Re: [libreoffice-users] Query about privacy

[Robert Großkopf]

Hi Jodi,


Hi Libre team


you are writing to a mailinglist where users try to solve problems for
users.


I’m based in Australia and looking to use your office products.  I
wanted to know if the content of what is typed in your word
processing document or spreadsheet document is something that can be
seen by your system or third parties if I am using your desktop
versions or online versions of your products?


You are using your desktop versions only on desktop. There are some 
functions, which will use the contact to www, if you will allow this.
Tools → Options → LibreOffice → General: "Send crash reports to The 
Document Foundation"
Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Security options and warnings (a comlete 
dialog appears here)

Tools → Options → LibreOffice → Online Update

If you are using a cloud for your documents the cloud has nothing to do 
with LibreOffice.


If you are using a product like Collabora Office, which could work also 
as online version, you will install this office on a server you want. 
There is no server, which is hosted from The Document Foundation for 
online office.


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[libreoffice-users] Query about privacy

[Jodi Rolph]

Hi Libre team

I’m based in Australia and looking to use your office products.  I wanted to 
know if the content of what is typed in your word processing document or 
spreadsheet document is something that can be seen by your system or third 
parties if I am using your desktop versions or online versions of your products?

Sometimes I am typing information that is highly confidential, and I need to 
know about security of the content I am typing.  It is a requirement that I 
keep confidential information confidential.

Where are your servers located for Australian users please?

If your organisation is hacked, is there any risk that a hacker could see the 
content of my documents or spreadsheets for example? Or is it all solely kept 
on my desktop, or is there a way to keep it solely on my desktop?

In Australia, Microsoft for example has Australian based servers which is a 
requirement for my purposes.  I’d rather not just stick to Microsoft or Google 
products, but I need to know about the safety, security and confidentiality of 
the information I type into your products.

Thanks so much for your help,
Kind regards
Jodi



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[libreoffice-users] query re. LO 5 ...

[anne-ology]

   ... this new version seems to be lacking a great feature which I
enjoyed in the LO 3;
 back then, & on the MsFt-compatible computer, I was able to
make PPs, saving each version then I would place each of these together to
save only the best parts.

   But this feature seems to be lacking now - if it still exists, could
someone please let me know how to access. Yes, I can see how to insert
images, ... but not how to insert PPs.

   Maybe changing to a Mac wasn't a good idea after all; I sure wish I
knew how to get it to quit attempting to change the spelling of words & how
it only pretends to remember passwords part of the time.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Query

[Gabriele Ponzo]

Sure, please have a look here:
http://tdf.io/joinus

And feel free to ask ;)

Il 13 feb 2018 6:27 PM, "Sourabh Pruthi"  ha
scritto:

> Hello I am new to LibreOffice can I be presented a guide to contribute to
> LibreOffice
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[libreoffice-users] Query

[Sourabh Pruthi]

Hello I am new to LibreOffice can I be presented a guide to contribute to
LibreOffice

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[libreoffice-users] query ...

[anne-ology]

   ... who is this person?, why would he send this to me ???



From: Kim Maass 
Date: Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:17 PM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Check (tick) box.
To: anne-ology 


PLEASE TAKE ME OFF OF YOUR MAILING LIST!!


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 *From:* anne-ology 
*To:* users@global.libreoffice.org
*Sent:* Thursday, March 5, 2015 5:19 PM

*Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] Check (tick) box.

  That's because LO is compatible;
opening a document in LO is handled differently from
copying/pasting.

  If you're looking for a reason for this;
well, some of these folks on this list should be able to help
you -
  sorry, I'm not one of these gurus  ;-)

  In fact, my most recent computer problem arose a few months ago -
when sending out a newsletter,
  I do not attach anything although I do often include URLs ...
  how some of these URLs appear as attachments to the receiver has
me stumped.



From: Steve Edmonds 
Date: Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 11:59 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Check (tick) box.
To: anne-ology 


Thanks, a table could be configured.
The interesting part is that I could save the document as an odt file and
the tick boxes still worked as an odt file, even after closing and opening.
I just couldn't copy the tick boxes to another odt file.
Cheers, steve



On 2015-03-06 04:43, anne-ology wrote:

>Would a table do what you wish?
>
>BTW - copying/pasting from Word won't work since MSFT continually
> sets their own coding to be non compatible with others  ;-(
>
>
>
> From: Steve Edmonds 
> Date: Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 8:37 PM
> Subject: [libreoffice-users] Check (tick) box.
> To: "users@global.libreoffice.org" 
>
>
> Hi.
> Is there a way to add a check box (click it and a tick or x appears, click
> it again and it becomes empty) to a writer document. This does not need to
> be a form.
> Word has these and they work in LO when I open the word doc but I can't
> copy paste one to a writer document.
>
> Form controls are not easy to use keep crashing my LO 4.3 when I change
the
> anchor method so I don't know how robust that option is.
>
> Cheers,
> Steve
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query ...

[anne-ology]

   I apologize for taking your message the wrong way;
and I thank you for this explanation.

   Friends  :-)



From: Charles-H. Schulz 
Date: Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query ...
To: users@global.libreoffice.org


Hello Anne,

Waow. Thank you for making my private mail and question public,
especially when I had mentioned the mail to be private.

The reason I asked -and I asked this in private- was precisely not to
sound arrogant, trying to belittle you or anything of that sort.

>From what I understand, you did not know the answer to the question you
asked. It is  perfectly normal not to know, and perfectly normal to
ask. However, given the actual nature of your question, and the fact
that you have been around the project for quite some time (and a
moderator of the user list?) I would have expected you to know the
answer and then I thought that you were trying to have Sophie point at
the right URL. I was not sure. So I asked in private, knowing asking
such a question in public would not be taken the right way.

I apologize for having dared to ask a question in private and if that
question was taken the wrong way. It really wasn't  meant to be.

Charles.



Le Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:51:02 -0500,
anne-ology  a écrit :

>... this is an example of the inanity;
>   rather than responding, as 1 thoughtful soul did do,
> this person decides to ridicule me.
>
>Why shouldn't I have the right to know?; actually, why
> shouldn't the list have the right to know?
>
>BTW - IF this narcissistic attitude on the part of some on
> this list does not end, then the marketing of LO is fighting a losing
> battle; HOW can any user of this product learn, if we're attacked for
> asking questions?
>
>Sure some questions might seem overly simple to those who
> know, but to one who does not know, the answer, explained in a
> simplified manner, might be just what's needed in order to continue
> using these machines.
>
>And, remember, that you 'experts' on these machines were not
> always that way - you too had to ask questions and receive simplified
> answers.
>
>
>
> From: Charles-H. Schulz 
> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM
> Subject: PRIVATE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?
> To: anne-ology 
>
> Hello Anne,
>
> This is a private mail.
> Are you asking this question because you do not know the answer to it
> or because you would like to ensure everybody has the right
> information?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Charles.
>
>
> On 8 août 2014 17:20:06 CEST, anne-ology  wrote:
> >
> >and the URLs to subscribe to these would be ?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: rost52 
> > Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > On 2014-08-08 15:16, Sophie wrote:
> >
> >  Hi,
> >
> >>  Le 07/08/2014 19:39, Jon Harringdon a écrit :
> >>
> >>  The LO users mailing list is the only one I've ever encountered
> >> where
> >>>  people are MUCH more interested in debating "Office politics" and
> >>>  Administrivia than actual product features, bugs, workarounds
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>>  For the average user, the spectacle offered by this list can be
> >>> pretty off-putting. Just saying...
> >>
> >> <
> >>  br /> I
> >> agree with you, several of the discussions happening here should
> >>  happen on the discuss@ list and I understand that it could be
> >> really annoying for some users who only come here to ask or answer
> >> questions about the use of LibreOffice. It's the only users@ list
> >> in the project that I know doing so.
> >>  So all could you please stay on the topic of the list and post
> >>  discussions on the relevant discuss@ list. Thanks :)
> >>
> >>  Kind regards
> >>  Sophie
> >
> >
> >
> > Good to know that there is also a discussion list. Thanks Sophie.
> > For real technical questions and answers there is also AskLibO
> > forum.
> >
> >

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query ...

[Jim Seymour]

On Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:51:02 -0500
anne-ology  wrote:

>... this is an example of the inanity;
>   rather than responding, as 1 thoughtful soul did do,
> this person decides to ridicule me.
[snip]

Do you mean Charles' "Are you asking this question because.."
question?  Maybe it's a language barrier thing, but that wasn't
ridicule.   That was just a question.

Regards,
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query ...

[Charles-H. Schulz]

Hello Anne,

Waow. Thank you for making my private mail and question public,
especially when I had mentioned the mail to be private. 

The reason I asked -and I asked this in private- was precisely not to
sound arrogant, trying to belittle you or anything of that sort. 

>From what I understand, you did not know the answer to the question you
asked. It is  perfectly normal not to know, and perfectly normal to
ask. However, given the actual nature of your question, and the fact
that you have been around the project for quite some time (and a
moderator of the user list?) I would have expected you to know the
answer and then I thought that you were trying to have Sophie point at
the right URL. I was not sure. So I asked in private, knowing asking
such a question in public would not be taken the right way. 

I apologize for having dared to ask a question in private and if that
question was taken the wrong way. It really wasn't  meant to be.

Charles.


Le Sat, 9 Aug 2014 09:51:02 -0500,
anne-ology  a écrit :

>... this is an example of the inanity;
>   rather than responding, as 1 thoughtful soul did do,
> this person decides to ridicule me.
> 
>Why shouldn't I have the right to know?; actually, why
> shouldn't the list have the right to know?
> 
>BTW - IF this narcissistic attitude on the part of some on
> this list does not end, then the marketing of LO is fighting a losing
> battle; HOW can any user of this product learn, if we're attacked for
> asking questions?
> 
>Sure some questions might seem overly simple to those who
> know, but to one who does not know, the answer, explained in a
> simplified manner, might be just what's needed in order to continue
> using these machines.
> 
>And, remember, that you 'experts' on these machines were not
> always that way - you too had to ask questions and receive simplified
> answers.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Charles-H. Schulz 
> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM
> Subject: PRIVATE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?
> To: anne-ology 
> 
> Hello Anne,
> 
> This is a private mail.
> Are you asking this question because you do not know the answer to it
> or because you would like to ensure everybody has the right
> information?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Charles.
> 
> 
> On 8 août 2014 17:20:06 CEST, anne-ology  wrote:
> >
> >and the URLs to subscribe to these would be ?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: rost52 
> > Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:57 AM
> > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >
> >
> > On 2014-08-08 15:16, Sophie wrote:
> >
> >  Hi,
> >
> >>  Le 07/08/2014 19:39, Jon Harringdon a écrit :
> >>
> >>  The LO users mailing list is the only one I've ever encountered
> >> where
> >>>  people are MUCH more interested in debating "Office politics" and
> >>>  Administrivia than actual product features, bugs, workarounds
> >>> etc.
> >>>
> >>>  For the average user, the spectacle offered by this list can be
> >>> pretty off-putting. Just saying...
> >>
> >> <
> >>  br /> I
> >> agree with you, several of the discussions happening here should
> >>  happen on the discuss@ list and I understand that it could be
> >> really annoying for some users who only come here to ask or answer
> >> questions about the use of LibreOffice. It's the only users@ list
> >> in the project that I know doing so.
> >>  So all could you please stay on the topic of the list and post
> >>  discussions on the relevant discuss@ list. Thanks :)
> >>
> >>  Kind regards
> >>  Sophie
> >
> >
> >
> > Good to know that there is also a discussion list. Thanks Sophie.
> > For real technical questions and answers there is also AskLibO
> > forum.
> >
> >
> 



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[libreoffice-users] query ...

