Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box - update

2022-12-01 Thread V Stuart Foote

See tdf#108256 and its dupes...

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=108256

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box - update

2022-12-01 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

My apologies!
This was supposed to be a reply to the list!
Thomas

On 2022/12/01 15:15, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

On 2022/08/16 2:52, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Thomas,

and another try:
In the 'Find' field call the context menu. That is a right click or 
Context-menu key on the key board. Choose 'Special Character'. The 
Reverse Solidus is at code point U+5c. That is is group "Basic Latin".

Good afternoon from Japan
I have NOT been working on this problem for some time, but would like 
to give a little update.
* I DID switch to the English interface on one computer and got the 
"reverse solidus" - but it did not work at all.

(all I got were new problems caused by the English interface)
* I DID update another computer to 7.4.2.3. Trying to use regular 
expression to find line breaks, tabs etc. does not work. (at least I 
cannot make it work)
* If I use the addon "Alternative Find & Replace for Writer v1.4.2, I 
can enter \p and the addon finds those line breaks just fine!

- just found that \t actually finds tabs!
* In the regular Find & Replace box I tried to enter a reverse solidus 
via 'Special Character' = U+5c. That is in my Japanese Windows machine 
the \

and it does NOT work.
* I do not like Word, that is why I am using LibreOffice, but in my 
old Word 2007 (kept just in case ...) enter "find = ^p" and "replace = 
space":

works perfect, no questions asked.

I refuse to believe that having so much troube with LibreOffice is the 
way it is supposed to be.

And I am still hoping, there is IS a way to make it work.

Thomas




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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box - update

2022-11-30 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2022/08/16 2:52, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Thomas,

and another try:
In the 'Find' field call the context menu. That is a right click or 
Context-menu key on the key board. Choose 'Special Character'. The 
Reverse Solidus is at code point U+5c. That is is group "Basic Latin".

Good afternoon from Japan
I have NOT been working on this problem for some time, but would like to 
give a little update.
* I DID switch to the English interface on one computer and got the 
"reverse solidus" - but it did not work at all.

(all I got were new problems caused by the English interface)
* I DID update another computer to 7.4.2.3. Trying to use regular 
expression to find line breaks, tabs etc. does not work. (at least I 
cannot make it work)
* If I use the addon "Alternative Find & Replace for Writer v1.4.2, I 
can enter \p and the addon finds those line breaks just fine!

- just found that \t actually finds tabs!
* In the regular Find & Replace box I tried to enter a reverse solidus 
via 'Special Character' = U+5c. That is in my Japanese Windows machine the \

and it does NOT work.
* I do not like Word, that is why I am using LibreOffice, but in my old 
Word 2007 (kept just in case ...) enter "find = ^p" and "replace = space":

works perfect, no questions asked.

I refuse to believe that having so much troube with LibreOffice is the 
way it is supposed to be.

And I am still hoping, there is IS a way to make it work.

Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box - update

2022-11-30 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2022/08/16 2:52, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Thomas,

and another try:
In the 'Find' field call the context menu. That is a right click or 
Context-menu key on the key board. Choose 'Special Character'. The 
Reverse Solidus is at code point U+5c. That is is group "Basic Latin".

Good afternoon from Japan
I have NOT been working on this problem for some time, but would like to 
give a little update.
* I DID switch to the English interface on one computer and got the 
"reverse solidus" - but it did not work at all.

(all I got were new problems caused by the English interface)
* I DID update another computer to 7.4.2.3. Trying to use regular 
expression to find line breaks, tabs etc. does not work. (at least I 
cannot make it work)
* If I use the addon "Alternative Find & Replace for Writer v1.4.2, I 
can enter \p and the addon finds those line breaks just fine!

- just found that \t actually finds tabs!
* In the regular Find & Replace box I tried to enter a reverse solidus 
via 'Special Character' = U+5c. That is in my Japanese Windows machine 
the \

and it does NOT work.
* I do not like Word, that is why I am using LibreOffice, but in my old 
Word 2007 (kept just in case ...) enter "find = ^p" and "replace = space":

works perfect, no questions asked.

