Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Ok. Thanks for the extensive information on the three ways of exporting, Marc. Guess it kind of solve the question started by Tom. I could try to export some of the manuals, if you people decide it's worth it, but I can't devote too much time to it. Regards, Joaquín -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) +1 Thanks Marc :) Also many thanks to Joaquín and Virgil for experimenting and finding out how well the theories work out in practice. If anyone does have the time to take this forwards and create ePubs of the latest available versions of any of the guides in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Then that might be really helpful. I think the Docs Team would want to have a quick prood-read before getting them out there into ePub stores for as low price as reasonably possible and with profits going back into the community. There is no chance of getting paid for doing this work for the official guides just as almost all of us don't get paid for trying to help people with specific issues on this mailing list but it's all good experience and often interesting to learn about these sorts of things. Also interesting how it might take ages to do the first one but then gets faster and better quality each time. Personally i'd really like to see the Base handbook as an ePub if anyone has time to try that as the next experiment. Obviously the Getting Started Guide is always the most important to get out there first. Regards from Tom :) From: Joaquín Lameiro juacolame...@yahoo.es To: users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 9:44 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer Ok. Thanks for the extensive information on the three ways of exporting, Marc. Guess it kind of solve the question started by Tom. I could try to export some of the manuals, if you people decide it's worth it, but I can't devote too much time to it. Regards, Joaquín -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Hi. Right. I'll give it a more serious try. I shall begin with the Getting Start Gide for 4.0, then. Keep you informed on the progress. Regards, Joaquín Hi :) +1 Thanks Marc :) Also many thanks to Joaquín and Virgil for experimenting and finding out how well the theories work out in practice. If anyone does have the time to take this forwards and create ePubs of the latest available versions of any of the guides in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Then that might be really helpful. I think the Docs Team would want to have a quick prood-read before getting them out there into ePub stores for as low price as reasonably possible and with profits going back into the community. There is no chance of getting paid for doing this work for the official guides just as almost all of us don't get paid for trying to help people with specific issues on this mailing list but it's all good experience and often interesting to learn about these sorts of things. Also interesting how it might take ages to do the first one but then gets faster and better quality each time. Personally i'd really like to see the Base handbook as an ePub if anyone has time to try that as the next experiment. Obviously the Getting Started Guide is always the most important to get out there first. Regards from Tom :) Ok. Thanks for the extensive information on the three ways of exporting, Marc. Guess it kind of solve the question started by Tom. I could try to export some of the manuals, if you people decide it's worth it, but I can't devote too much time to it. Regards, Joaquín -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) That would be really great! Thanks Joaquín! :) If possible, please add your name to the list of contributors before making the ePub version. I think that means it will only appear in the ePub version but hopefully someone might add your name to the main version next time. Many thanks and regards from Tom :) From: Joaquín Lameiro juacolame...@yahoo.es To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Friday, 16 August 2013, 13:07 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer Hi. Right. I'll give it a more serious try. I shall begin with the Getting Start Guide for 4.0, then. Keep you informed on the progress. Regards, Joaquín Hi :) +1 Thanks Marc :) Also many thanks to Joaquín and Virgil for experimenting and finding out how well the theories work out in practice. If anyone does have the time to take this forwards and create ePubs of the latest available versions of any of the guides in https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Publications Then that might be really helpful. I think the Docs Team would want to have a quick prood-read before getting them out there into ePub stores for as low price as reasonably possible and with profits going back into the community. There is no chance of getting paid for doing this work for the official guides just as almost all of us don't get paid for trying to help people with specific issues on this mailing list but it's all good experience and often interesting to learn about these sorts of things. Also interesting how it might take ages to do the first one but then gets faster and better quality each time. Personally i'd really like to see the Base handbook as an ePub if anyone has time to try that as the next experiment. Obviously the Getting Started Guide is always the most important to get out there first. Regards from Tom :) Ok. Thanks for the extensive information on the three ways of exporting, Marc. Guess it kind of solve the question started by Tom. I could try to export some of the manuals, if you people decide it's worth it, but I can't devote too much time to it. Regards, Joaquín -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