[anne-ology]

   ... this is an example of the inanity;
  rather than responding, as 1 thoughtful soul did do, this
person decides to ridicule me.

   Why shouldn't I have the right to know?; actually, why shouldn't the
list have the right to know?

   BTW - IF this narcissistic attitude on the part of some on this list
does not end, then the marketing of LO is fighting a losing battle;
 HOW can any user of this product learn, if we're attacked for
asking questions?

   Sure some questions might seem overly simple to those who know, but
to one who does not know, the answer, explained in a simplified manner,
might be just what's needed in order to continue using these machines.

   And, remember, that you 'experts' on these machines were not always
that way - you too had to ask questions and receive simplified answers.



From: Charles-H. Schulz 
Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 10:26 AM
Subject: PRIVATE : Re: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?
To: anne-ology 

Hello Anne,

This is a private mail.
Are you asking this question because you do not know the answer to it or
because you would like to ensure everybody has the right information?

Thank you,

Charles.


On 8 août 2014 17:20:06 CEST, anne-ology  wrote:
>
>and the URLs to subscribe to these would be ?
>
>
>
> From: rost52 
> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 4:57 AM
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Too much Politics?
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>
>
> On 2014-08-08 15:16, Sophie wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
>>  Le 07/08/2014 19:39, Jon Harringdon a écrit :
>>
>>  The LO users mailing list is the only one I've ever encountered where
>>>  people are MUCH more interested in debating "Office politics" and
>>>  Administrivia than actual product features, bugs, workarounds etc.
>>>
>>>  For the average user, the spectacle offered by this list can be pretty
>>>  off-putting. Just saying...
>>
>> <
>>  br /> I
>> agree with you, several of the discussions happening here should
>>  happen on the discuss@ list and I understand that it could be really
>>  annoying for some users who only come here to ask or answer questions
>>  about the use of LibreOffice. It's the only users@ list in the project
>>  that I know doing so.
>>  So all could you please stay on the topic of the list and post
>>  discussions on the relevant discuss@ list. Thanks :)
>>
>>  Kind regards
>>  Sophie
>
>
>
> Good to know that there is also a discussion list. Thanks Sophie.
> For real technical questions and answers there is also AskLibO forum.
>
>

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[libreoffice-users] query ...

[anne-ology]

   ... curiously wondering why this (see below) wasn't delivered to the
list ???



From: 
Date: Sat, May 17, 2014 at 12:47 PM
Subject: Post to users@global.libreoffice.org denied: Re: Information for
users@global.libreoffice.org
To: lagin...@gmail.com


Hi, this is the Mlmmj program managing the 
mailing list.

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From: anne-ology 
To: Thomas Taylor 
Cc: users+ow...@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 12:47:19 -0500
Subject: [libreoffice-users] Re: Information for
users@global.libreoffice.org

   ditto here.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Query

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Can Base directly connect to a Lotus Approach database and use it as
the back-end?

@Ernest, Have you still got access to the old Windows and thus the
Lotus Approach directly or was this an upgrade (or a machine exchange
or some sort)?  I take it you exported the data as a ".csv" file and
that is what is looking like a flat spreadsheet?

Alan B's way of making a form sounds like the best as it should allow
easy data-entry.  If you need people to be able to access it in only
read mode then it might be good to make a form in Writer so that they
have all the tools they are familiar with

Regards from
Tom :)

On 19 January 2014 13:31, Alan B  wrote:
> On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Ernest Dale wrote:
>
>> ... I appear to have succeeded but the result
>> is what looks like a spreadsheet and I cannot find a way to display one
>> record at a time.
>>
>
> As already suggested filtering can limit the number of rows that are
> displayed. If you prefer to see the data in a form (which shows only one
> record at a time regardless of filtering) rather than what appears to be a
> row in a spreadsheet...
>
> 1. Open your LO Base database.
> 2. Select "Forms" from the column of icons on the left side of the window
> 3. In Tasks, near the center top of the window, select either option. I
> suggest selecting "Use Wizard to Create Form..."
> 4. Use the options in the Wizard to create a form that displays one record
> at a time.
> -- Form arrangement options are in step 5 of the form wizard. Chose any
> "Arrangement of the main form" options *except* "As Data Sheet"
>
>
>> ... I could do with
>> a simpler manual than the one I have found on the web which is hundreds of
>> pages long and I cannot copy the sections which look as thought they might
>> be helpful. Can you help?
>> Ernest Dale
>>
>> 
>
>
> If you haven't already found this link
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide
> it connects to several varieties of documentation. A full manual which you
> apparently found and several smaller guides as well.
>
> I don't have any idea what is causing your problem "...I cannot copy the
> sections..." The link provided above goes to user guides in both PDF and
> ODT format. Individual pages can be printed from any of these documents.
> And, anything in those documents can be copied using the usual method
> - select with mouse
> - right click selection
> - click copy
> - go to destination
> - paste copied text/image into destination
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Query

[jomali]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Ernest Dale wrote:

> I run an important database on Lotus Approach and I have found that
> Approach will not install on a fresh version of Windows.
> To surmount the problem I have downloaded Libre Office and attempted to
> transfer the database on to it. I appear to have succeeded but the result
> is what looks like a spreadsheet and I cannot find a way to display one
> record at a time.
> I am pretty computer savvy even though ninety years of age. I could do with
> a simpler manual than the one I have found on the web which is hundreds of
> pages long and I cannot copy the sections which look as thought they might
> be helpful. Can you help?
> Ernest Dale
> ernest.dal...@gmail.com
>
> Ernest,

Since Approach used the dBase file format as its default, did you import
the data using the LO dBase import filter? If you did, it's likely that you
imported it into LO Calc, which is a spreadsheet program. You can open the
spreadsheet in LO Base, but it will be read-only.

Please let us know the operating system us are using and the version of LO
you are using, along with more details, such as whether you really need the
capabilities of a relational database and the kind of reports you need to
produce.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Query

[Alan B]

On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Ernest Dale wrote:

> ... I appear to have succeeded but the result
> is what looks like a spreadsheet and I cannot find a way to display one
> record at a time.
>

As already suggested filtering can limit the number of rows that are
displayed. If you prefer to see the data in a form (which shows only one
record at a time regardless of filtering) rather than what appears to be a
row in a spreadsheet...

1. Open your LO Base database.
2. Select "Forms" from the column of icons on the left side of the window
3. In Tasks, near the center top of the window, select either option. I
suggest selecting "Use Wizard to Create Form..."
4. Use the options in the Wizard to create a form that displays one record
at a time.
-- Form arrangement options are in step 5 of the form wizard. Chose any
"Arrangement of the main form" options *except* "As Data Sheet"


> ... I could do with
> a simpler manual than the one I have found on the web which is hundreds of
> pages long and I cannot copy the sections which look as thought they might
> be helpful. Can you help?
> Ernest Dale
>
> 


If you haven't already found this link
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications#LibreOffice_Base_Guide
it connects to several varieties of documentation. A full manual which you
apparently found and several smaller guides as well.

I don't have any idea what is causing your problem "...I cannot copy the
sections..." The link provided above goes to user guides in both PDF and
ODT format. Individual pages can be printed from any of these documents.
And, anything in those documents can be copied using the usual method
- select with mouse
- right click selection
- click copy
- go to destination
- paste copied text/image into destination

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Query

[John R. Sowden]

On 01/19/2014 03:15 AM, Ernest Dale wrote:

I run an important database on Lotus Approach and I have found that
Approach will not install on a fresh version of Windows.
To surmount the problem I have downloaded Libre Office and attempted to
transfer the database on to it. I appear to have succeeded but the result
is what looks like a spreadsheet and I cannot find a way to display one
record at a time.
I am pretty computer savvy even though ninety years of age. I could do with
a simpler manual than the one I have found on the web which is hundreds of
pages long and I cannot copy the sections which look as thought they might
be helpful. Can you help?
Ernest Dale
ernest.dal...@gmail.com


I have been considering using Approach as a database/language like Foxpro
under Linux/Wine.  Have you tried this or are you using MS Windows.

John


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Query

[Heinrich Stoellinger]

Hello Ernest,
I don't know whether I understand your query completely, but - have you tried
the various filtering capabilites that are available in the menu bar of Base?
Regards
Heinrich
P.S.: I am also quite an oldie - was around (IBM) before the time Ed Codd 
"invented"
SQL/Rel.DB

On Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:15:40 +0100, Ernest Dale  wrote:


I run an important database on Lotus Approach and I have found that
Approach will not install on a fresh version of Windows.
To surmount the problem I have downloaded Libre Office and attempted to
transfer the database on to it. I appear to have succeeded but the result
is what looks like a spreadsheet and I cannot find a way to display one
record at a time.
I am pretty computer savvy even though ninety years of age. I could do with
a simpler manual than the one I have found on the web which is hundreds of
pages long and I cannot copy the sections which look as thought they might
be helpful. Can you help?
Ernest Dale
ernest.dal...@gmail.com




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[libreoffice-users] Query

[Ernest Dale]

I run an important database on Lotus Approach and I have found that
Approach will not install on a fresh version of Windows.
To surmount the problem I have downloaded Libre Office and attempted to
transfer the database on to it. I appear to have succeeded but the result
is what looks like a spreadsheet and I cannot find a way to display one
record at a time.
I am pretty computer savvy even though ninety years of age. I could do with
a simpler manual than the one I have found on the web which is hundreds of
pages long and I cannot copy the sections which look as thought they might
be helpful. Can you help?
Ernest Dale
ernest.dal...@gmail.com

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[libreoffice-users] query text on base

[yahoo-pier_andreit]

I'm starting to use base, reading help I found:

Examples
='Ms.'
returns field names with the field content "Ms."

and

Querying text fields
To query the content of a text field, you must put the expression 
between single quotes. The distinction between uppercase and lowercase 
letters depends on the database in use. LIKE, by definition, is 
case-sensitive (though some databases don't see it that strict).