I refuse to believe that having so much troube with LibreOffice is the 
way it is supposed to be.

And I am still hoping, there is IS a way to make it work.

Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
On 15 Aug 2022 at 19:33, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

From:   Johnny Rosenberg 

Date sent:  Mon, 15 Aug 2022 19:33:15 +0200
Subject:Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not 
working in the find
    dialog box
To: LibreOffice Användare 


> Den mån 15 aug. 2022 kl 13:38 skrev Michael D. Setzer II <
> msetze...@gmail.com>:
> 
> > In Linux that are a number of option using standard
> > commands.
> >
> 
> I think he said he's on Windows, actually.
> 

Yes, but mentioned that there are ways to add both tr and 
sed to windows. I also wrote a little cpp program that 
does the same thing. Compile with linux compiler runs 
with test 9 record file 
linux run 
time ./weird weirdmsg

real0m0.003s
user0m0.001s
sys 0m0.001s
windows run
time ./weird.exe weirdmsg

real0m0.236s
user0m0.042s
sys 0m0.097s

compiled with a native windows cpp compiler and run 
with windows versus via wine might be close in time.

Said his file has 3,500 records so running with that would 
give a better comparison.


> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Johnny Rosenberg
> 
> 
> > First would be sed
> > sed 's/ \[/\t/g;s/\]/\t /g'  >
> > fix-in contains
> > test [ sjflsdkf] [ jflsjflsf ]
> >
> > output is:
> > test sjflsdkfjflsjflsf
> >
> > or
> >
> > sed 's/\] \[/\t/g;s/\[/\t/g;s/\]/\t/g'  > that would change ] [ to a single tab, and then single [ or
> > ] to \t.
> >
> > Another option would be tr command.
> > tr ']' '\t'  >
> > There are generally windows versions of both sed and tr,
> > but would have to look.
> >
> > Another option would be a simple cpp program to
> > preprocess data.
> >
> > If you send a real copy of data, could look at writing a
> > program. Another user had a file that had 8884 lines of
> > data for a month of data, and wrote a program to filter to
> > one line for each day, with the max values for 24 fields.
> >
> > Well good luck.
> >
> >
> > On 15 Aug 2022 at 16:04, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
> >
> > Date sent:  Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:04:44 +0900
> > To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> > From:   Thomas Blasejewicz 
> > Subject:[libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not
> > working in the find dialog box
> >
> > > Good afternoon from Japan
> > > Actually, I have asked about this in 2018 and a number of things were
> > > suggested.
> > > Unfortunately none did solve the problem.
> > > Problem:
> > > I have a long file with about 3,500 lines (each line = item) looking
> > like:
> > > HKES [] /(n) xx/
> > >
> > > where I would like to replace the "space[" and "]space" with tabs
> > > so that I can import the file into Calc.
> > >
> > > However, working with Japanese Windows 10, Japanese keyboard etc.
> > > NOTHING I tried so far
> > > allowed me to enter a \t (=> THIS is supposed to be a backslash) as a
> > > regular expression, telling
> > > the computer to replace the space[ with a tab.
> > >
> > > Question:
> > > Is there a trick telling the computer to replace any key sequence with a
> > > tab?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Thomas,

and another try:
In the 'Find' field call the context menu. That is a right click or 
Context-menu key on the key board. Choose 'Special Character'. The 
Reverse Solidus is at code point U+5c. That is is group "Basic Latin".


I don't know whether a Japanese LibreOffice has a shortcut for the 
'Special Character' dialog. In an English LibreOffice it would be 
'Ctrl+Shift+S'.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Thomas,

Thomas Blasejewicz schrieb am 15.08.2022 um 17:02:

On 2022/08/15 19:07, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Thomas,

additions:

Are you sure \ is not on your keyboard? If I switch to a Japanese 
keyboard layout, I see a \ as left most key in the lower row and as 
right most key in the middle row.


