Re: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

2011-10-12 Thread e-letter
On 11/10/2011, Marc Bannelier marc.bannel...@geoconcept.com wrote:
 I would like to use the .fodt format in LibreOffice with SVN for a
 documentation system.

Nice to know someone else has realised how useful this function is! :)

 After a fresh installation, the format doesn't appear in the Save as..
 box in version 3.4.3 on Windows 7.

As has already been written, m$ users need to activate the
installation program to select the xslt filter.

In addition, see previous thread and bugs quoted:
http://www.mail-archive.com/users@global.libreoffice.org/msg11733.html

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

2011-10-12 Thread Marcello Romani

Il 11/10/2011 14:35, Marc Bannelier ha scritto:

I would like to use the .fodt format in LibreOffice with SVN for a
documentation system.
After a fresh installation, the format doesn't appear in the Save as..
box in version 3.4.3 on Windows 7.
Is it temporarely broken ? Do I need an extension ?
I've seen that the filter was rewritten in C++, I suppose it will be
maintained ?

Marc B



[slightly OT]
Thanks for mentioning this format. I always thought it would have been 
nice to have svn-versionable documents...


Pity it has problems with images embedded as OLE objects, but that'd be 
a different thread (and I'm talking about OOo here...)

[/OT]

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

2011-10-12 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Concerning the OT about binary representations (namely, OLE embedding) in the 
flat XML:

There is no prohibition in ODF to storing the OLE-embedding in-line using 
office:binary-data to carry the embedded OLE in a base64Binary 
representation as text. In the ODF 1.2 specification, this opportunity is 
explicitly called out.

The storage inflation is a tolerable 0.33 x the binary size in bytes, although 
it also takes longer to parse through the stream (something the Zip avoids by 
having the OLE in a separate binary Zip part and by using compression wherever 
possible).

It is simply a matter of implementing it.  It would be interesting to make 
some test documents that exercise that provision and see what happens.

 - Dennis

PS: There is one challenge.  There is currently no way to carry a MIME type 
with the draw:object-ole or its office:binary-data child, so it may be 
tricky to know whose serialization of the OLE embedding is being used.  It 
appears that Sun/OOo have their own, and Microsoft uses a different one.  It 
may require that recognition of the embedding format be distinguishable by 
sniffing the binary data.

-Original Message-
From: Marcello Romani [mailto:mrom...@ottotecnica.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 04:41
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on 
LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

Il 11/10/2011 14:35, Marc Bannelier ha scritto:
 I would like to use the .fodt format in LibreOffice with SVN for a
 documentation system.
 After a fresh installation, the format doesn't appear in the Save as..
 box in version 3.4.3 on Windows 7.
 Is it temporarely broken ? Do I need an extension ?
 I've seen that the filter was rewritten in C++, I suppose it will be
 maintained ?

 Marc B


[slightly OT]
Thanks for mentioning this format. I always thought it would have been
nice to have svn-versionable documents...

Pity it has problems with images embedded as OLE objects, but that'd be
a different thread (and I'm talking about OOo here...)
[/OT]

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

2011-10-12 Thread e-letter
On 12/10/2011, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:

 It is simply a matter of implementing it.  It would be interesting to make
 some test documents that exercise that provision and see what happens.


Observations so far (fodp containing png images, some of these images
converted from objects containing jpeg components) are that in
conjunction with subversion and opening on multiple machines, document
integrity is maintained.

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

2011-10-11 Thread planas
Marc

On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 14:35 +0200, Marc Bannelier wrote: 

 I would like to use the .fodt format in LibreOffice with SVN for a 
 documentation system.
 After a fresh installation, the format doesn't appear in the Save as.. 
 box in version 3.4.3 on Windows 7.
 Is it temporarely broken ? Do I need an extension ?
 I've seen that the filter was rewritten in C++, I suppose it will be 
 maintained ?
 
 Marc B
 

I checked LO 3.4.3 on Ubuntu/Pinguy 64 and under SAVE AS I have the
option for flat xml (.fodt) from Writer and (.fods) from Calc. I had to
scroll down a while.  I am not sure why you did not see it in Windows.

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RE: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

2011-10-11 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Cool!  With LO 3.4.3 on Vista I see it as OpenDocument Text (Flat XML) 
(.fodt) (*.fodt) between OpenOffice XML Text and Unified Office Format Text at 
the end of the Save as type: list.

With LO 3.3.2 on Windows 7, there is nothing below OpenOffice XML Text on the 
pull-down.  I can't upgrade my Win7 yet, so can't tell if this is an LO 
version difference or it is because the additional XSLT filter packs need to 
be installed on Win7 in this case.

 - Dennis

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Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 16:58
To: users@global.libreoffice.org
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Flat xml format (.fodt) broek/unsupported on 
LibreOffice writer 3.4.3, Windows 7 ?

Marc

On Tue, 2011-10-11 at 14:35 +0200, Marc Bannelier wrote:

 I would like to use the .fodt format in LibreOffice with SVN for a
 documentation system.
 After a fresh installation, the format doesn't appear in the Save as..
 box in version 3.4.3 on Windows 7.
 Is it temporarely broken ? Do I need an extension ?
 I've seen that the filter was rewritten in C++, I suppose it will be
 maintained ?

 Marc B


I checked LO 3.4.3 on Ubuntu/Pinguy 64 and under SAVE AS I have the
option for flat xml (.fodt) from Writer and (.fods) from Calc. I had to
scroll down a while.  I am not sure why you did not see it in Windows.

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jsloz...@gmail.com

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