It seems that I can query this fields

abcd
asdf
sadr
erte

with 'a' and obtain

abcd
asdf
sadr

but it doesn't works and it seems I have to use LIKE '*a*' to obtain

abcd
asdf
sadr

is this the correct behaviour or it is a bug??
	if it is the correct behaviour in the help I think it should be 
something like this "returns field names where the field IS "Ms.""


is the LIKE command the correct way to find a portion of text in the field??

what I have to use to have a non case-sensitive query??

manythanks, ciao, pier :-)

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Re: [OT] pun/counterpun (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...)

[anne-ology]

   yep, cute that's you  ;-)



On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>
>cute, cuter, cutest ...
>>   you're surely t' best.
>>
>>   [further comments below]
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>you took all my puns away ...
>>>


>>> just doing humanity a service.
>>>
>>
>>
>>   [http://www.thepunalsorises.**com/
>> ]
>>
>> I haven't any more; but ne'er fear,
>>>
   the punster will re-appear  ;-)


>>> we are armed.
>>>
>>
>>
>>  Tom Jefferson complained in 1787 about all the punning going on at the
> Consitutional convention in Philadelphia; I think he struck the right note
> when he wrote to Abigail Adams:
>
> "The people at large view every object only as it may furnish puns and bon
> mots; and I pronounce that a good punster would disarm the whole nation
> were they ever so seriously disposed to revolt.”
>
>["... to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, And by opposing end
>> them" yet I've punned with the best of 'em, ne'er taken yet  ;-) ]
>>
>
> watch out lest you be outpunned.
>
> (btw I don't buy Pollack's theory. quote from Jefferson from <
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.**com/ten-miles-square/2011/05/**
> bonfire_of_the_**hannities029811.php
> >)
>
>  [...]
>>
>>> I think the 'r' stands for 'remote' but I don't know; the source doesn't
>>> need to be 'remote' though. I just backed up one older external drive I
>>> have (was making funny noises) to another newer one.
>>>
>>>
>>   [funny noises, eh ... maybe it was speaking to you in its own
>> language  ;-) ]
>>
>
> yeah, only I was the one making the noises.
>
> F.
>
>  On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

 On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:


>rsync  ???
>
>
>>   I think i are sinking fast ...
>>
>> sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
>>
>>
>>  you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do
> with
> 'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.
>
> 'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
>
> sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
> matters.
>
> (and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
>
> 'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
> don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
>
> Felmon Davis
>
>
>
>>
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Re: rsync, dd (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...)

[anne-ology]

   Ok, now that that's clear as mud  ;-)

  anyone care for a piece of Mississippi Mud  ;-)



On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 10:34 AM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote:
>
>  Hi :)
>>
>> If rsync is available on Windows then it might not be so easy to charge
>> people so much for apps that do back-ups.  Unless no-one knew about it of
>> course.
>>
>
> kind of like with LO
>
> anyway, there are Windows versions.
>
>  I tried a back-up utility that looked great until i used it to restore a
>> bootable Windows and found the Windows boot-loader was completely lost
>> because things were not in exactly the right place.
>>
>
> in my experience Windows7 puts some kind of 'metadata' file at some exact
> location in the middle or towards the end of the 'boot' partition; it
> screws up if it doesn't find it exactly where it expects it. thus one has
> to be cautious about resizing a Windows partition with non-Windows software.
>
>  Someone suggested using dd but to grep it through some archiving tool.  I
>> did fix the Windows restored drive but by installing Grub2.  Grub2 survived
>> the back-up and restore process but it felt like i was cheating because the
>> whole purpose was to restore the machine to exactly the way it arrived from
>> the store.
>>
>> I'm going to ask about grepping a dd through an archiving tool on
>> http://www.linuxquestions.org
>> to see if they can give me a good idea of how to actually write the
>> command.
>>
>
> it's easier just to google it (I always forget the syntax); lot of useful
> pages but perhaps this is a start <http://wiki.eeeuser.com/**
> backup_restore <http://wiki.eeeuser.com/backup_restore>>.
>
> the thing about dd is that it is _exact_ so suppose you have 30g on a 100g
> partition; dd will copy all 110g including 'empty' space. this also means
> you cannot restore to a partition that is smaller than 100g.
>
> this is good for that Windows 7 issue since everything is exactly in
> place. I'd be more inclined to shrink that partition using Windows, thus
> avoiding the metadata problem, and then back up, etc.
>
>  Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>
> F.
>
>
>>> From: Felmon Davis 
>>> To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 19:23
>>> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>>>
>>> rsync  ???
>>>>
>>>>I think i are sinking fast ...
>>>>
>>>> sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
>>>>
>>>
>>> you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
>>> 'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.
>>>
>>> 'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
>>>
>>> sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
>>> matters.
>>>
>>> (and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
>>>
>>> 'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
>>> don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
>>>
>>> F.
>>>
>>>

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[OT] pun/counterpun (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...)

[Felmon Davis]

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:


  cute, cuter, cutest ...
  you're surely t' best.

  [further comments below]



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:


   you took all my puns away ...




just doing humanity a service.



  [http://www.thepunalsorises.com/]


   I haven't any more; but ne'er fear,

  the punster will re-appear  ;-)



we are armed.



Tom Jefferson complained in 1787 about all the punning going on at the 
Consitutional convention in Philadelphia; I think he struck the right 
note when he wrote to Abigail Adams:


"The people at large view every object only as it may furnish puns and 
bon mots; and I pronounce that a good punster would disarm the whole 
nation were they ever so seriously disposed to revolt.”



  ["... to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, And by opposing end
them" yet I've punned with the best of 'em, ne'er taken yet  ;-) ]


watch out lest you be outpunned.

(btw I don't buy Pollack's theory. quote from Jefferson from 
)



[...]

I think the 'r' stands for 'remote' but I don't know; the source doesn't
need to be 'remote' though. I just backed up one older external drive I
have (was making funny noises) to another newer one.



  [funny noises, eh ... maybe it was speaking to you in its own
language  ;-) ]


yeah, only I was the one making the noises.

F.


On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:



   rsync  ???



  I think i are sinking fast ...

sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken



you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.

'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.

sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
matters.

(and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)

'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.

Felmon Davis






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rsync, dd (was: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...)

[Felmon Davis]

On Wed, 5 Dec 2012, Tom Davies wrote:


Hi :)

If rsync is available on Windows then it might not be so easy to 
charge people so much for apps that do back-ups.  Unless no-one knew 
about it of course. 


kind of like with LO

anyway, there are Windows versions.

I tried a back-up utility that looked great until i used it to 
restore a bootable Windows and found the Windows boot-loader was 
completely lost because things were not in exactly the right place. 


in my experience Windows7 puts some kind of 'metadata' file at some 
exact location in the middle or towards the end of the 'boot' 
partition; it screws up if it doesn't find it exactly where it expects 
it. thus one has to be cautious about resizing a Windows partition 
with non-Windows software.


Someone suggested using dd but to grep it through some archiving 
tool.  I did fix the Windows restored drive but by installing 
Grub2.  Grub2 survived the back-up and restore process but it felt 
like i was cheating because the whole purpose was to restore the 
machine to exactly the way it arrived from the store. 


I'm going to ask about grepping a dd through an archiving tool on 
http://www.linuxquestions.org

to see if they can give me a good idea of how to actually write the command. 


it's easier just to google it (I always forget the syntax); lot of 
useful pages but perhaps this is a start 
<http://wiki.eeeuser.com/backup_restore>.


the thing about dd is that it is _exact_ so suppose you have 30g on a 
100g partition; dd will copy all 110g including 'empty' space. this 
also means you cannot restore to a partition that is smaller than 
100g.


this is good for that Windows 7 issue since everything is exactly in 
place. I'd be more inclined to shrink that partition using Windows, 
thus avoiding the metadata problem, and then back up, etc.



Regards from
Tom :) 


F.



From: Felmon Davis 
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 19:23

Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:


       rsync  ???

       I think i are sinking fast ...

sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken


you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with 'sink'; 
one is germanic, the other is greek.

'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.

sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths, matters.

(and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)

'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I don't 
know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.

F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   dd greps the grub  ;-)

   and just as I thought it was safe to go back in the water  ;-)



On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> If rsync is available on Windows then it might not be so easy to charge
> people so much for apps that do back-ups.  Unless no-one knew about it of
> course.
>
> I tried a back-up utility that looked great until i used it to restore a
> bootable Windows and found the Windows boot-loader was completely lost
> because things were not in exactly the right place.  Someone suggested
> using dd but to grep it through some archiving tool.  I did fix the Windows
> restored drive but by installing Grub2.  Grub2 survived the back-up and
> restore process but it felt like i was cheating because the whole purpose
> was to restore the machine to exactly the way it arrived from the store.
>
> I'm going to ask about grepping a dd through an archiving tool on
> http://www.linuxquestions.org
> to see if they can give me a good idea of how to actually write the
> command.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Felmon Davis 
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 19:23
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> >
> >On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> >>   rsync  ???
> >>
> >>   I think i are sinking fast ...
> >>
> >> sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
> >
> >you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
> 'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.
> >
> >'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
> >
> >sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
> matters.
> >
> >(and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
> >
> >'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
> don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
> >
> >F.
> >
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   Ok, I've placed rsync on my todo list ... will 'search' and learn
more re. this aspect of these 'glorified typewriters'.

   Thank you to both you helpful souls!



On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 3:14 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> grsync has a nice pretty gui front-end but uses
> rsync
> to do the work, of course.  Rsync works from the command-line and has more
> options but GRsync is easier for point&click users like me.
>
> One advantage is that it keeps permissions intact whereas copy&paste or
> drag&drop tend to twist things so that the current user can read/write.
> Not something you want with system files.
>
> I was just making the point that LO's User Profile is happy to let the
> user mess around with it quite a lot.  Evolution's gets really grumbly
> about it and you soemtimes have to export your stuff from inside the
> program, then upgrade, then open the new versions and import.  VERY
> different from the friendliness of LO's user profile.
>
>
> Btw thanks for the warning about hard-drive noises.  My new machine at
> work has started making occasional noises but it's so intermittent i was
> ignoring them.  Good idea to back-up now right!?!  I used to know someone
> that would always leave it until it made horrible grinding noises but then
> he kept losing data.  I'm really glad i am not living in a hot, sandy,
> windy desert anymore!
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>   ------
> *From:* anne-ology 
> *To:* Felmon 
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 2:29
>
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>
>   cute, cuter, cutest ...
>   you're surely t' best.
>
>   [further comments below]
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:
>
> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> >you took all my puns away ...
> >>
> >
> > just doing humanity a service.
>
>
>   [http://www.thepunalsorises.com/]
>
> >
> >
> >I haven't any more; but ne'er fear,
> >>  the punster will re-appear  ;-)
> >>
> >
> > we are armed.
>
>
>   ["... to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, And by opposing end
> them" yet I've punned with the best of 'em, ne'er taken yet  ;-) ]
>
> >
> >
> >And, by the way, I really haven't learned what rsync is - I guess
> I
> >> could 'search' and learn  ;-)
> >>
> >
> > it's a utility for transferring files, especially backing them up. so I
> do
> > a frequent backup of certain directories I have on a server to my home
> > computer. rsync is fast and will only make copies of stuff that's not
> > already at the destination (if you set it to work that way).
> >
> > I think the 'r' stands for 'remote' but I don't know; the source doesn't
> > need to be 'remote' though. I just backed up one older external drive I
> > have (was making funny noises) to another newer one.
> >
>
>   [funny noises, eh ... maybe it was speaking to you in its own
> language  ;-) ]
>
>
> >
> > F.
>
>
>   Oh, yes, Thanks for this information!
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>
> >> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>>rsync  ???
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  I think i are sinking fast ...
> >>>>
> >>>> sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
> >>> 'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.
> >>>
> >>> 'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
> >>>
> >>> sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
> >>> matters.
> >>>
> >>> (and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
> >>>
> >>> 'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
> >>> don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
> >>>
> >>> Felmon Davis
> >>>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
If rsync is available on Windows then it might not be so easy to charge people 
so much for apps that do back-ups.  Unless no-one knew about it of course.  

