Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer -- SOLVED partially

2022-11-29 Thread RealNameTBA
said Michael H:

| However, I've had similar wrapping issues in LibreOffice 6.3 with
| material I generate automatically when I set hyphenation to OFF, then
| turn every space into a no-break space. I don't see how that could
| happen while 'typing' but I have seen the issue, and you fix it by
| allowing breakpoints. That is turn hyphenation back on, and put in
| normal spaces.

Thanks very much. I've pretty well figured out that the problem here was
when L.O. Writer decided to label paragraphs as being in Japanese (even
though they contained no Japanese kana or kanji characters and most of
them didn't even contain romaji). And if I manually return the paragraphs
to English (USA) the line breaks become sane once again.

What I have not figured out is a.) why this happened -- if someone were,
say, to insert an English word into a document of Japanese Kana, would
L.O. Writer decide the whole document is English? -- and b.) how to
prevent it happening again.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-28 Thread Michael H
There is no image attached.

However, I've had similar wrapping issues in LibreOffice 6.3 with material
I generate automatically when I set hyphenation to OFF, then turn every
space into a no-break space. I don't see how that could happen while
'typing' but I have seen the issue, and you fix it by allowing breakpoints.
That is turn hyphenation back on, and put in normal spaces.

I haven't played with 7.3 yet, but if they now have a style that includes
"no break" you either need to insert the wrapping yourself (shift-enter) or
turn it off if the paragraph is longer than a single line.


On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 5:46 PM RealNameTBA  wrote:

> Having poked at this issue for days and being no closer to a solution, I
> turn to those on this list. I am doing battle with a line-wrap problem
> that defies all attempts to correct it. It's this (as illustrated in the
> small attached screenshot fragment): at the end of a line the writing
> jumps to the next line, not hyphenating anything (which is fine) but just
> simply splitting words in the middle. It was not always thus.
>
> I can't help but think that at some point I must have accidentally clicked
> on some configuration option that caused this to happen, but that option
> is not apparent to me.
>
> If I save the file and open it in something else, the words are wrapped
> normally, leading me to think it's a view or display issue.
>
> Anybody know how I can fix this?
>
> I'm running 7.3.7.2 / LibreOffice Community atop the TDE desktop on Ubuntu
> 20.04. But the problem has been around for a while.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> RNtba
>
>
>
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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-28 Thread RealNameTBA
The more I poke around, it seems as if the issue is related to this:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=1035

Which is labeled as fixed, but what to do to make it work isn't specified.
I need to figure out where to force it to "English (USA)" everywhere -- as
I look, the offending documents are all shown as being in Japanese, even
though they aren't. I occasionally paste in a Japanese character or word,
though this does not seem necessary to trigger the change to Japanese --
it sometimes happens in documents that have nothing to do with Japanese.
And never have I specifically told Writer I was doing Japanese.

So, is there a place where I can tell it not to do me this particular
favor?

TIA.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-28 Thread RealNameTBA
said John Kaufmann:
| On 2022-11-27 18:45, RealNameTBA wrote:
| > ... [The problem is] this (as illustrated in the small attached
| > screenshot fragment): ...
|
| The first thing to be noted is that by now you are aware that the
attachment did not make it to this list. Sorry, that's just the state of
things, so it's necessary to be as descriptive as possible. To that end:
| > ... at the end of a line the writing jumps to the next line, not
| > hyphenating anything (which is fine) but just simply splitting words
| > in the middle. ...
|
| A little more descriptive: Is the splitting done such that the right
| ends of the line are aligned (or would be aligned with a monospace
| font), as if to put the same number of characters in each line?

No, it's not justified. But where a line runs out and the whole word jumps
to the next line, here it breaks in the middle of the word, no hyphen (and
I have hyphenation turned off) leaving as little as a single letter before
going to the next line. I do notice now that the offending documents seem
to believe they're Japanese, which they're not.

In the screenshot paragraph I sent, the word "what" is divided at
w, "surrender" at surre, "brave" at bra, "involuntarily" at involuntaril
(with only the y bumped to the next line), "there" at th, and "story" at
st. Very weird. Is there a way to assure that the application does not
take it upon itself to change countries?

| Saving the file as .ODT?  If not, in what format?  In what did you open
| it, that presented properly?

Created in LibreOffice Writer and saved as .doc. Opens and siaplays fine in
TextMaker, AbiWord, and Calligra, no issues.

Thanks for your help.



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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-28 Thread Dave Howorth
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 02:08:04 -0500
John Kaufmann  wrote:

> On 2022-11-27 18:45, RealNameTBA wrote:
> > ... [The problem is] this (as illustrated in the small attached
> > screenshot fragment): ...  
> The first thing to be noted is that by now you are aware that the
> attachment did not make it to this list. Sorry, that's just the state
> of things, so it's necessary to be as descriptive as possible. To
> that end:

Or paste the image online somewhere. e.g. pastebin

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Re: [libreoffice-users] Weird line-wrap problem in Writer

2022-11-27 Thread John Kaufmann

On 2022-11-27 18:45, RealNameTBA wrote:

... [The problem is] this (as illustrated in the small attached
screenshot fragment): ...

The first thing to be noted is that by now you are aware that the attachment 
did not make it to this list. Sorry, that's just the state of things, so it's 
necessary to be as descriptive as possible. To that end:


... at the end of a line the writing jumps to the next line, not
hyphenating anything (which is fine) but just simply splitting words
in the middle. ...

A little more descriptive: Is the splitting done such that the right ends of 
the line are aligned (or would be aligned with a monospace font), as if to put 
the same number of characters in each line?


... If I save the file and open it in something else, the words are
wrapped normally, ...


Saving the file as .ODT?  If not, in what format?  In what did you open it, 
that presented properly?

Kind regards,
John

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