Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

Malformed ascii art saying "Don't feed the trolls" IE: Can't attack the message, attack the man. Because White Men Programmers simply do not know what they do not know and take proper, correct, legal analysis from a license attorney dealing with a relevant issue as "trolling". Here's a

Re: F25 completly froze, howto get pre-crash error messages?

On Thu, 3 Aug 2017 12:39:11 +0200 Frédéric Bron wrote: > My F25 KDE Plasma completly froze. I even could not do Alt-SysReq > REISUB. I had to turn it off. > Is there a way to see if I can get some messages that would help me to > understand what happened? If you are using nvidia graphics and the

F25 completly froze, howto get pre-crash error messages?

My F25 KDE Plasma completly froze. I even could not do Alt-SysReq REISUB. I had to turn it off. Is there a way to see if I can get some messages that would help me to understand what happened? Frédéric ___ users mailing list --

Re: 686 w/o 64: Whence?

What file did you actually download? There are both 32bit and 64bit images available... https://getfedora.org/en/workstation/download/ Thanks, Richard ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On 08/03/2017 05:22 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Sherman Grunewagen > wrote: After updating my F25 installation (which included installing kernel-10-11-12-200) I can no longer boot X (w/ startx). rpm -qa |

686 w/o 64: Whence?

I downloaded F26 and tried to install it to an old T42 Thinkpad (which currently has F22; I haven't been using it). It says it can't even boot, but needs 686 architecture withOUT 64-bit. So I went back to getfedora.org, and started looking-&-mousing around. (I want Gnome2 with

Re: 686 w/o 64: Whence?

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 03:08:39PM +, Beartooth wrote: > > I downloaded F26 and tried to install it to an old T42 Thinkpad > (which currently has F22; I haven't been using it). It says it can't even > boot, but needs 686 architecture withOUT 64-bit. > > So I went back to

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/03/2017 08:59 AM, AV wrote: > Should I consider this a bug or is something else going on > that I am not aware of? In what way are they not working? Your message is akin to talking to a mechanic and saying "My car doesn't work." Pretty much useless info. F26, XFCE, fully updated:

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: > On 08/03/2017 05:22 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Sherman Grunewagen > > wrote: >> >> After updating my F25 installation (which

Re: 686 w/o 64: Whence?

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 11:42:32AM -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > > So I went back to getfedora.org, and started looking-&-mousing > > around. (I want Gnome2 with Mate, or if not that, with Xfce.) Is it even > > there? > https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html > A 32-bit

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 05:59:45PM +0200, AV wrote: > Should I consider this a bug or is something else going on > that I am not aware of? In what way are they not working? -- Matthew Miller Fedora Project Leader ___ users

'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

Should I consider this a bug or is something else going on that I am not aware of? AV ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

I saw something similar to this in Arch Linux before I switched to Fedora. It happened shortly after the switch to systemd and persisted on my systems until at least the beginning of this year. I was able to see who was logged in by running "loginctl". Does that work for you? Robert M.

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

Ok, for the same nvidia module and kernel version for me... Dependencies resolved. Package Arch Version Repository Size

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

___ Dng mailing list d...@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng It looks like some

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On 08/03/2017 08:33 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Sherman Grunewagen > wrote: On 08/03/2017 05:22 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Sherman Grunewagen

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/03/2017 10:04 AM, AV wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 09:33 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > >> On 08/03/2017 08:59 AM, AV wrote: >>> Should I consider this a bug or is something else going on >>> that I am not aware of? >> >> In what way are they not working? > > In the obvious way, not

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

WTF On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 1:25 AM, wrote: > Malformed ascii art saying "Don't feed the trolls" > > IE: Can't attack the message, attack the man. > > Because White Men Programmers simply do not know what they do not know and > take proper, correct, legal

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 09:33 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/03/2017 08:59 AM, AV wrote: > > Should I consider this a bug or is something else going on > > that I am not aware of? > > In what way are they not working? In the obvious way, not working as expected: [ol@lo ~]$ who [ol@lo ~]$

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:09 PM, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: I saw something similar to this in Arch Linux before I switched to Fedora. It happened shortly after the switch to systemd and persisted on my systems until at least the beginning of this year. I was

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On 08/03/2017 10:48 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: Ok, for the same nvidia module and kernel version for me... Dependencies resolved. Package Arch Version RepositorySize

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

On 08/03/2017 11:28 AM, Tom H wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Wright wrote: Dng mailing list d...@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng It looks like some charming so and so signed up

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Wright wrote: >> >> Dng mailing list >> d...@lists.dyne.org >> https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng > > It looks like some charming so and so signed up the fedora users list > to

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/03/2017 11:09 AM, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: > I saw something similar to this in Arch Linux before I switched to Fedora. > It happened shortly after the switch to systemd and persisted on my systems > until at least the beginning of this year. I was able to see who was logged > in by

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Fri, Aug 04, 2017 at 03:33:19AM +, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: > > > >though loginctl does). Login sessions via ssh, either > >from remote hosts or to localhost are registered. > > Does "who -a" show them? I have a vague recollection I looked into that when > I first encountered this.

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Mike Wright wrote: > > OK, I'm confused. That's a subscriber list. What do mean by "added to the > mailto". > Hi, Mike: I think all that was intended was the poster to the fedora-users list replied to a message on another list and

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 07:05:37PM -0400, Ted Roche wrote: > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Mike Wright > wrote: > > > > OK, I'm confused. That's a subscriber list. What do mean by "added to the > > mailto". > > > > Hi, Mike: > > I think all that was intended

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/04/2017 09:15 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/03/2017 05:58 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: >> On 08/04/2017 08:05 AM, AV wrote: >>> Sorry, Lxqt uses SDDM! (I don't know how stable SDDM is yet, I saw >>> a lot of problems mentioned on the web). >> SDDM is quite stable. Been using it with KDE since,

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver (SOLVED!)