I tried a back-up utility that looked great until i used it to restore a 
bootable Windows and found the Windows boot-loader was completely lost because 
things were not in exactly the right place.  Someone suggested using dd but to 
grep it through some archiving tool.  I did fix the Windows restored drive but 
by installing Grub2.  Grub2 survived the back-up and restore process but it 
felt like i was cheating because the whole purpose was to restore the machine 
to exactly the way it arrived from the store.  

I'm going to ask about grepping a dd through an archiving tool on 
http://www.linuxquestions.org
to see if they can give me a good idea of how to actually write the command.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: Felmon Davis 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 19:23
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> 
>On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>
>>       rsync  ???
>> 
>>       I think i are sinking fast ...
>> 
>> sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
>
>you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with 'sink'; 
>one is germanic, the other is greek.
>
>'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
>
>sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths, matters.
>
>(and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
>
>'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I don't 
>know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
>
>F.
>
>-- Felmon Davis
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
grsync has a nice pretty gui front-end but uses 
rsync
to do the work, of course.  Rsync works from the command-line and has more 
options but GRsync is easier for point&click users like me.  

One advantage is that it keeps permissions intact whereas copy&paste or 
drag&drop tend to twist things so that the current user can read/write.  Not 
something you want with system files.  

I was just making the point that LO's User Profile is happy to let the user 
mess around with it quite a lot.  Evolution's gets really grumbly about it and 
you soemtimes have to export your stuff from inside the program, then upgrade, 
then open the new versions and import.  VERY different from the friendliness of 
LO's user profile.  


Btw thanks for the warning about hard-drive noises.  My new machine at work has 
started making occasional noises but it's so intermittent i was ignoring them.  
Good idea to back-up now right!?!  I used to know someone that would always 
leave it until it made horrible grinding noises but then he kept losing data.  
I'm really glad i am not living in a hot, sandy, windy desert anymore!  

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Felmon  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, 5 December 2012, 2:29
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> 
>       cute, cuter, cutest ...
>       you're surely t' best.
>
>       [further comments below]
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:
>
>On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>>
>>        you took all my puns away ...
>>>
>>
>> just doing humanity a service.
>
>
>       [http://www.thepunalsorises.com/]
>
>>
>>
>>            I haven't any more; but ne'er fear,
>>>           the punster will re-appear  ;-)
>>>
>>
>> we are armed.
>
>
>       ["... to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, And by opposing end
>them" yet I've punned with the best of 'em, ne'er taken yet  ;-) ]
>
>>
>>
>>        And, by the way, I really haven't learned what rsync is - I guess I
>>> could 'search' and learn  ;-)
>>>
>>
>> it's a utility for transferring files, especially backing them up. so I do
>> a frequent backup of certain directories I have on a server to my home
>> computer. rsync is fast and will only make copies of stuff that's not
>> already at the destination (if you set it to work that way).
>>
>> I think the 'r' stands for 'remote' but I don't know; the source doesn't
>> need to be 'remote' though. I just backed up one older external drive I
>> have (was making funny noises) to another newer one.
>>
>
>       [funny noises, eh ... maybe it was speaking to you in its own
>language  ;-) ]
>
>
>>
>> F.
>
>
>       Oh, yes, Thanks for this information!
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>        rsync  ???
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       I think i are sinking fast ...
>>>>>
>>>>> sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
>>>> 'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.
>>>>
>>>> 'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
>>>>
>>>> sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
>>>> matters.
>>>>
>>>> (and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
>>>>
>>>> 'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
>>>> don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
>>>>
>>>> Felmon Davis
>>>>
>>>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   cute, cuter, cutest ...
   you're surely t' best.

   [further comments below]



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>
>you took all my puns away ...
>>
>
> just doing humanity a service.


   [http://www.thepunalsorises.com/]

>
>
>I haven't any more; but ne'er fear,
>>   the punster will re-appear  ;-)
>>
>
> we are armed.


   ["... to take Arms against a Sea of troubles, And by opposing end
them" yet I've punned with the best of 'em, ne'er taken yet  ;-) ]

>
>
>And, by the way, I really haven't learned what rsync is - I guess I
>> could 'search' and learn  ;-)
>>
>
> it's a utility for transferring files, especially backing them up. so I do
> a frequent backup of certain directories I have on a server to my home
> computer. rsync is fast and will only make copies of stuff that's not
> already at the destination (if you set it to work that way).
>
> I think the 'r' stands for 'remote' but I don't know; the source doesn't
> need to be 'remote' though. I just backed up one older external drive I
> have (was making funny noises) to another newer one.
>

   [funny noises, eh ... maybe it was speaking to you in its own
language  ;-) ]


>
> F.


   Oh, yes, Thanks for this information!


>
>
>
>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>rsync  ???
>>>

   I think i are sinking fast ...

 sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken


>>> you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
>>> 'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.
>>>
>>> 'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
>>>
>>> sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
>>> matters.
>>>
>>> (and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
>>>
>>> 'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
>>> don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
>>>
>>> Felmon Davis
>>>
>>>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Felmon Davis]

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:


  you took all my puns away ...


just doing humanity a service.


  I haven't any more; but ne'er fear,
  the punster will re-appear  ;-)


we are armed.


  And, by the way, I really haven't learned what rsync is - I guess I
could 'search' and learn  ;-)


it's a utility for transferring files, especially backing them up. so 
I do a frequent backup of certain directories I have on a server to my 
home computer. rsync is fast and will only make copies of stuff that's 
not already at the destination (if you set it to work that way).


I think the 'r' stands for 'remote' but I don't know; the source 
doesn't need to be 'remote' though. I just backed up one older 
external drive I have (was making funny noises) to another newer one.


F.

 >



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:


   rsync  ???


  I think i are sinking fast ...

sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken



you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.

'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.

sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
matters.

(and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)

'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.

Felmon Davis

Advice is a dangerous gift; be cautious about giving and receiving it.






--
Felmon Davis

Fortune and love befriend the bold.
-- Ovid

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   you took all my puns away ...
   I haven't any more; but ne'er fear,
   the punster will re-appear  ;-)

   And, by the way, I really haven't learned what rsync is - I guess I
could 'search' and learn  ;-)



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Felmon Davis  wrote:

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:
>
>rsync  ???
>>
>>   I think i are sinking fast ...
>>
>> sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
>>
>
> you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with
> 'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.
>
> 'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.
>
> sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths,
> matters.
>
> (and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)
>
> 'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I
> don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.
>
> Felmon Davis
>
> Advice is a dangerous gift; be cautious about giving and receiving it.
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Felmon Davis]

On Tue, 4 Dec 2012, anne-ology wrote:


  rsync  ???

  I think i are sinking fast ...

sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken


you are probably just joshing around but 'sync' has nothing to do with 
'sink'; one is germanic, the other is greek.


'syn'+'chronos' as in 'synchronize'.

sometimes the spelling of words, like the syntax of directory paths, 
matters.


(and 'syntax' has nothing to do with 'sin' or 'taxes'!)

'rsync' is a great utility; I assume it's available for Windows but I 
don't know but there's certainly equivalent stuff.


F.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Once you get to the "Roaming" folder it should be pretty easy to figure out.  
Most OpenSource programs will have their UserProfiles in there, just pick the 
one that is relevant = in this case the LibreOffice one.  From then on there is 
only about 1 folder in each folder until you get to the right place.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Tom  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 18:46
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> 
>       Are you saying that all I need do is copy that file to the newly
>named version? ... wow, you make it sound so simple;
>
>       THANK YOU!
>
>
>       It's an easy file to locate as long as I remember how to find it  ;-)
>            the 'user' and that '3' tend to leave my memory banks  ;-)
>               my mind tends to drop these essential elements for the
>non-mathematical;
>                    ah, so that may be why these 'glorified typewriters'
>dislike me so ... see there I go again  ;-)
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
>Hi :)
>> So, your user profile is in
>>
>> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user
>>
>> Hmmm, how to get there?  In Win7 can you open a "My Computer" folder and
>> then navigate from there?  I don't play around with 7 much but it seems
>> reasonably ok to me.
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* anne-ology 
>> *To:* Tom 
>> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:50
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>>
>>       WIN07
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Tom Davies 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi :)
>> > Sorry, which OS?  or at least which platform?  Windows or Gnu&Linux?  If
>> > Windows is it Vista or later or still on Xp?  (I'm still on Xp on at
>> least
>> > half the machines here).
>> > Regards from
>> > Tom :)
>> >
>> >
>> >  --
>> > *From:* anne-ology 
>> > *To:* rost52 
>> > *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
>> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:35
>> >
>> > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>>
>> >
>> >      Thanks;
>> >          the last time I went there, I found all this confusing jargon
>> > re. if you want this or that [without explaining what was what  ;-)  ]
>> >
>> >      Whenever I've clicked on that 'check for updates', nothing connects
>> > with anything  ;-(
>> >
>> >      I guess computers must not like me ...
>> >          well, I do call them 'glorified typewriters'  ;-)
>> >              and I do make fun of their re-defining terms  ;-)
>> >                BUT I give them a nice window to see the world, and let
>> > them have a nice sleep every night  ;-)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:36 AM, rost52  wrote:
>> >
>> > I think this it is not much of a problem.
>> > > Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
>> > >
>> > > or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
>> > >
>> > > Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
>> > > setting automatically. It;s a 5 min job. It takes more time to get the
>> > dust
>> > > from the old typewriter.
>> > >
>> > > Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
>> > >
>> > >>        ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or
>> > word
>> > >> files ... what could have happened ???
>> > >>
>> > >>        If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
>> > >> the
>> > >> problem persist?
>> > >>
>> > >>        AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
>> > >> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
>> > >>              ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to
>> upload
>> > >> the
>> > >> updated version [to which ???].
>> > >>
>> > >>        The more I lea

Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   rsync  ???