as I am a proponent of wiki docs, I should point out that there are a number of great ways as well to convert wiki docs to epub and epub3 ;-) but, at what point are epubs of this type of value if we have effective caching browsers and ubiquitous internet -- but universal transparency is not going to be available any time soon as long as people go to horse races ;-) On 8/16/13 12:44 AM, Joaquín Lameiro wrote: Ok. Thanks for the extensive information on the three ways of exporting, Marc. Guess it kind of solve the question started by Tom. I could try to export some of the manuals, if you people decide it's worth it, but I can't devote too much time to it. Regards, Joaquín -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
No idea. It's true that epub is quite limited when it comes to style, but it is mostly used for electronic ink readers, which, by now, are black and white small devices designed to read books, in the classic meaning of the word: that is, text with some minimal format. Maybe you're right when you say that is not good enough, but it serves to a very specific purpose. What I fear is that it may not be appropriate for complex structured documents, like manuals, text-books, etc. that usually are built with a lot of frames. Then again, I'm going to try to export one of the LibO manuals and see what happens. Regards, Joaquín Joaquín Lameiro: Please name me any 3rd-party reader which supports HTML5 and CSS3 sufficiently enough to provide all the features one can expect from a book. That so-called standard is too expensive for independent implementation and cannot guarantee acceptable results. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Joaquin wrote: Then again, I'm going to try to export one of the LibO manuals and see what happens. Good luck. I just tried it and, as you allude, the manuals have much too complex formatting for my Kindle. The Writer2epub extension wouldn't even produce an epub file from the two manuals I tried. I don't blame the extension as I was simply trying to make it do something it was never intended to do. For an e-reader, keep the text simple, with a stream of words and letters and minimal formatting. Virgil -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Hi again. OK. I've been through the eLAIX extension and found it works quite well. I have successfully exported the first chapter of the Getting started with LO 4.0 guide (the one titled Introducing LibreOffice). Main problems I had were: - eLAIX doesn't like custom styles for headings, I had to change the headings to the standard values. I didn't gave them the properties the original document headings had (fonts, colour, etc.) but it could be easily done. It's probably useless, though, because most readers would ignore this settings. I think Virgil had problems with customized styles with the writer2epub extension too. - The first item on the lists would display different from the rest, because two different custom styles were used to create lists in this ODT: one for the first item and another for the rest of the list. Don't know why, but just giving standard list style to all solved the problem. - For some reason I don't understand, but may be something regarding frames, eLAIX failed to export the images embedded in the document. I solved this by extracting the Pictures folder from the ODT file (I used 7-zip) and then eliminating each image from the original document and inserting it again via the macro provided by eLAIX itself to insert pictures. Then, the images were properly exported. - eLAIX creates its own index, so I eliminated the ODT index. - When opening the epub file in my reader, I found a weird thing about the figure fields. These are auto-numeric fields used in the captions that follow images, like, let's say: Figure 1, LibreOffice starting window. The number here is introduced as a field (which is wise if one doesn't want to keep on updating the captions manually). Well, my reader marked these as links that linked to the beginning of the epub. This is not solved in my export. Rough solution, to eliminate the field and work the captions manually. So, my experience with eLAIX is that it would do a pretty good job, but it would take some time and effort. By the way, is there a method to make Writer select all the text with a specific style so then one can change the style of similar headings at a time? It will reduce a lot of work just to tell Write: take all the text styled as OOoHeader1 and change it into Header 1. Now, there is another much easier way to export ODT into EPUB, specially if they are well built, like is the case with the LO documentation: to pass them through the calibre ( http://calibre-ebook.com/ ) converter. I checked this with the full Getting Started Guide. It took to it quite an hour and a half in this laptop I'm using (which is not the most powerful one in the world) and it gave a reasonably good EPUB. Just two main problems: - It changes page with each new chapter or sub-chapter, so the epub has more pages than the ODT, and all the references in the original text (go to page x) make no sense, though the links will still link to the good place. Same thing for the numbers of page in the index. Maybe this can be fixed through calibre's configuration, I haven't tried that. - Some frames are rendered in a way that they don't fit in the reader's screen, so they remain partially illegible. Both these problems could be solved by editing the ODT prior to the calibre exportation, eliminating the numbers of page in the references and the index and making the frames smaller. Conclusion: eLAIX could do the job, is more flexible and works as a part of Writer. Calibre will do a more quick and less accurate work, and is third-party software, not related to LibreOffice. Still, if one just uses the exporting tools of eLAIX and calibre without any previous editing of the ODT files, calibre will come with a much better epub than eLAIX. But all of this means nothing if you don't check the epubs by yourselves. How can I share them? I'm not sure that attaching them to a mail to this list would be the appropriate way. I wait for your comments. Regards, Joaquín -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