You can install an additional language in Windows and then you can 
switch the keyboard layout.


Kind regards
Regina


Good evening
and I thank everybody for their help.
Summary:
* Yes, my KB does have a backslash. But pressing it (no matter what KB 
layout it use) ALWAYS produces a \. They are supposed to be identical. > * I thought about inserting a backslash via symbols, but that alsow

produces a \; in the Find dialog it does not work.


You mean, your get a \ in a text document, but copy it to the 
'Find' or to the 'Replace' field does not work?



* Neither does copying the "tab portion" from any piece of text.


That cannot work. You need to use \t in the 'Replace' field.


* I do not use Linux, so those commands do not help me.
* This operation apparently does not work in a text editor either.
* I thought about replacing "space[" with something like "spacekk" (with 
or without the space). THAT does not work either.

* I just tried to find simply "[" (without the quotes).
* Unchecking "Regular expressions" DOES find the brackets, but then 
inserts "\t[" (where the \ is a backslash). But that is not what I want 
.. and not helpful.


Does this really have to be so difficult?


I have no problem with the Find dialog.

Please try to use the English UI of Windows. Outside of LibreOffice go 
to Settings > Time and Language > Language.
If you not have done it already install "English (United States)". 
Restart Windows.
Again in Settings > Time and Language > Language in the field "Windows 
display language" select "English (Unites States)". Restart Windows.

Now try again the Find dialog in LibreOffice.

To replace a space followed by [ with a tab you need, with 'Regular 
Expression' checked, in the 'Find' field (before the \ is a space):


 \u005b

and in the 'Replace' field
\t

Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Johnny Rosenberg
Den mån 15 aug. 2022 kl 13:38 skrev Michael D. Setzer II <
msetze...@gmail.com>:

> In Linux that are a number of option using standard
> commands.
>

I think he said he's on Windows, actually.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg


> First would be sed
> sed 's/ \[/\t/g;s/\]/\t /g' 
> fix-in contains
> test [ sjflsdkf] [ jflsjflsf ]
>
> output is:
> test sjflsdkfjflsjflsf
>
> or
>
> sed 's/\] \[/\t/g;s/\[/\t/g;s/\]/\t/g'  that would change ] [ to a single tab, and then single [ or
> ] to \t.
>
> Another option would be tr command.
> tr ']' '\t' 
> There are generally windows versions of both sed and tr,
> but would have to look.
>
> Another option would be a simple cpp program to
> preprocess data.
>
> If you send a real copy of data, could look at writing a
> program. Another user had a file that had 8884 lines of
> data for a month of data, and wrote a program to filter to
> one line for each day, with the max values for 24 fields.
>
> Well good luck.
>
>
> On 15 Aug 2022 at 16:04, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:
>
> Date sent:  Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:04:44 +0900
> To: users@global.libreoffice.org
> From:   Thomas Blasejewicz 
> Subject:[libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not
> working in the find dialog box
>
> > Good afternoon from Japan
> > Actually, I have asked about this in 2018 and a number of things were
> > suggested.
> > Unfortunately none did solve the problem.
> > Problem:
> > I have a long file with about 3,500 lines (each line = item) looking
> like:
> > HKES [] /(n) xx/
> >
> > where I would like to replace the "space[" and "]space" with tabs
> > so that I can import the file into Calc.
> >
> > However, working with Japanese Windows 10, Japanese keyboard etc.
> > NOTHING I tried so far
> > allowed me to enter a \t (=> THIS is supposed to be a backslash) as a
> > regular expression, telling
> > the computer to replace the space[ with a tab.
> >
> > Question:
> > Is there a trick telling the computer to replace any key sequence with a
> > tab?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> >
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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Nlomrb Gmail
This sounds like a problem with the Windows 10 Japanese keyboard.  Have you 
complained to Microsoft?  Perhaps they will fix the problem.  The best that 
this group could do is give you a workaround.   