   I think i are sinking fast ...

sink  vb sinks, sinking, sank ; sunk, sunken
1. to descend or cause to descend, esp beneath the surface of a liquid or
soft substance
2. (intr) to appear to move down towards or descend below the horizon
3. (intr) to slope downwards; dip
4. (intr; often foll by in or into) to pass into or gradually enter a
specified lower state or condition to sink into apathy
5. to make or become lower in volume, pitch, etc.
6. to make or become lower in value, price, etc.
7. (intr) to become weaker in health, strength, etc.
8. to decline or cause to decline in moral value, worth, etc.
9. (intr) to seep or penetrate
10. (tr) to suppress or conceal he sank his worries in drink
11. (Engineering / Civil Engineering) (tr) to dig, cut, drill, bore, or
excavate (a hole, shaft, etc.)
12. (tr) to drive into the ground to sink a stake
13. (Economics, Accounting & Finance / Banking & Finance) (tr; usually foll
by in or into)
a.  to invest (money)
b.  to lose (money) in an unwise or unfortunate investment
14. (Economics, Accounting & Finance / Banking & Finance) (tr) to pay (a
debt)
15. (intr) to become hollow; cave in his cheeks had sunk during his illness
16. (Individual Sports & Recreations / Ball Games, other than specified)
(tr) to hit, throw, or propel (a ball) into a hole, basket, pocket, etc. he
sank a 15-foot putt
17. (tr) Brit informal to drink, esp quickly he sank three pints in half an
hour
sink or swim to take risks where the alternatives are loss and failure or
security and success
n
1. (Miscellaneous Technologies / Building) a fixed basin, esp in a kitchen,
made of stone, earthenware, metal, etc., used for washing
2. (Earth Sciences / Physical Geography) See sinkhole
3. (Miscellaneous Technologies / Building) another word for cesspool
4. a place of vice or corruption
5. (Engineering / Civil Engineering) an area of ground below that of the
surrounding land, where water collects
6. (Physics / General Physics) Physics a device or part of a system at
which energy is removed from the system a heat sink



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:59 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> I favour copy&paste or even better is drag&drop.  No need for anything
> fancy like rsync or anything.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>   --
> *From:* anne-ology 
> *To:* Tom 
> *Cc:* rost52 ; users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:48
>
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>
>   Thanks.
>
>   But HOW does one effectively restore the old to the new  ???
>   [that aspect boggles my mind]
>
>   Believe it or not - last night I cleaned out the caches then shut it
> down -
>   and this morning, all seems to be working well  ???
>
> *bog·gle  v. bog·gled, bog·gling, bog·gles
>
>
> 1. To hesitate as if in fear or doubt.
> 2. To shy away or be overcome with fright or astonishment
> 3. To act ineptly or inefficiently; bungle.
>
> 1. To cause to be overcome, as with fright or astonishment.
> 2. To botch; bungle.*
>
>
>   Maybe there's a ghost in this machine ... came in with the fog
> [London has nothing over this 4-day [so far] fog]  ;-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Tom Davies 
> wrote:
>
> Hi :)
> > Probably best to start by renaming your User Profile
> > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
> >
> > That tends to be the best and fastest fix for anything weird, especially
> > things that suddenly started behaving weirdly for no readily apparent
> > reason and which did work properly previously.  Also does sometimes fix
> odd
> > things in fresh new installs.
> >
> > In the old days or with older style programs you would "get back to
> > factory defaults" by doing a complete reinstall but that is not the case
> > with OpenSource software and some proprietary software seems to be
> learning
> > the trick too now.  So, nowadays when you do a reinstall programs tend to
> > pick-up on your old settings and keeps your galleries, templates,
> > Extensions and all the rest intact.  To get back to factory defaults you
> > just rename the folder that all those settings and configurations are in.
> > That is the User Profile.
> >
> > By renaming instead of deleting you keep all your old stuff but have just
> > effectively hidden it so that LO is forced to generate a new one.  Later
> > you can copy&paste chunks from your old profile into your new one to
> regain
> > some of your old stuff.  If weirdnesses have occurred then the most
> likely
> > cause is apparently 3rd party Extensions so you can probably get almost
> all
> > your old stuff back.
> >

Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   Are you saying that all I need do is copy that file to the newly
named version? ... wow, you make it sound so simple;

   THANK YOU!


   It's an easy file to locate as long as I remember how to find it  ;-)
the 'user' and that '3' tend to leave my memory banks  ;-)
   my mind tends to drop these essential elements for the
non-mathematical;
ah, so that may be why these 'glorified typewriters'
dislike me so ... see there I go again  ;-)



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:57 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> So, your user profile is in
>
> C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user
>
> Hmmm, how to get there?  In Win7 can you open a "My Computer" folder and
> then navigate from there?  I don't play around with 7 much but it seems
> reasonably ok to me.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>   --
> *From:* anne-ology 
> *To:* Tom 
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:50
>
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>
>   WIN07
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Tom Davies 
> wrote:
>
> Hi :)
> > Sorry, which OS?  or at least which platform?  Windows or Gnu&Linux?  If
> > Windows is it Vista or later or still on Xp?  (I'm still on Xp on at
> least
> > half the machines here).
> > Regards from
> > Tom :)
> >
> >
> >  ------
> > *From:* anne-ology 
> > *To:* rost52 
> > *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:35
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>
> >
> >  Thanks;
> >  the last time I went there, I found all this confusing jargon
> > re. if you want this or that [without explaining what was what  ;-)  ]
> >
> >  Whenever I've clicked on that 'check for updates', nothing connects
> > with anything  ;-(
> >
> >  I guess computers must not like me ...
> >  well, I do call them 'glorified typewriters'  ;-)
> >  and I do make fun of their re-defining terms  ;-)
> >BUT I give them a nice window to see the world, and let
> > them have a nice sleep every night  ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:36 AM, rost52  wrote:
> >
> > I think this it is not much of a problem.
> > > Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
> > >
> > > or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
> > >
> > > Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
> > > setting automatically. It;s a 5 min job. It takes more time to get the
> > dust
> > > from the old typewriter.
> > >
> > > Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
> > >
> > >>... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or
> > word
> > >> files ... what could have happened ???
> > >>
> > >>If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
> > >> the
> > >> problem persist?
> > >>
> > >>AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
> > >> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
> > >>  ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to
> upload
> > >> the
> > >> updated version [to which ???].
> > >>
> > >>The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
> > >>
> > >>Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning
> ...
> > >> or
> > >> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and
> > >> retrieve
> > >> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
> > >>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
I favour copy&paste or even better is drag&drop.  No need for anything fancy 
like rsync or anything.  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Tom  
>Cc: rost52 ; users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:48
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> 
>       Thanks.
>
>       But HOW does one effectively restore the old to the new  ???
>           [that aspect boggles my mind]
>
>       Believe it or not - last night I cleaned out the caches then shut it
>down -
>           and this morning, all seems to be working well  ???
>
>*bog·gle  v. bog·gled, bog·gling, bog·gles
>
>1. To hesitate as if in fear or doubt.
>2. To shy away or be overcome with fright or astonishment
>3. To act ineptly or inefficiently; bungle.
>
>1. To cause to be overcome, as with fright or astonishment.
>2. To botch; bungle.*
>
>       Maybe there's a ghost in this machine ... came in with the fog
>[London has nothing over this 4-day [so far] fog]  ;-)
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
>Hi :)
>> Probably best to start by renaming your User Profile
>> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
>>
>> That tends to be the best and fastest fix for anything weird, especially
>> things that suddenly started behaving weirdly for no readily apparent
>> reason and which did work properly previously.  Also does sometimes fix odd
>> things in fresh new installs.
>>
>> In the old days or with older style programs you would "get back to
>> factory defaults" by doing a complete reinstall but that is not the case
>> with OpenSource software and some proprietary software seems to be learning
>> the trick too now.  So, nowadays when you do a reinstall programs tend to
>> pick-up on your old settings and keeps your galleries, templates,
>> Extensions and all the rest intact.  To get back to factory defaults you
>> just rename the folder that all those settings and configurations are in.
>> That is the User Profile.
>>
>> By renaming instead of deleting you keep all your old stuff but have just
>> effectively hidden it so that LO is forced to generate a new one.  Later
>> you can copy&paste chunks from your old profile into your new one to regain
>> some of your old stuff.  If weirdnesses have occurred then the most likely
>> cause is apparently 3rd party Extensions so you can probably get almost all
>> your old stuff back.
>>
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > From: rost52 
>> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
>> >Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 9:36
>> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>> >
>> >I think this it is not much of a problem.
>> >Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
>> >
>> >or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
>> >
>> >Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
>> setting automatically. Its a
>> >5 min job. I takes more time to get the dust from the old typewriter.
>> >
>> >Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
>> >
>> >
>> >On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
>> >>         ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or
>> word
>> >> files ... what could have happened ???
>> >>
>> >>         If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
>> the
>> >> problem persist?
>> >>
>> >>         AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
>> >> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
>> >>              ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload
>> the
>> >> updated version [to which ???].
>> >>
>> >>         The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
>> >>
>> >>         Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning
>> ... or
>> >> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and
>> retrieve
>> >> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
>> >>
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
So, your user profile is in

C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\LibreOffice\3\user

Hmmm, how to get there?  In Win7 can you open a "My Computer" folder and then 
navigate from there?  I don't play around with 7 much but it seems reasonably 
ok to me.  
Regards from
Tom :)





>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: Tom  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:50
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> 
>       WIN07
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:
>
>Hi :)
>> Sorry, which OS?  or at least which platform?  Windows or Gnu&Linux?  If
>> Windows is it Vista or later or still on Xp?  (I'm still on Xp on at least
>> half the machines here).
>> Regards from
>> Tom :)
>>
>>
>>   --
>> *From:* anne-ology 
>> *To:* rost52 
>> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:35
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>>
>>       Thanks;
>>           the last time I went there, I found all this confusing jargon
>> re. if you want this or that [without explaining what was what  ;-)  ]
>>
>>       Whenever I've clicked on that 'check for updates', nothing connects
>> with anything  ;-(
>>
>>       I guess computers must not like me ...
>>           well, I do call them 'glorified typewriters'  ;-)
>>               and I do make fun of their re-defining terms  ;-)
>>                 BUT I give them a nice window to see the world, and let
>> them have a nice sleep every night  ;-)
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:36 AM, rost52  wrote:
>>
>> I think this it is not much of a problem.
>> > Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
>> >
>> > or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
>> >
>> > Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
>> > setting automatically. It;s a 5 min job. It takes more time to get the
>> dust
>> > from the old typewriter.
>> >
>> > Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
>> >
>> >>        ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or
>> word
>> >> files ... what could have happened ???
>> >>
>> >>        If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
>> >> the
>> >> problem persist?
>> >>
>> >>        AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
>> >> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
>> >>              ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload
>> >> the
>> >> updated version [to which ???].
>> >>
>> >>        The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
>> >>
>> >>        Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ...
>> >> or
>> >> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and
>> >> retrieve
>> >> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
>> >>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   WIN07



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> Sorry, which OS?  or at least which platform?  Windows or Gnu&Linux?  If
> Windows is it Vista or later or still on Xp?  (I'm still on Xp on at least
> half the machines here).
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>   --
> *From:* anne-ology 
> *To:* rost52 
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:35
>
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
>
>   Thanks;
>   the last time I went there, I found all this confusing jargon
> re. if you want this or that [without explaining what was what  ;-)  ]
>
>   Whenever I've clicked on that 'check for updates', nothing connects
> with anything  ;-(
>
>   I guess computers must not like me ...
>   well, I do call them 'glorified typewriters'  ;-)
>   and I do make fun of their re-defining terms  ;-)
> BUT I give them a nice window to see the world, and let
> them have a nice sleep every night  ;-)
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:36 AM, rost52  wrote:
>
> I think this it is not much of a problem.
> > Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
> >
> > or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
> >
> > Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
> > setting automatically. It;s a 5 min job. It takes more time to get the
> dust
> > from the old typewriter.
> >
> > Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
> >
> >>... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or
> word
> >> files ... what could have happened ???
> >>
> >>If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
> >> the
> >> problem persist?
> >>
> >>AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
> >> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
> >>  ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload
> >> the
> >> updated version [to which ???].
> >>
> >>The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
> >>
> >>Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ...
> >> or
> >> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and
> >> retrieve
> >> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
> >>
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   Thanks.

