Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not paragraph

2013-05-14 Thread Kevin O'Brien

On 5/14/2013 4:32 AM, 胡小柯 wrote:

Hi,
I want to set the outline level of the selected words same as title1
style, for example:

Abstract: LibreOffice is a wonderful office suit as free software. It
has been widely used. balabala

As you can see above, Abstract is in the same paragraph as the
following sentences. I want to set Abstract as title1, not the whole
paragraph.
If I simply apply title1 style, then the paragraph is seen in the
table of contents, which is not what I want. I could not just select
Abstract, and apply the title1 style too. It doesn't work, but it
works in MSoffice. So, what should I do ? Any suggestion is
appreciated.

I think you are going about it wrong. Paragraph styles are applied to 
paragraph-level objects, which can be actual paragraphs, headings, list 
items, etc. And if you turn on the non-printing characters like 
paragraph marks you can see each time you create a paragraph-level 
object because there will be a paragraph mark at the end. So if you are 
trying to apply a paragraph style, LibreOffice is correctly applying it 
to the whole paragraph-level object.


If you want to apply a different style to a portion of a paragraph-level 
object you want to use a Character style. In the Styles and Formatting 
window that is the second icon, right next to Paragraph styles. You can 
define that any way you want and apply it to just a letter, a few 
letters, a word, or a few words.


Regards,

-- Kevin B. O'Brien zwil...@zwilnik.com A damsel with a dulcimer in a 
vision once I saw.


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Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not paragraph

2013-05-14 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 14/05/2013 at 10:32, 胡小柯 hot123tea...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I simply apply title1 style, then the paragraph is seen in the
 table of contents, which is not what I want. I could not just select
 Abstract, and apply the title1 style too. It doesn't work, but it
 works in MSoffice. So, what should I do ? Any suggestion is
 appreciated.

MS Office Word has mixed styles, which are styles that behave differently 
whether they were applied to paragraph or characters. LibreOffice does not have 
that function. This is one of few areas where MS Word is actually better than 
LO Writer.

In LO, you have paragraph styles and character styles. On your part of 
sentence, you must apply character-level styles. There is no way to 
automatically show these words in table of contents.
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Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not paragraph

2013-05-14 Thread Mirosław Zalewski
On 14/05/2013 at 18:27, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I'm not sure it does make MSO better.

I didn't say it makes MSO better.
I said it is one of few areas where MSO Word is better than LO Writer. One 
must remember that there are other areas as well. In some of these, LO Writer 
is better than MSO Word. In other, they go head-to-head.

Apart from Word/Writer, there are also PowerPoint/Impress, Excel/Calc, 
Visio/Draw and Access/Base. I did not say a single word about any of these and 
I don't feel like going into details there.

 In MSO you suddenly get different languages (EN; Uk/GB suddenly switches
 back to US) so spell-checkers are unreliable so they get ignored.  Bullet
 sizes change.  Numbered lists lose count, either doubled-up numbers or
 missing a few (or both).

There are some quirks that one must know and remember (in MSO this is mainly 
printer setting and Default.docm template). If you get to know them, MSO is 
quite predictable.

Of course there are bugs that might happen. I had few times encountered 
situation where LO Writer has deleted all my changes applied to paragraphs and 
restored to default template styles. Some strange bug, nothing more.
But someone less favorable might say that LO is hopeless piece of turd, as it 
suddenly changes paragraphs look.
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Mirosław Zalewski

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Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not paragraph

2013-05-14 Thread Steve Edmonds


On 2013-05-15 04:14, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:

On 14/05/2013 at 10:32, 胡小柯 hot123tea...@gmail.com wrote:


If I simply apply title1 style, then the paragraph is seen in the
table of contents, which is not what I want. I could not just select
Abstract, and apply the title1 style too. It doesn't work, but it
works in MSoffice. So, what should I do ? Any suggestion is
appreciated.

MS Office Word has mixed styles, which are styles that behave differently
whether they were applied to paragraph or characters. LibreOffice does not have
that function. This is one of few areas where MS Word is actually better than
LO Writer.

In LO, you have paragraph styles and character styles. On your part of
sentence, you must apply character-level styles. There is no way to
automatically show these words in table of contents.
So if we had a non-breaking paragraph mark in LO it would function the 
same as MSO, allowing different paragraph styles in the same line of text.

Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not paragraph

2013-05-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Hmmm, that sounds like something a bug-report/feature request could address 
fairly easily.  The coding for it might be a nightmare but getting the request 
in might be fairly easy.  There might even be one already that perhaps has 
unanswered questions (such as, would people really find it useful)
Regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Steve Edmonds steve.edmo...@ptglobal.com
To: Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl 
Cc: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013, 18:42
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not 
paragraph
 


On 2013-05-15 04:14, Mirosław Zalewski wrote:
 On 14/05/2013 at 10:32, 胡小柯 hot123tea...@gmail.com wrote:

 If I simply apply title1 style, then the paragraph is seen in the
 table of contents, which is not what I want. I could not just select
 Abstract, and apply the title1 style too. It doesn't work, but it
 works in MSoffice. So, what should I do ? Any suggestion is
 appreciated.
 MS Office Word has mixed styles, which are styles that behave differently
 whether they were applied to paragraph or characters. LibreOffice does not 
 have
 that function. This is one of few areas where MS Word is actually better than
 LO Writer.

 In LO, you have paragraph styles and character styles. On your part of
 sentence, you must apply character-level styles. There is no way to
 automatically show these words in table of contents.
So if we had a non-breaking paragraph mark in LO it would function the 
same as MSO, allowing different paragraph styles in the same line of text.
Steve


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Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not paragraph

2013-05-14 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :)
Sorry, i was a tad too defensive there!  I know you are NOT an MS fanboi.  Far 
from it.  It is good to see an objective viewpoint occasionally and i am sorry 
i jumped on it
Apols and regards from 
Tom :)  






 From: Mirosław Zalewski mini...@poczta.onet.pl
To: users@global.libreoffice.org 
Sent: Tuesday, 14 May 2013, 17:53
Subject: Re: [libreoffice-users] title1 style used for selected words, not 
paragraph
 

On 14/05/2013 at 18:27, Tom Davies tomdavie...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 I'm not sure it does make MSO better.

I didn't say it makes MSO better.
I said it is one of few areas where MSO Word is better than LO Writer. One 
must remember that there are other areas as well. In some of these, LO Writer 
is better than MSO Word. In other, they go head-to-head.

Apart from Word/Writer, there are also PowerPoint/Impress, Excel/Calc, 
Visio/Draw and Access/Base. I did not say a single word about any of these and 
I don't feel like going into details there.

 In MSO you suddenly get different languages (EN; Uk/GB suddenly switches
 back to US) so spell-checkers are unreliable so they get ignored.  Bullet
 sizes change.  Numbered lists lose count, either doubled-up numbers or
 missing a few (or both).

There are some quirks that one must know and remember (in MSO this is mainly 
printer setting and Default.docm template). If you get to know them, MSO is 
quite predictable.

Of course there are bugs that might happen. I had few times encountered 
situation where LO Writer has deleted all my changes applied to paragraphs and 
restored to default template styles. Some strange bug, nothing more.
But someone less favorable might say that LO is hopeless piece of turd, as it 
suddenly changes paragraphs look.
-- 
Best regards
Mirosław Zalewski

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