save the original as docbook and use pandoc to convert to epub or epub3 and compare ;-) On 8/15/13 7:20 AM, Joaquín Lameiro wrote: Hi again. OK. I've been through the eLAIX extension and found it works quite well. I have successfully exported the first chapter of the Getting started with LO 4.0 guide (the one titled Introducing LibreOffice). Main problems I had were: - eLAIX doesn't like custom styles for headings, I had to change the headings to the standard values. I didn't gave them the properties the original document headings had (fonts, colour, etc.) but it could be easily done. It's probably useless, though, because most readers would ignore this settings. I think Virgil had problems with customized styles with the writer2epub extension too. - The first item on the lists would display different from the rest, because two different custom styles were used to create lists in this ODT: one for the first item and another for the rest of the list. Don't know why, but just giving standard list style to all solved the problem. - For some reason I don't understand, but may be something regarding frames, eLAIX failed to export the images embedded in the document. I solved this by extracting the Pictures folder from the ODT file (I used 7-zip) and then eliminating each image from the original document and inserting it again via the macro provided by eLAIX itself to insert pictures. Then, the images were properly exported. - eLAIX creates its own index, so I eliminated the ODT index. - When opening the epub file in my reader, I found a weird thing about the figure fields. These are auto-numeric fields used in the captions that follow images, like, let's say: Figure 1, LibreOffice starting window. The number here is introduced as a field (which is wise if one doesn't want to keep on updating the captions manually). Well, my reader marked these as links that linked to the beginning of the epub. This is not solved in my export. Rough solution, to eliminate the field and work the captions manually. So, my experience with eLAIX is that it would do a pretty good job, but it would take some time and effort. By the way, is there a method to make Writer select all the text with a specific style so then one can change the style of similar headings at a time? It will reduce a lot of work just to tell Write: take all the text styled as OOoHeader1 and change it into Header 1. Now, there is another much easier way to export ODT into EPUB, specially if they are well built, like is the case with the LO documentation: to pass them through the calibre ( http://calibre-ebook.com/ ) converter. I checked this with the full Getting Started Guide. It took to it quite an hour and a half in this laptop I'm using (which is not the most powerful one in the world) and it gave a reasonably good EPUB. Just two main problems: - It changes page with each new chapter or sub-chapter, so the epub has more pages than the ODT, and all the references in the original text (go to page x) make no sense, though the links will still link to the good place. Same thing for the numbers of page in the index. Maybe this can be fixed through calibre's configuration, I haven't tried that. - Some frames are rendered in a way that they don't fit in the reader's screen, so they remain partially illegible. Both these problems could be solved by editing the ODT prior to the calibre exportation, eliminating the numbers of page in the references and the index and making the frames smaller. Conclusion: eLAIX could do the job, is more flexible and works as a part of Writer. Calibre will do a more quick and less accurate work, and is third-party software, not related to LibreOffice. Still, if one just uses the exporting tools of eLAIX and calibre without any previous editing of the ODT files, calibre will come with a much better epub than eLAIX. But all of this means nothing if you don't check the epubs by yourselves. How can I share them? I'm not sure that attaching them to a mail to this list would be the appropriate way. I wait for your comments. Regards, Joaquín -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
using elaix you can do a global search and replace (easier I think with the alt replace ext.) of the headings used in a doc with the headings elaix employs. Took just a few minutes once you understand how to do that. HOWEVER you can always select to include the existing headings without the search and replace [and this worked as well, so no reheading was actually necessary :-) ] elaix added the larger images, which none of the other options handled well (there are two different styles of images in the GS4001-IntroducingLibreOffice.odt file, however, elaix also produce the tiny png files too large using pandoc download the odt file and save as a docbook which will produce an xml file now from command line run pandoc host:directory user$ pandoc -f docbook -t epub -s GS4001.xml -o gettingstarted.epub pandoc can also produce epub3 with mathml there will be some glitches here and there but it will likely present fewer issues than many other options for converting docs already formatted, such as the guides. I noticed that there were some issues with the different graphic files. using writer2xhtml actually, if anything, using writer2xhtml (http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/writer2xhtml) to export to epub is the simplest (though there has not been any recent work on the product) though images were an issue. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