Forgot the "SOLVED!" in the Subject line. On 08/03/2017 06:42 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: On 08/03/2017 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: Not that anything useful/needed should be in /usr/local/include but what

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On 08/03/2017 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: Not that anything useful/needed should be in /usr/local/include but what are the permissions on it? [root@new_pons ~]# ls -l /usr/local | fgrep include drwxr-x---

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/04/2017 09:28 AM, Ed Greshko wrote: > Anyway, I'm running KDE with SDDM as my display manager and everything is > "normal" in > that all users on the system are being shown. > > [egreshko@meimei system]$ who > egreshko pts/02017-08-03 09:11 (:0) > egreshko pts/12017-08-03

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Thu, Aug 03, 2017 at 06:15:25PM -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/03/2017 05:58 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > > On 08/04/2017 08:05 AM, AV wrote: > >> Sorry, Lxqt uses SDDM! (I don't know how stable SDDM is yet, I saw > >> a lot of problems mentioned on the web). > > > > SDDM is quite stable.

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

>though loginctl does). Login sessions via ssh, either >from remote hosts or to localhost are registered. Does "who -a" show them? I have a vague recollection I looked into that when I first encountered this. --Robert ___ users mailing list --

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 13:08 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/03/2017 11:09 AM, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: > > I saw something similar to this in Arch Linux before I switched to > > Fedora. It happened shortly after the switch to systemd and > > persisted on my systems until at least the

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 13:08 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > > Check the session manager, too and/or its settings. I just installed > LXQt and logged in using it. Both who and users worked fine for me. > > Oh, and please don't top-post. This is getting stranger and stranger! I just finished a fresh

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/03/2017 02:45 PM, AV wrote: > On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 13:08 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: >> On 08/03/2017 11:09 AM, Marmorstein, Robert wrote: >>> I saw something similar to this in Arch Linux before I switched to >>> Fedora. It happened shortly after the switch to systemd and >>> persisted on

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

On 08/03/2017 12:15 PM, Mike Wright wrote: > On 08/03/2017 11:28 AM, Tom H wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Wright >> wrote: Dng mailing list d...@lists.dyne.org

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/04/2017 08:05 AM, AV wrote: > Sorry, Lxqt uses SDDM! (I don't know how stable SDDM is yet, I saw > a lot of problems mentioned on the web). SDDM is quite stable. Been using it with KDE since, I believe, F24. > Mine was touched to, same permissions. >>> I had just finished checking the

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On 08/03/2017 01:35 PM, Richard Shaw wrote: > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sherman Grunewagen > wrote: > > On 08/03/2017 10:48 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > > Ok, for the same nvidia module and kernel version for me... > >

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 16:23 -0700, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 08/03/2017 02:45 PM, AV wrote > > You replied to Marmorstein, not to me :) I don't top post. > > Whoops! I just replied to the thread. Didn't pay attention to the > last > poster. My bad! (now flailing myself with wet linguini) > > >

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:22 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: > On 08/03/2017 10:48 AM, Richard Shaw wrote: > >> Ok, for the same nvidia module and kernel version for me... >> >> Dependencies resolved. >> >>

Re: MikeeUSA -- Notice Bruce Perens has NO response (nor does Moglen). [Was: Re: GrSecurity]

On 08/03/2017 02:50 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On 08/03/2017 12:15 PM, Mike Wright wrote: >> On 08/03/2017 11:28 AM, Tom H wrote: >>> On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Mike Wright >>> wrote: > > Dng mailing list > d...@lists.dyne.org

Re: 'who' & 'users' not working in lxqt (fed26)

On 08/03/2017 05:58 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: > On 08/04/2017 08:05 AM, AV wrote: >> Sorry, Lxqt uses SDDM! (I don't know how stable SDDM is yet, I saw >> a lot of problems mentioned on the web). > > SDDM is quite stable. Been using it with KDE since, I believe, F24. > >> Mine was touched to,

F25: How to force fsck at boot?

I would like to force fsck at boot but I tried touch /forcefsck and it did not run or I did not see it (however the file /forcefsck disappeared). Thanks, Frédéric ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: [F25] Help: latest update broke nvidia driver

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Sherman Grunewagen wrote: > After updating my F25 installation (which included installing > kernel-10-11-12-200) I can no longer > boot X (w/ startx). rpm -qa | fgrep kmod-nvidia-4.11.12 returns > >

Re: F25 completly froze, howto get pre-crash error messages?

> If you are using nvidia graphics and the nouveau driver, it could > be the same as this: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1475994 Yes I am using nvidia with nouveau. I my case, I could not login by ssh. The machine was unreachable. In the journal, however, I do not see anything

Re: F25 completly froze, howto get pre-crash error messages?

On Thursday, August 3, 2017 6:39:11 AM EDT Frédéric Bron wrote: > My F25 KDE Plasma completly froze. I even could not do Alt-SysReq > REISUB. I had to turn it off. > Is there a way to see if I can get some messages that would help me to > understand what happened? I am not using Nvidia (Intel)

Re: F25 completly froze, howto get pre-crash error messages?

Frédéric Bron writes: In the journal, however, I do not see anything related to nouveau. I can see many many many of lines such as: kernel: usb 1-1.4: new high-speed USB device number 63 using xhci_hcd with different numbers. I suppose this is because I was writing a lot of data (video) to a