Rose Byrne 

Sent from my new iPad

> On Aug 15, 2022, at 11:20 AM, Thomas Blasejewicz  wrote:
> 
> On 2022/08/15 19:07, Regina Henschel wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>> 
>> additions:
>> 
>> Are you sure \ is not on your keyboard? If I switch to a Japanese keyboard 
>> layout, I see a \ as left most key in the lower row and as right most key in 
>> the middle row.
>> 
>> You can install an additional language in Windows and then you can switch 
>> the keyboard layout.
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>> 
> Good evening
> and I thank everybody for their help.
> Summary:
> * Yes, my KB does have a backslash. But pressing it (no matter what KB layout 
> it use) ALWAYS produces a \. They are supposed to be identical.
> * I thought about inserting a backslash via symbols, but that alsow produces 
> a \; in the Find dialog it does not work.
> * Neither does copying the "tab portion" from any piece of text.
> * I do not use Linux, so those commands do not help me.
> * This operation apparently does not work in a text editor either.
> * I thought about replacing "space[" with something like "spacekk" (with or 
> without the space). THAT does not work either.
> * I just tried to find simply "[" (without the quotes).
> * Unchecking "Regular expressions" DOES find the brackets, but then inserts 
> "\t[" (where the \ is a backslash). But that is not what I want .. and not 
> helpful.
> 
> Does this really have to be so difficult?
> In the hope, there IS a way to accomplish this.
> Thank you.
> Thomas
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Thomas Blasejewicz

On 2022/08/15 19:07, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Thomas,

additions:

Are you sure \ is not on your keyboard? If I switch to a Japanese 
keyboard layout, I see a \ as left most key in the lower row and as 
right most key in the middle row.


You can install an additional language in Windows and then you can 
switch the keyboard layout.


Kind regards
Regina


Good evening
and I thank everybody for their help.
Summary:
* Yes, my KB does have a backslash. But pressing it (no matter what KB 
layout it use) ALWAYS produces a \. They are supposed to be identical.
* I thought about inserting a backslash via symbols, but that alsow 
produces a \; in the Find dialog it does not work.

* Neither does copying the "tab portion" from any piece of text.
* I do not use Linux, so those commands do not help me.
* This operation apparently does not work in a text editor either.
* I thought about replacing "space[" with something like "spacekk" (with 
or without the space). THAT does not work either.

* I just tried to find simply "[" (without the quotes).
* Unchecking "Regular expressions" DOES find the brackets, but then 
inserts "\t[" (where the \ is a backslash). But that is not what I want 
.. and not helpful.


Does this really have to be so difficult?
In the hope, there IS a way to accomplish this.
Thank you.
Thomas

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
Not sure if the utf-8 characters will go thru with this, but hopefully it does 
get 
thru in some fashion.

On 15 Aug 2022 at 16:04, Thomas Blasejewicz wrote:

Date sent:  Mon, 15 Aug 2022 16:04:44 +0900
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
From:   Thomas Blasejewicz 
Subject:[libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in 
the find 
dialog box

> Good afternoon from Japan
> Actually, I have asked about this in 2018 and a number of things were 
> suggested.
> Unfortunately none did solve the problem.
> Problem:
> I have a long file with about 3,500 lines (each line = item) looking like:
> HKES     [] /(n) xx/
> 
> where I would like to replace the "space[" and "]space" with tabs
> so that I can import the file into Calc.
> 
> However, working with Japanese Windows 10, Japanese keyboard etc. 
> NOTHING I tried so far
> allowed me to enter a \t (=> THIS is supposed to be a backslash) as a 
> regular expression, telling
> the computer to replace the space[ with a tab.
> 
> Question:
> Is there a trick telling the computer to replace any key sequence with a 
> tab?
> 
> Thank you.
> 