http://idpf.org/epub On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: e-letter: ...maybe epub for electronic archives. EPUB is an Apple/Adobe proprietary format not supported beyond iF... devices, which is missing critical features needed for books. It's not an option. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) Does that mean it is an ISO standard? It's a bit unclear who international Digital Publishing Forum are. Are they widely known and accepted or are they just a branch of Adobe or Apple or someone? Regards from Tom :) From: Ginterak m...@interak.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 16:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer http://idpf.org/epub On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: e-letter: ...maybe epub for electronic archives. EPUB is an Apple/Adobe proprietary format not supported beyond iF... devices, which is missing critical features needed for books. It's not an option. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
It is an ISO standard (or at least in the way to be): http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=53255 Also, there's some useful information on Wikipedia. I didn't went to it thoroughly, though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB Maybe Urmas confused EPUB with the Digital Rights Management system (DRM) which is basically proprietary anticopy software, and is supported by EPUB (as a way to avoid piracy and, I guess, to control the market of books). But EPUB is open source, standardized and is the format used by most e-readers (by all, I will say, with the exception of Kindle, which of course has a proprietary file format). And there's no need to use DMR on it. De: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Para: Ginterak m...@interak.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Enviado: Miércoles 14 de agosto de 2013 17:47 Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Does that mean it is an ISO standard? It's a bit unclear who international Digital Publishing Forum are. Are they widely known and accepted or are they just a branch of Adobe or Apple or someone? Regards from Tom :) From: Ginterak m...@interak.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 16:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer http://idpf.org/epub On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: e-letter: ...maybe epub for electronic archives. EPUB is an Apple/Adobe proprietary format not supported beyond iF... devices, which is missing critical features needed for books. It's not an option. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
Hi :) Perhaps :) I think there are a lot of us who still haven't checked out these fancy new gizmos. I'm still calling LiveUsb a LiveCd and then having to correct myself. Regards from Tom :) From: Joaquín Lameiro juacolame...@yahoo.es To: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk; Ginterak m...@interak.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 18:20 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer It is an ISO standard (or at least in the way to be): http://www.iso.org/iso/home/store/catalogue_tc/catalogue_detail.htm?csnumber=53255 Also, there's some useful information on Wikipedia. I didn't went to it thoroughly, though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EPUB Maybe Urmas confused EPUB with the Digital Rights Management system (DRM) which is basically proprietary anticopy software, and is supported by EPUB (as a way to avoid piracy and, I guess, to control the market of books). But EPUB is open source, standardized and is the format used by most e-readers (by all, I will say, with the exception of Kindle, which of course has a proprietary file format). And there's no need to use DMR on it. De: Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk Para: Ginterak m...@interak.com; users@global.libreoffice.org users@global.libreoffice.org Enviado: Miércoles 14 de agosto de 2013 17:47 Asunto: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer Hi :) Does that mean it is an ISO standard? It's a bit unclear who international Digital Publishing Forum are. Are they widely known and accepted or are they just a branch of Adobe or Apple or someone? Regards from Tom :) From: Ginterak m...@interak.com To: users@global.libreoffice.org Sent: Wednesday, 14 August 2013, 16:27 Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer http://idpf.org/epub On Aug 14, 2013, at 4:33 AM, Urmas davian...@gmail.com wrote: e-letter: ...maybe epub for electronic archives. EPUB is an Apple/Adobe proprietary format not supported beyond iF... devices, which is missing critical features needed for books. It's not an option. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-users] Re: Book-writing with Writer
On 10/07/2013 5:20, Urmas wrote: Pablo Dotro: I am beginning a large writing project, that will most probably take the form of a self published, free ebook. please dowload the eLAIX extension, there is a manuel for how to start a ebook with LO And while I have created very long, complex documents before, I have never formatted them as a book. But I find that there is a gap between the techniques described there for working with templates, styles and master documents... and the actual craft needed to make them work. The tool that you use does not matter. Everything thay you write will be decomposed and virtually remade in the DTP program, most likely InDesign. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: users+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/users/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
