his explanation of installing Debian packages from the command line. I've been using Ubuntu for about a year now, and I've learned how to use the Software Center and Synaptic as well as the "sudo apt-get..."

Re: [libreoffice-users] Printing in Impress and file dialogue choice

Mike Scott wrote: On 09/10/15 20:24, libreoffice-ml.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote: Mike Scott wrote: On 09/10/15 12:43, Malcolm Moore wrote: ... This is outstandingly horrible ! Yes. My summary for anyone in the same boat suffering from brain failure at the end of the week: . It

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Le 11/10/2015 14:15, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : Charles, > > I do not know where you got that support and security updates are only > available on Linux. That is factually wrong and serious bullshit. Get your > facts straight: support is the same for the three officially supported >

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Le 11/10/2015 14:50, Cor Nouws a écrit : > > Mind that not changing and improving compared where we are and were five > years ago, is no option. Agreed, but not, and I am expressing my own opinion, to the detriment of dropping a software behaviour nuke on the users/admins. >> At present, long

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Le 11 octobre 2015 14:12:37 GMT+02:00, "Andreas Säger" a écrit : >Am 10.10.2015 um 15:27 schrieb Florian Reisinger: >> Would you be so kind as to tell us which aspects got worse? > >Macro coders depend on either MRI (Python extension) or XRay (Basic >library). Both tools

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) +1 Although we often disagree with each other and have heated arguments at times i have a lot of respect for the technical support Andreas gives and also for his links to or suggestions of other places that give good support. He is a classic example of someone who works in both communities.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) Yes the separate sub-folders for different Desktop Environments was a work-around for some intractable problem which did eventually magically unravel and get fixed. I can't remember exactly when, maybe 4.2.0 or 4.3.0 - it was just after i found out about the work-around and was still

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) Many Gnu distros offer their own somewhat independent support through their own forums, mailing lists and bug-report systems. That type of support is not available to Windows users and may not be available to Mac people. However it is true that there are many other support systems

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi Cor :) LibreOffice has many advantages. One is the fast-paced development cycle. As with all projects there are advantages and disadvantages. One of the few disadvantages with LibreOffice is it's lack of an official LTS. Hopefully people who have a strong need for an LTS are able to find

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Am 10.10.2015 um 15:27 schrieb Florian Reisinger: > Would you be so kind as to tell us which aspects got worse? Macro coders depend on either MRI (Python extension) or XRay (Basic library). Both tools can be linked to the alphabetic index of the IDL reference for OpenOffice, however LibreOffice

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Le 11 octobre 2015 11:44:33 GMT+02:00, Alex Thurgood a écrit : >Le 10/10/2015 23:36, Italo Vignoli a écrit : > >Suffice it to say that Andreas is a vociferous participant in this >discussion list, but that doesn't make his criticisms any less >justified >or relevant.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi all, Alex Thurgood wrote on 11-10-15 11:44: > Suffice it to say that Andreas is a vociferous participant in this > discussion list, but that doesn't make his criticisms any less justified > or relevant. Indeed. Maybe I do not have the same opinion as Andreas always, but his technical

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Thank you for the positive feedback. I hope you noticed the correction of Oct 10, 2015; 1:12pm by Jean-Baptiste Faure-3 that there is no desktop-integration subfolder anymore. Well, there used to be a reason why it was organized this way, anyway. If the file /usr/bin/soffice does not exist,

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Alex Thurgood wrote on 11-10-15 15:06: > Agreed, but not, and I am expressing my own opinion, to the detriment of > dropping a software behaviour nuke on the users/admins. I hope that, compared to functionality in other software and on other devices, most changes will not be experienced as such

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) As you've probably noticed this mailing list often pulls in at least 2, often surprisingly opposite directions. * Technical Support * User Support Often those who do an excellent job near the extremes of one find themselves infuriated by those who work near the extreme of the other. I

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Le 11 octobre 2015 17:28:30 GMT+02:00, Tom Davies a écrit : >Hi :) >Many Gnu distros offer their own somewhat independent support >through >their own forums, mailing lists and bug-report systems. > >That type of support is not available to Windows users and may not be

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) +1 to both points. The UI issue is cropping up more often but many people, get over their initial dislike and prefer the return to sanity because it makes it easier to find things and easier to learn new stuff. The formats issue is mostly one of perception. People still believe the MS

Re: [libreoffice-users] Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Thanks Tom. We try. Blessings, Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA On 10/09/2015 06:05 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) ZenWiz!! Superb answer!! :))) I found this link about how to start writing scripts; https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/284789-writing-a-simple-bash-script- There are plenty of others

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Le 11 octobre 2015 14:43:39 GMT+02:00, Alex Thurgood a écrit : >Le 11/10/2015 14:15, Charles-H. Schulz a écrit : > > >Charles, > >> >> I do not know where you got that support and security updates are >only available on Linux. That is factually wrong and serious

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

On 11/10/15 11:44, Alex Thurgood wrote: > I would suggest putting yourself in an admin's place where they have > probably invested long hours in developing a turnkey > OpenOffice/LibreOffice solution for their group of users, then finding > one day that that longstanding behaviour has changed

