Re: [libreoffice-users] Special Character Hunting - Libre Writer

[Bruce Byfield]

On Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:28:09 -0400
Tim-L  wrote:

> On 04/04/2018 05:56 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > charles meyer schrieb am 04.04.2018 um 22:19:  
> >> WordPerfect has reveal codes which display the numbers for a
> >> special character so they're easy to find instead of scrolling
> >> down hundred of symbols in a chart.
> >>
> >> Ex. ►
> >>
> >> Will any version of Libre Writer do that, including LO 6?  
> >
> > Yes, it is implemented at least since 5.4. The command is "Toggle 
> > Unicode Notation" and it has the shortcut key Alt+X. It toggles the 
> > character left from the cursor to U+number and back.
> >
> > And in LO 6 a new special character dialog is implemented. It has a 
> > search field, where you can enter fragments of the Unicode name.
> >
> > Entering the code point directly in the dialog does not work 
> > correctly, but you can enter U+number in the text and toggle it. If 
> > you have at least one font on your system, that has a glyph for it, 
> > you will get it, at least via font replacement.
> >
> > If you only know the glyph, then you should use a tool, where you
> > can draw the glyph and get the character. Such is not implemented
> > in LO, but e.g. http://shapecatcher.com/ can help.
> >
> > Kind regards
> > Regina
> >  
> 
> If you do not remember the "U+number" code, this is a good place to
> start.
> 
> http://unicode.org/charts/
> 
> This is my default site to search for Unicode characters via. its
> place in the standard placement. There are several Unicode fonts that
> I have used, but each have their own set of which characters are
> included. Since I do not use many Unicode characters/glyphs, I have
> to tried find/replace for these characters very often.
> 
> There are several free Unicode fonts that have a large percent of the 
> Unicode character/glyph set. I tend look for good fonts every so
> often. I hope you get your needs met for this issue.

Thanks to the Harfbuzz font renderer added about LO 5.3 or early 5.4, a
lot of special characters like ligatures, small caps and nut fractions
should be added automatically if the font includes them.

You can also set up software keyboard locales to use advanced
typographical features.

https://lwn.net/Articles/741722/

You can also set up a software keyboard locale that uses international
characters, so you can type

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Bruce Byfield (on Pacific time) 604-421-7189
Writer of "Designing with LibreOffice"
www.designingwithlibreoffice.com

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Special Character Hunting - Libre Writer

[Tim-L]

On 04/04/2018 04:19 PM, charles meyer wrote:

WordPerfect has reveal codes which display the numbers for a special
character so they're easy to find instead of scrolling down hundred of
symbols in a chart.

Ex. ►

Will any version of Libre Writer do that, including LO 6?

Thanks,

Charles.


Charles,

Do you have a specific style of font in mind?  Or a specific font name?

I use both Arial Unicode and Code2000 for my first font choice, if I do 
not have a specific style of font needed for the document. I also have 
others for specific needs, but those are the ones I deal with.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Special Character Hunting - Libre Writer

[Tim-L]

On 04/04/2018 05:56 PM, Regina Henschel wrote:

Hi Charles,

charles meyer schrieb am 04.04.2018 um 22:19:

WordPerfect has reveal codes which display the numbers for a special
character so they're easy to find instead of scrolling down hundred of
symbols in a chart.

Ex. ►

Will any version of Libre Writer do that, including LO 6?


Yes, it is implemented at least since 5.4. The command is "Toggle 
Unicode Notation" and it has the shortcut key Alt+X. It toggles the 
character left from the cursor to U+number and back.


And in LO 6 a new special character dialog is implemented. It has a 
search field, where you can enter fragments of the Unicode name.


Entering the code point directly in the dialog does not work 
correctly, but you can enter U+number in the text and toggle it. If 
you have at least one font on your system, that has a glyph for it, 
you will get it, at least via font replacement.


If you only know the glyph, then you should use a tool, where you can 
draw the glyph and get the character. Such is not implemented in LO, 
but e.g. http://shapecatcher.com/ can help.


Kind regards
Regina



If you do not remember the "U+number" code, this is a good place to start.

http://unicode.org/charts/

This is my default site to search for Unicode characters via. its place 
in the standard placement. There are several Unicode fonts that I have 
used, but each have their own set of which characters are included. 
Since I do not use many Unicode characters/glyphs, I have to tried 
find/replace for these characters very often.


There are several free Unicode fonts that have a large percent of the 
Unicode character/glyph set. I tend look for good fonts every so often. 
I hope you get your needs met for this issue.




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Special Character Hunting - Libre Writer

[toki]

On 04/04/2018 09:24 PM, Johnny Rosenberg wrote:

> Oh no! Not the reveal codes’ flame war again, please! Search the archives

This isn't the standard "Reveal Codes" request.
So the rational for the usual flamewar isn't present.

jonathon

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Special Character Hunting - Libre Writer

[Regina Henschel]

Hi Charles,

charles meyer schrieb am 04.04.2018 um 22:19:

WordPerfect has reveal codes which display the numbers for a special
character so they're easy to find instead of scrolling down hundred of
symbols in a chart.

Ex. ►

Will any version of Libre Writer do that, including LO 6?


Yes, it is implemented at least since 5.4. The command is "Toggle 
Unicode Notation" and it has the shortcut key Alt+X. It toggles the 
character left from the cursor to U+number and back.


And in LO 6 a new special character dialog is implemented. It has a 
search field, where you can enter fragments of the Unicode name.


Entering the code point directly in the dialog does not work correctly, 
but you can enter U+number in the text and toggle it. If you have at 
least one font on your system, that has a glyph for it, you will get it, 
at least via font replacement.


If you only know the glyph, then you should use a tool, where you can 
draw the glyph and get the character. Such is not implemented in LO, but 
e.g. http://shapecatcher.com/ can help.


Kind regards
Regina




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Re: [libreoffice-users] Special Character Hunting - Libre Writer

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2018-04-04 22:19 GMT+02:00 charles meyer :

> WordPerfect has reveal codes which display the numbers for a special
> character so they're easy to find instead of scrolling down hundred of
> symbols in a chart.
>
> Ex. ►
>
> Will any version of Libre Writer do that, including LO 6?
>

Oh no! Not the reveal codes’ flame war again, please! Search the archives
for ”reveal codes” and you'll probably have enough to read for a few weeks…



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg



> Thanks,
>
> Charles.
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Special Character Hunting - Libre Writer

[Brian Barker]

At 16:19 04/04/2018 -0400, Charles Meyer wrote:
WordPerfect has reveal codes which display the numbers for a special 
character so they're easy to find instead of scrolling down hundred 
of symbols in a chart.


Surely this can happen only if you already have the character in your 
document? In that case it is a simple matter to copy it and paste it 
anywhere else you want it. If you need it often, you might consider 
typing a code for it and then using Find & Replace to substitute the 
required character. In any case, scrolling through the Special 
Characters chart can be inefficient, as the character you require may 
exist only in some fonts.



Ex. [solid right-arrow symbol]


It is usually fairy easy to discover Unicode code numbers by a simple 
web search. Searching for "right triangle unicode" throws up amongst 
the first few results:

o Unicode Character 'BLACK RIGHT-POINTING TRIANGLE' (U+25B6)
o Unicode Character 'BLACK RIGHT-POINTING SMALL TRIANGLE' (U+25B8)
o Geometric Shapes - HTML Unicode UTF-8
o Geometric Shapes - Wikipedia

Scrolling down to 25B6 in Special Characters is then a simple matter 
- and I can see at a glance that it is missing from the first font I try.


I trust this helps.

Brian Barker  



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