   But HOW does one effectively restore the old to the new  ???
   [that aspect boggles my mind]

   Believe it or not - last night I cleaned out the caches then shut it
down -
   and this morning, all seems to be working well  ???

*bog·gle  v. bog·gled, bog·gling, bog·gles

1. To hesitate as if in fear or doubt.
2. To shy away or be overcome with fright or astonishment
3. To act ineptly or inefficiently; bungle.

1. To cause to be overcome, as with fright or astonishment.
2. To botch; bungle.*

   Maybe there's a ghost in this machine ... came in with the fog
[London has nothing over this 4-day [so far] fog]  ;-)



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 4:10 AM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> Probably best to start by renaming your User Profile
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile
>
> That tends to be the best and fastest fix for anything weird, especially
> things that suddenly started behaving weirdly for no readily apparent
> reason and which did work properly previously.  Also does sometimes fix odd
> things in fresh new installs.
>
> In the old days or with older style programs you would "get back to
> factory defaults" by doing a complete reinstall but that is not the case
> with OpenSource software and some proprietary software seems to be learning
> the trick too now.  So, nowadays when you do a reinstall programs tend to
> pick-up on your old settings and keeps your galleries, templates,
> Extensions and all the rest intact.  To get back to factory defaults you
> just rename the folder that all those settings and configurations are in.
> That is the User Profile.
>
> By renaming instead of deleting you keep all your old stuff but have just
> effectively hidden it so that LO is forced to generate a new one.  Later
> you can copy&paste chunks from your old profile into your new one to regain
> some of your old stuff.  If weirdnesses have occurred then the most likely
> cause is apparently 3rd party Extensions so you can probably get almost all
> your old stuff back.
>
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>
> >
> > From: rost52 
> >To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> >Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 9:36
> >Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> >
> >I think this it is not much of a problem.
> >Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
> >
> >or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
> >
> >Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
> setting automatically. Its a
> >5 min job. I takes more time to get the dust from the old typewriter.
> >
> >Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
> >
> >
> >On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
> >> ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or
> word
> >> files ... what could have happened ???
> >>
> >> If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
> the
> >> problem persist?
> >>
> >> AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
> >> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
> >>  ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload
> the
> >> updated version [to which ???].
> >>
> >> The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
> >>
> >> Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning
> ... or
> >> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and
> retrieve
> >> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
> >>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Sorry, which OS?  or at least which platform?  Windows or Gnu&Linux?  If 
Windows is it Vista or later or still on Xp?  (I'm still on Xp on at least half 
the machines here).  
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: anne-ology 
>To: rost52  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 16:35
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> 
>       Thanks;
>           the last time I went there, I found all this confusing jargon
>re. if you want this or that [without explaining what was what  ;-)  ]
>
>       Whenever I've clicked on that 'check for updates', nothing connects
>with anything  ;-(
>
>       I guess computers must not like me ...
>           well, I do call them 'glorified typewriters'  ;-)
>              and I do make fun of their re-defining terms  ;-)
>                 BUT I give them a nice window to see the world, and let
>them have a nice sleep every night  ;-)
>
>
>
>On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:36 AM, rost52  wrote:
>
>I think this it is not much of a problem.
>> Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
>>
>> or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
>>
>> Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
>> setting automatically. It;s a 5 min job. It takes more time to get the dust
>> from the old typewriter.
>>
>> Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
>>
>>
>>
>> On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
>>
>>>         ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or word
>>> files ... what could have happened ???
>>>
>>>         If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
>>> the
>>> problem persist?
>>>
>>>         AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
>>> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
>>>              ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload
>>> the
>>> updated version [to which ???].
>>>
>>>         The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
>>>
>>>         Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ...
>>> or
>>> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and
>>> retrieve
>>> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   Thanks;
   the last time I went there, I found all this confusing jargon
re. if you want this or that [without explaining what was what  ;-)  ]

   Whenever I've clicked on that 'check for updates', nothing connects
with anything  ;-(

   I guess computers must not like me ...
   well, I do call them 'glorified typewriters'  ;-)
  and I do make fun of their re-defining terms  ;-)
 BUT I give them a nice window to see the world, and let
them have a nice sleep every night  ;-)



On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 3:36 AM, rost52  wrote:

I think this it is not much of a problem.
> Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
>
> or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
>
> Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous
> setting automatically. It;s a 5 min job. It takes more time to get the dust
> from the old typewriter.
>
> Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
>
>
>
> On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
>
>> ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or word
>> files ... what could have happened ???
>>
>> If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will
>> the
>> problem persist?
>>
>> AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
>> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
>>  ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload
>> the
>> updated version [to which ???].
>>
>> The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
>>
>> Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ...
>> or
>> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and
>> retrieve
>> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
>>
>>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
Probably best to start by renaming your User Profile
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

That tends to be the best and fastest fix for anything weird, especially things 
that suddenly started behaving weirdly for no readily apparent reason and which 
did work properly previously.  Also does sometimes fix odd things in fresh new 
installs.  


In the old days or with older style programs you would "get back to factory 
defaults" by doing a complete reinstall but that is not the case with 
OpenSource software and some proprietary software seems to be learning the 
trick too now.  So, nowadays when you do a reinstall programs tend to pick-up 
on your old settings and keeps your galleries, templates, Extensions and all 
the rest intact.  To get back to factory defaults you just rename the folder 
that all those settings and configurations are in.  That is the User Profile.  

By renaming instead of deleting you keep all your old stuff but have just 
effectively hidden it so that LO is forced to generate a new one.  Later you 
can copy&paste chunks from your old profile into your new one to regain some of 
your old stuff.  If weirdnesses have occured then the most likely cause is 
apparently 3rd party Extensions so you can probably get almost all your old 
stuff back.  

Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: rost52 
>To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Tuesday, 4 December 2012, 9:36
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...
> 
>I think this it is not much of a problem.
>Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.
>
>or go http://www.libreoffice.org/
>
>Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous setting 
>automatically. Its a 
>5 min job. I takes more time to get the dust from the old typewriter.
>
>Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4
>
>
>On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:
>>         ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or word
>> files ... what could have happened ???
>>
>>         If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will the
>> problem persist?
>>
>>         AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
>> without all the bits and pieces separated out;
>>              ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload the
>> updated version [to which ???].
>>
>>         The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)
>>
>>         Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ... or
>> is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and retrieve
>> the manual typewriter from the attic ...
>>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[rost52]

I think this it is not much of a problem.
Options / LibreOffice / OnlineUpdate / check now.

or go http://www.libreoffice.org/

Installation is very simple, just install, and LibO takes the previous setting automatically. Its a 
5 min job. I takes more time to get the dust from the old typewriter.


Today I would install 3.5.7.2 and next week or so upgrade to 3.6.4


On 2012-12-04 12:33, anne-ology wrote:

... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or word
files ... what could have happened ???

If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will the
problem persist?

AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
without all the bits and pieces separated out;
 ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload the
updated version [to which ???].

The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)

Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ... or
is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and retrieve
the manual typewriter from the attic ...




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[libreoffice-users] query re. LO crashing ...

[anne-ology]

   ... all was fine until today; LO no longer opens PDF files or word
files ... what could have happened ???

   If I up-date [from 3.4] will this clear up the problem? or will the
problem persist?

   AND where is the best place to download the program - updates -
without all the bits and pieces separated out;
ok, I'm looking for a simplified, non-geek place to upload the
updated version [to which ???].

   The more I learn of these computers, the stupider I feel  ;-)

   Anyone else in this boat ... anyone able to help the drowning ... or
is it time to pitch this 'glorified typewriter' out the window and retrieve
the manual typewriter from the attic ...

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[anne-ology]

   Thank you!

   I'll try again later; hopefully those wiki maintainers' changes will
have taken affect now  ;-)



On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 9:02 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Anne,
>
> ** **
>
> Oops, looks like the Wiki maintainers have removed the graphical CAPTCHA.
> The “math problem” performs the same function and allows screen reader
> assistive technologies to function (although easier to circumvent).
>
> ** **
>
> So, solve the “math problem” and complete the registration (if you’ve not
> already done so). Then navigate to the QA pages and  edit to put your name
> in the pool.
>
> ** **
>
> http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team
>
> ** **
>
> Unfortunately, one more hoop for you to complete will be to ALSO create an
> account on the Bugzilla system hosted by Freedesktop.org—I would strongly
> recommend you keep these two sets of credentials in sync so you don’t
> confuse yourself. 
>
> ** **
>
> Create the account here:
>
> ** **
>
> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/createaccount.cgi
>
> ** **
>
> The Document Foundation bugs and requests are all filed under the
> LibreOffice Category on the hosted service—but you’ll have access to all
> product and project Categories of the bug reporting/tracking system so it
> will be a little overwhelming.  Just pay attention and be methodical to
> make entries in the correct category. You’ll get help, but not a lot of
> hand holding.
>
> ** **
>
> And a big thank you for Volunteering.
>
> ** **
>
> Stuart
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, October 08, 2012 8:06 PM
> *To:* V Stuart Foote
>
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Subject:* Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
>
> ** **
>
>I have no problem with registering; but HOW when this CAPTCHA is no
> where to be found  ???
>
>
> 
>
> On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM, V Stuart Foote 
> wrote:
>
> Anne,
>
> Correctly completing the CAPTCHA ("Completely Automated Public Turing
> test to tell Computers and Humans Apart") is your key to establishing an
> account on the Wiki site maintained by the Document Foundation.
>
> We all have to pass that test to establish an account. And then, as we
> all do, you must authenticate with your personal account to make edits
> or add new content to the Wiki.
>
> Have a read of this Wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
> and you'll understand what the intent is.
>
> Stuart
>
>
>
> From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:18 PM
> To: Thomas
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
>
>
>Thanks for responding;
>I've been attempting to do just that -
>   it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt
> to set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question
> with a blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding
> this, I continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???
>
>HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before
> being able to access the LO portion of the site ???
>
>I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this
> supposed question/blank is located  ???
>
>Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first?
> ...
> is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page
> to send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?
>

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RE: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
+1
again.  
Regards from
Tom :)

--- On Tue, 9/10/12, V Stuart Foote  wrote:

From: V Stuart Foote 
Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
To: "anne-ology" , users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Tuesday, 9 October, 2012, 3:02

Anne,

 

Oops, looks like the Wiki maintainers have removed the graphical
CAPTCHA.  The "math problem" performs the same function and allows
screen reader assistive technologies to function (although easier to
circumvent).