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

On 10/11/2015 12:48 PM, Italo Vignoli wrote: On 11/10/15 11:44, Alex Thurgood wrote: I would suggest putting yourself in an admin's place where they have probably invested long hours in developing a turnkey OpenOffice/LibreOffice solution for their group of users, then finding one day that

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) The original question was about getting the newer versions installed. Ubuntu, especially their LTSes, tends to have quite old versions. Many people take a while to realise they are fine to keep using older versions, even ones that are no longer officially supported. Others enjoy being on

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi Looking at the subject line I am confused. Ubuntu ships with a version of LO in each release and LO is in the official Ubuntu repositories. So what was the actual question, which was never clear to me. The only question that made any sense was how to install a Ubuntu ppa for the latest

[libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Andreas Säger wrote > If you don't want any desktop integration because you want to use the new > suite as a secondary suite, rename/remove the desktop-ingegration.deb file > _before_ running dpkg and everything *should* be fine IMHO. Oh, that was sloppy posting because renaming won't prevent

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) No need to "beat yourself up over it". Your initial post made enough sense that people were able to run with it. Effectively it was little more than a typo and under a stress that none of us enjoy but a few have had to endure = so i think we can appreciate it being such a tiny and

[libreoffice-users] pptx files can't be opened when created with Impress 5.0.x

Hello, I've noticed that .pptx files (I selected the Microsoft PowerPoint 2007-2013 XML format) I created and saved with LibreOffice Impress 5.0.x (I tried both 5.0.2 the version before it) do not open correctly in Microsoft Office 2010. When opening, PowerPoint tells me that the file is

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

On 10/11/2015 02:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 to both points. The UI issue is cropping up more often but many people, get over their initial dislike and prefer the return to sanity because it makes it easier to find things and easier to learn new stuff. UI changes frustrate me to no

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

On 10/11/2015 03:42 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Heck, many places grumble about 'having to' upgrade from Xp because it 'only' lasted 10 years! Some organisations happily pay millions per year extra purely in order to be able to stay with the same old Xp and STILL haven't developed a strategy for

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi Tom and all: Thanks for the explanation about Software Center, Synaptic and Apt-get command. Regards, Jorge Rodríguez El dom, 11-10-2015 a las 15:40 +0100, Tom Davies escribió: > Hi :) > +1 > Although we often disagree with each other and have heated arguments at > times i have a

Re: [libreoffice-users] pptx files can't be opened when created with Impress 5.0.x

Hi :) I mostly just agree with Tim Lloyd but with more detail and alternatives. 1. Always avoid the 2007-2013 Microsoft XML format!!! It's not just one format, for a start! It's so inconsistently implemented in each version of MS Office that they call each version a new "transitional" format.

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

On 11/10/15 21:24, Virgil Arrington wrote: > having learned the old Wordstar Ctrl-key combinations and PC-Write's function > key combinations. I'd love to be able to use the Wordstar Command Set, when editing documents with LibreOffice, as would most users that are blind. Ideally, every

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) You are welcome :) I'm chuffed that i knew something you didn't already know. You often seem to be ahead of me with most things :) Not by your behaviour. You don't "act superior". You just say things that i didn't know and so i learn from you. So, i was glad to be able to help :)

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

Hi :) "Thanks for the flowers"/approval which i've snipped. It's a shock to finally agree on something! :)) The LTS approach was a new way of dealing with an old problem. The old and still current problem is that projects are pulled in 2 opposing directions; 1. exciting and new developments,

Re: [libreoffice-users] pptx files can't be opened when created with Impress 5.0.x

Hi, this looks like your problem, can you confirm pls? https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59323 If this is the same it is worth adding your comments. As a workaround though, is it possible to save the file as .ppt? Cheers On 12/10/15 08:07, avamk wrote: Hello, I've

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

On 10/11/2015 03:42 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) "Thanks for the flowers"/approval which i've snipped. It's a shock to finally agree on something! :)) The LTS approach was a new way of dealing with an old problem. The old and still current problem is that projects are pulled in 2 opposing

Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Installing Libreoffice in Ubuntu

+1 to Virgil's comments. Joe Conner, Poulsbo, WA USA On 10/11/2015 02:24 PM, Virgil Arrington wrote: On 10/11/2015 02:37 PM, Tom Davies wrote: Hi :) +1 to both points. The UI issue is cropping up more often but many people, get over their initial dislike and prefer the return to sanity

Re: [libreoffice-users] pptx files can't be opened when created with Impress 5.0.x

Something else to be aware of is that a presentation with sound is not compatible; the two programs handle sound completely differently. PowerPoint stores sound within the application, while Impress only stores links to the sound files (voice of experience here!). Dave Liesse -- To

Re: [libreoffice-users] Digital signatures

No one here used signatures? No one can help or give some advices to resolve problem? 07.10.2015, 10:00, "Евгений" : > Hello. > > Can someone help me with digital signatures? > > I tried LO 5.0.2, 4.4.5.2 and even AOO 4.1.1 on windows server 2008 r2. > > I have imported root CA