In looking at one line you gave. Have a program findnoascii to find utf-8 code 
and 
this is what I get.
line as I pulled from email (seems utf-8 character don't show with standard 
font).
HKES     [] /(n) xx/   

Results from my nofindascii 
 1  4 c2a0   [ ]
 1  6 c2a0   [ ]
 1  8 c2a0   [ ]
 1 11 e889af []
 1 14 e79fa5 []
 1 17 e889af []
 1 20 e883bd []
 1 25 e3828a []
 1 28 e38287 []
 1 31 e38186 []
 1 34 e381a1 []
 1 37 e3828a []
 1 40 e38287 []
 1 43 e38186 []
 1 46 e381ae []
 1 49 e38186 []

  3 c2a0   [ ]  NO-BREAK SPACE (U+00A0) 
  3 e38186 []   HIRAGANA LETTER U (U+3046) 
  1 e381a1 []   HIRAGANA LETTER TI (U+3061) 
  1 e381ae []   HIRAGANA LETTER NO (U+306E) 
  2 e38287 []   HIRAGANA LETTER SMALL YO (U+3087) 
  2 e3828a []   HIRAGANA LETTER RI (U+308A) 
  1 e79fa5 []   know, perceive, comprehend (U+77E5) 
  1 e883bd []   "to be able; can, permitted to; ability (U+80FD) "
  2 e889af []   good, virtuous, respectable (U+826F) 

using tr '[' '\t' weirdmsg.csv
get file that can be loaded in libreoffice weirdmsg.csv
Might want to change no-break spaces to a tab as well?

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Michael D. Setzer II
In Linux that are a number of option using standard 
commands.
First would be sed
sed 's/ \[/\t/g;s/\]/\t /g' 
Subject:[libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not 
working in the find dialog box

> Good afternoon from Japan
> Actually, I have asked about this in 2018 and a number of things were 
> suggested.
> Unfortunately none did solve the problem.
> Problem:
> I have a long file with about 3,500 lines (each line = item) looking like:
> HKES     [] /(n) xx/
> 
> where I would like to replace the "space[" and "]space" with tabs
> so that I can import the file into Calc.
> 
> However, working with Japanese Windows 10, Japanese keyboard etc. 
> NOTHING I tried so far
> allowed me to enter a \t (=> THIS is supposed to be a backslash) as a 
> regular expression, telling
> the computer to replace the space[ with a tab.
> 
> Question:
> Is there a trick telling the computer to replace any key sequence with a 
> tab?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Thomas,

additions:

Are you sure \ is not on your keyboard? If I switch to a Japanese 
keyboard layout, I see a \ as left most key in the lower row and as 
right most key in the middle row.


You can install an additional language in Windows and then you can 
switch the keyboard layout.


Kind regards
Regina

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Re: [libreoffice-users] "reverse solidus" not working in the find dialog box

2022-08-15 Thread Regina Henschel

Hi Thomas,

Thomas Blasejewicz schrieb am 15.08.2022 um 09:04:

Good afternoon from Japan
Actually, I have asked about this in 2018 and a number of things were 
suggested.

Unfortunately none did solve the problem.
Problem:
I have a long file with about 3,500 lines (each line = item) looking like:
HKES    良知良能 [りょうちりょうのう] /(n) xx/

where I would like to replace the "space[" and "]space" with tabs
so that I can import the file into Calc.

However, working with Japanese Windows 10, Japanese keyboard etc. 
NOTHING I tried so far
allowed me to enter a \t (=> THIS is supposed to be a backslash) as a 
regular expression, telling

the computer to replace the space[ with a tab.

Question:
Is there a trick telling the computer to replace any key sequence with a 
tab?


Because [ and ] are part of the syntax of a regular expression, you need 
to use \u005b and \u005d instead.
If the \ is not available on your keyboard, you can insert it in a text 
document in Writer by using the character map. It is at decimal 92. Then 
bring it to the dialog via copy


Kind regards
Regina



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