 

So, solve the "math problem" and complete the registration (if you've
not already done so). Then navigate to the QA pages and  edit to put
your name in the pool.

 

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team

 

Unfortunately, one more hoop for you to complete will be to ALSO create
an account on the Bugzilla system hosted by Freedesktop.org-I would
strongly recommend you keep these two sets of credentials in sync so you
don't confuse yourself. 

 

Create the account here:

 

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/createaccount.cgi

 

The Document Foundation bugs and requests are all filed under the
LibreOffice Category on the hosted service-but you'll have access to all
product and project Categories of the bug reporting/tracking system so
it will be a little overwhelming.  Just pay attention and be methodical
to make entries in the correct category. You'll get help, but not a lot
of hand holding.

 

And a big thank you for Volunteering.

 

Stuart

 

 

From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 8:06 PM
To: V Stuart Foote
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

 

       I have no problem with registering; but HOW when this CAPTCHA is
no where to be found  ???




On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM, V Stuart Foote 
wrote:

Anne,

Correctly completing the CAPTCHA ("Completely Automated Public Turing
test to tell Computers and Humans Apart") is your key to establishing an
account on the Wiki site maintained by the Document Foundation.

We all have to pass that test to establish an account. And then, as we
all do, you must authenticate with your personal account to make edits
or add new content to the Wiki.

Have a read of this Wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
and you'll understand what the intent is.

Stuart



From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:18 PM
To: Thomas
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO


       Thanks for responding;
           I've been attempting to do just that -
              it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt
to set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question
with a blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding
this, I continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???

       HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before
being able to access the LO portion of the site ???

       I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this
supposed question/blank is located  ???

       Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first?
...
is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page
to send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?


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RE: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[V Stuart Foote]

Anne,

 

Oops, looks like the Wiki maintainers have removed the graphical
CAPTCHA.  The "math problem" performs the same function and allows
screen reader assistive technologies to function (although easier to
circumvent).

 

So, solve the "math problem" and complete the registration (if you've
not already done so). Then navigate to the QA pages and  edit to put
your name in the pool.

 

http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team

 

Unfortunately, one more hoop for you to complete will be to ALSO create
an account on the Bugzilla system hosted by Freedesktop.org-I would
strongly recommend you keep these two sets of credentials in sync so you
don't confuse yourself. 

 

Create the account here:

 

https://bugs.freedesktop.org/createaccount.cgi

 

The Document Foundation bugs and requests are all filed under the
LibreOffice Category on the hosted service-but you'll have access to all
product and project Categories of the bug reporting/tracking system so
it will be a little overwhelming.  Just pay attention and be methodical
to make entries in the correct category. You'll get help, but not a lot
of hand holding.

 

And a big thank you for Volunteering.

 

Stuart

 

 

From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 8:06 PM
To: V Stuart Foote
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

 

   I have no problem with registering; but HOW when this CAPTCHA is
no where to be found  ???




On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM, V Stuart Foote 
wrote:

Anne,

Correctly completing the CAPTCHA ("Completely Automated Public Turing
test to tell Computers and Humans Apart") is your key to establishing an
account on the Wiki site maintained by the Document Foundation.

We all have to pass that test to establish an account. And then, as we
all do, you must authenticate with your personal account to make edits
or add new content to the Wiki.

Have a read of this Wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
and you'll understand what the intent is.

Stuart



From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:18 PM
To: Thomas
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO


   Thanks for responding;
   I've been attempting to do just that -
  it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt
to set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question
with a blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding
this, I continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???

   HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before
being able to access the LO portion of the site ???

   I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this
supposed question/blank is located  ???

   Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first?
...
is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page
to send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?


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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[anne-ology]

   CAPTCHA  CAPTCHA  CAPTCHA
  wherefore art thou, CAPTCHA  ;-)

   with apologies to the bard  ;-)



On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:53 PM, Tom Davies  wrote:

Hi :)
> +1
> Ah ah, that was what this was about.  You aren't supposed to solve the
> "maths puzzle", just re-type it into the box just the way it appears.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
>   --
> *From:* V Stuart Foote 
> *To:* anne-ology 
> *Cc:* users@global.libreoffice.org
> *Sent:* Monday, 8 October 2012, 21:06
> *Subject:* RE: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
>
> Anne,
>
> Correctly completing the CAPTCHA ("Completely Automated Public Turing
> test to tell Computers and Humans Apart") is your key to establishing an
> account on the Wiki site maintained by the Document Foundation.
>
> We all have to pass that test to establish an account. And then, as we
> all do, you must authenticate with your personal account to make edits
> or add new content to the Wiki.
>
> Have a read of this Wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
> and you'll understand what the intent is.
>
> Stuart
>
>
> From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:18 PM
> To: Thomas
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
>
>
>   Thanks for responding;
>   I've been attempting to do just that -
>   it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt
> to set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question
> with a blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding
> this, I continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???
>
>   HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before
> being able to access the LO portion of the site ???
>
>   I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this
> supposed question/blank is located  ???
>
>   Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first?
> ...
> is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page
> to send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[anne-ology]

   I have no problem with registering; but HOW when this CAPTCHA is no
where to be found  ???



On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 3:06 PM, V Stuart Foote wrote:

Anne,
>
> Correctly completing the CAPTCHA ("Completely Automated Public Turing
> test to tell Computers and Humans Apart") is your key to establishing an
> account on the Wiki site maintained by the Document Foundation.
>
> We all have to pass that test to establish an account. And then, as we
> all do, you must authenticate with your personal account to make edits
> or add new content to the Wiki.
>
> Have a read of this Wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
> and you'll understand what the intent is.
>
> Stuart
>
>
> From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:18 PM
> To: Thomas
> Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
>
>
>Thanks for responding;
>I've been attempting to do just that -
>   it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt
> to set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question
> with a blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding
> this, I continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???
>
>HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before
> being able to access the LO portion of the site ???
>
>I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this
> supposed question/blank is located  ???
>
>Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first?
> ...
> is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page
> to send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
+1
Ahah, that was what this was about.  You aren't supposed to solve the "maths 
puzzle", just re-type it into the box just the way it appears.
Regards from
Tom :)  





>
> From: V Stuart Foote 
>To: anne-ology  
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
>Sent: Monday, 8 October 2012, 21:06
>Subject: RE: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
> 
>Anne,
>
>Correctly completing the CAPTCHA ("Completely Automated Public Turing
>test to tell Computers and Humans Apart") is your key to establishing an
>account on the Wiki site maintained by the Document Foundation.
>
>We all have to pass that test to establish an account. And then, as we
>all do, you must authenticate with your personal account to make edits
>or add new content to the Wiki.
>
>Have a read of this Wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
>and you'll understand what the intent is.
>
>Stuart
>
>-Original Message-
>From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] 
>Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:18 PM
>To: Thomas
>Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
>Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO
>
>
>       Thanks for responding;
>           I've been attempting to do just that -
>              it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt
>to set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question
>with a blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding
>this, I continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???
>
>       HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before
>being able to access the LO portion of the site ???
>
>       I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this
>supposed question/blank is located  ???
>
>       Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first?
>...
>is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page
>to send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[V Stuart Foote]

Anne,

Correctly completing the CAPTCHA ("Completely Automated Public Turing
test to tell Computers and Humans Apart") is your key to establishing an
account on the Wiki site maintained by the Document Foundation.

We all have to pass that test to establish an account. And then, as we
all do, you must authenticate with your personal account to make edits
or add new content to the Wiki.

Have a read of this Wikipedia site: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAPTCHA
and you'll understand what the intent is.

Stuart

-Original Message-
From: anne-ology [mailto:lagin...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 2:18 PM
To: Thomas
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO


   Thanks for responding;
   I've been attempting to do just that -
  it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt
to set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question
with a blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding
this, I continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???

   HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before
being able to access the LO portion of the site ???

   I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this
supposed question/blank is located  ???

   Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first?
...
is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page
to send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?






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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[anne-ology]

   Thanks for responding;
   I've been attempting to do just that -
  it states I must log-in to the wiki site ... so I attempt to
set-up an account ... each time it states there's some math question with a
blank to fill-in to prove I'm not some robot - but not finding this, I
continue on only to be sent back to the initial log-in page  ???

   HOW does one avoid having to sign-in to this wiki site before being
able to access the LO portion of the site ???

   I've looked all over the page, but cannot locate where this supposed
question/blank is located  ???

   Has no one else been required to log-in to the wiki site first? ...
is this something new they've added? ... is there some help/contact page to
send questions - and where they will respond with an actual answer?



On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:05 AM, Thomas Taylor  wrote:

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:43:34 -0500
> anne-ology  wrote:
>
> >Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
> > follow these steps -
> >but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
> > which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be
> > found?] Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating
> > this error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(
> >
> >After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times,
> > I wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
> >a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
> > received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.
> >
> >When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet
> > now I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response
> > was some joke;
> >I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
> > explanation to this;
> >   I happened to notice that some from this list, were
> > listed on that log-in page  ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: anne-ology 
> > Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
> > Subject: Re: Triaging
> > To: Joel Madero 
> >
> >
> >I've been attempting to sign in -
> >   clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
> > problems: the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
> > answering some math question -
> >  I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
> > located the problem nor the blank to fill in???
> >
> >I don't understand.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero 
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
> > > appreciate the help :)
> > >
> > > I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:
> > >
> > > 1. Go here,
> > >
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order
> ,
> > > and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily
> > > see who is volunteering
> > >
> > > 2. Go here,
> > >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1
> ,
> > > pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
> > > biggest project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with
> > > the backlog of about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and
> > > haven't been touched.
> > >
> > > I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your
> > > sheet gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll
> > > hopefully be doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free
> > > to start whenever you have the time. If you have any questions
> > > don't hesitate to email me or add me on gchat/skype/etc...
> > >
> > > Thanks again,
> > > Joel
> > >
> >
>
> Have you attempted to create an account per the first link? (Upper
> right hand corner)  And do you have cookies enabled?  This is under
> Firefox 15.0 on linux.  Where are you getting this "math" from?  There
> is no math involved and no mathematical answer required.
>
> I am just an end user without the knowledge required for QA work but
> had no trouble joining the list.  Just followed the directions!.
>
> Tom
>
> --
> “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the
> world remains and is immortal.”  Albert Pine
> --
> Tom Taylor - retired penguin
> AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2
> openSUSE 12.1x86_64openSUSE 12.2x86_64
> KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0  KDE 4.8.4, FF 13.0
> claws-mail 3.8.0
> registered linux user 263467
> linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net
>
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[Thomas Taylor]

On Thu, 4 Oct 2012 15:43:34 -0500
anne-ology  wrote:

>Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
> follow these steps -
>but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
> which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be
> found?] Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating
> this error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(
> 
>After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times,
> I wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
>a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
> received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.
> 
>When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet
> now I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response
> was some joke;
>I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
> explanation to this;
>   I happened to notice that some from this list, were
> listed on that log-in page  ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: anne-ology 
> Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
> Subject: Re: Triaging
> To: Joel Madero 
> 
> 
>I've been attempting to sign in -
>   clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various
> problems: the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
> answering some math question -
>  I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
> located the problem nor the blank to fill in???
> 
>I don't understand.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
> > appreciate the help :)
> >
> > I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:
> >
> > 1. Go here,
> > https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order,
> > and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily
> > see who is volunteering
> >
> > 2. Go here,
> > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1,
> > pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our
> > biggest project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with
> > the backlog of about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and
> > haven't been touched.
> >
> > I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your
> > sheet gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll
> > hopefully be doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free
> > to start whenever you have the time. If you have any questions
> > don't hesitate to email me or add me on gchat/skype/etc...
> >
> > Thanks again,
> > Joel
> >
> 

Have you attempted to create an account per the first link? (Upper
right hand corner)  And do you have cookies enabled?  This is under
Firefox 15.0 on linux.  Where are you getting this "math" from?  There
is no math involved and no mathematical answer required.

I am just an end user without the knowledge required for QA work but
had no trouble joining the list.  Just followed the directions!.

Tom

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AMD Phenom II x4 955 -- 4GB RAM -- 2x1.5TB sata2
openSUSE 12.1x86_64openSUSE 12.2x86_64
KDE 4.7.2, FF 7.0  KDE 4.8.4, FF 13.0
claws-mail 3.8.0
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[libreoffice-users] query re. volunteering w/ LO

[anne-ology]

   Back when I received this response [2nd below], I attempted to
follow these steps -
   but found that #1 is impossible; there is no 'math' problem
which is to be answered in order to log-in  [WHERE is this to be found?]
   Therefore, the log-in merely goes round and round, stating this
error, yet never explaining HOW to correct this error  ;-(

   After trying - and with the same results - half a dozen times, I
wrote this Joel back - [1st below]
   a few days later, he finally responded but ONLY to having
received my e-mail, rather than responding to HOW to log-in.

   When I initially offered to help, I did so in good faith, yet now
I'm thinking that either that initial letter and/or his response was some
joke;
   I'm asking this list for their thoughts and possibly an
explanation to this;
  I happened to notice that some from this list, were listed on
that log-in page  ;-)




From: anne-ology 
Date: Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: Triaging
To: Joel Madero 


   I've been attempting to sign in -
  clicking on the URL in #1 below only to uncover various problems:
  the latest and most consistent is probably due to not
answering some math question -
 I've clicked on each link on this page yet have not
located the problem nor the blank to fill in???

   I don't understand.




On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 12:50 PM, Joel Madero  wrote:

Hi! First thanks for responding to our call for volunteers, we really
> appreciate the help :)
>
> I was hoping that you could start by doing two things:
>
> 1. Go here,
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/QA_Team#QA_Team_volunteers_in_alphabetic_order,
> and add your name and what not to the list so that we can easily see who is
> volunteering
>
> 2. Go here,
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApS-XtOUGGH5dDIwaXN1YnNsM0h4RXFKdVhvb2RRb0E#gid=1,
> pick a sheet, and start triaging as much as possible. Right now our biggest
> project in QA is getting FDO under control, starting with the backlog of
> about 850 bugs that are older than 30 days and haven't been touched.
>
> I update that sheet somewhat regularly so at times you'll see your sheet
> gone and you'll have to reassign yourself another one. I'll hopefully be
> doing that this afternoon at some point but feel free to start whenever you
> have the time. If you have any questions don't hesitate to email me or add
> me on gchat/skype/etc...
>
> Thanks again,
> Joel
>

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[libreoffice-users] query re. fonts ...

[anne-ology]

   ... Is it possible or not to keep one font as default?
   in using Impress, each time I add text, I have to re-add the
font, et.al.

   Is there some way to make the font the default for each particular
file? ...
   I use differing fonts with each file, but only one per file.

   Has .5 taken care of this? - if so, I'll upgrade now.



On Sun, Jul 15, 2012 at 12:46 AM, Tom Davies wrote:

Hi :)
> I think the "Getting Started" guide, Chapter 3 "Using Stylers and
> Templates" deals with the issue
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications
>
> Also you can remove the formatting contained in copied text by using
> Ctrl Shift v
> instead of just
> Ctrl v
> or use paste-special to paste as plain text.
>
> Importing plain text from a .txt file is slightly different and doesn't
> appear to have changed so it still works afaik.
> Regards from
> Tom :)
>
>
> --- On Sat, 14/7/12, anne-ology  wrote:
>
> From: anne-ology 
> Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Duplication/replacement of text attributes
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> Date: Saturday, 14 July, 2012, 22:51
>
>One of the reasons I first download OO - now LO - was due to the
> ease of copying in the .txt documents;
>   [well, the Impress program impressed me over MSFT's poor one]
>
>Has this changed? ... if I were to determine how to update from .4
> to .5, would I too have the problems which are noted below  ;-(
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2012 at 3:56 AM, Andrew Brager  wrote:
>
> Greetings to you all.  I'm new to Libre Office.
> >
> > I'm wondering if there's a way to duplicate/replace attributes from one
> > paragraph to another in so that they are formatted identically.
> >
> > A frequent problem for me (typically when I copy & paste from elsewhere)
> > is that two sentences/paragraphs just won't line up properly (perhaps
> even
> > in a numbered list), I assume due to various formatting reasons including
> > different fonts, sizes, tabs, margins, alignment, and/or anything else
> that
> > might affect placement and display on the page.  They seem to be the same
> > in the original source as far as I can tell, but once copied and pasted
> to
> > a document in Libre some of the paragraphs seem to get out of wack.
> >
> > Trying to apply the exact same attributes to the paragraph or sentence
> > that's out of wack just doesn't seem to work - probably because I don't
> > know what attributes have been applied and/or simply don't know how to
> get
> > the same effect in a consistent way.
> >
> > Perhaps there is an "attribute tree" mode so that I can see what set of
> > attributes has been applied?  Either just plain text or perhaps through a
> > graphical representation maybe?  I guess I don't need to see it if I can
> > simply apply from one to another - sort of like the eye dropper from a
> > paint program copies the color from one spot so you can apply the same
> > color to another spot only here instead of color, it would be text
> > placement & display attributes.
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
>

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Re: [libreoffice-users] query for help ...

[Tom Davies]

Hi :)
You can "return to factory defaults" by renaming your "User Profile"
http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/UserProfile

Regards from
Tom :)  


--- On Fri, 13/7/12, anne-ology  wrote:

From: anne-ology 
Subject: [libreoffice-users] query for help ...
To: users+h...@global.libreoffice.org, users@global.libreoffice.org
Date: Friday, 13 July, 2012, 0:55

       ... please explain how to get this program to return to the default
-
               somehow the 'slide pane' in Impress shifted and won't return
to its locked position.
       This happened once before - when you were still OpenOffice ... at
that time, I was only able to fix it by deleting the program then
re-installing it;
           now, that does not work ... I've searched your site for help ...
I've deleted the program thrice now, then cleaned out the caches, then
re-installed the program only to find that somehow the re-install has
picked up the deleted program's problems.

       I'm sure there is some way to make this program go to default ...
I'm sure there is some way to contact someone ...
           but I'm becoming very frustrated.

       [I really liked having the e-mail newsletter when you were
OpenOffice; I've been hoping for something similar since you changed the
name; is this mailing list what I've been seeking?]

       Please help me restore this once great program to its usable
condition ... I want that 'slide pane' yet not where I have to continually
move it because the main window has slipped to the left where it's remains
partially hidden from view.

       Could someone please respond to this query with at least where I can
go for help re. this,
           with all sincerity, I'm eagerly awaiting your reply,




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Re: [libreoffice-users] query for help ...

[Dan]

anne-ology wrote:

... please explain how to get this program to return to the default
-
somehow the 'slide pane' in Impress shifted and won't return
to its locked position.
This happened once before - when you were still OpenOffice ... at
that time, I was only able to fix it by deleting the program then
re-installing it;
now, that does not work ... I've searched your site for help ...
I've deleted the program thrice now, then cleaned out the caches, then
re-installed the program only to find that somehow the re-install has
picked up the deleted program's problems.

I'm sure there is some way to make this program go to default ...
I'm sure there is some way to contact someone ...
but I'm becoming very frustrated.

[I really liked having the e-mail newsletter when you were
OpenOffice; I've been hoping for something similar since you changed the
name; is this mailing list what I've been seeking?]

Please help me restore this once great program to its usable
condition ... I want that 'slide pane' yet not where I have to continually
move it because the main window has slipped to the left where it's remains
partially hidden from view.

Could someone please respond to this query with at least where I can
go for help re. this,
with all sincerity, I'm eagerly awaiting your reply,




On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:46 PM,  wrote:

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 The way I get the slide pane to go to the left side of the Impress 
window:  while holding down the control key (Ctrl) while double clicking 
the slide pane banner. (Double click just to the right of the word Slides.

 You do the same thing to anchor any floating toolbar in AOO.

--Dan

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[libreoffice-users] query for help ...

[anne-ology]

   ... please explain how to get this program to return to the default
-
   somehow the 'slide pane' in Impress shifted and won't return
to its locked position.
   This happened once before - when you were still OpenOffice ... at
that time, I was only able to fix it by deleting the program then
re-installing it;
   now, that does not work ... I've searched your site for help ...
I've deleted the program thrice now, then cleaned out the caches, then
re-installed the program only to find that somehow the re-install has
picked up the deleted program's problems.

   I'm sure there is some way to make this program go to default ...
I'm sure there is some way to contact someone ...
   but I'm becoming very frustrated.

   [I really liked having the e-mail newsletter when you were
OpenOffice; I've been hoping for something similar since you changed the
name; is this mailing list what I've been seeking?]

   Please help me restore this once great program to its usable
condition ... I want that 'slide pane' yet not where I have to continually
move it because the main window has slipped to the left where it's remains
partially hidden from view.

   Could someone please respond to this query with at least where I can
go for help re. this,
   with all sincerity, I'm eagerly awaiting your reply,




On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 6:46 PM,  wrote:

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