Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Juan R. de Silva wrote: > On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 22:21:19 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > >> On 11/17/18 7:24 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >>> That is, indeed, hideous. >>> >>> Some out of work Gnome 3 UI Expert must've found a home at the Gimp >>> project. >> >> I think we've all figured out by now

Re: Gimp monstrosity

2018-11-18 Thread Juan R. de Silva
On Sat, 17 Nov 2018 22:21:19 -0800, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/17/18 7:24 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: >> That is, indeed, hideous. >> >> Some out of work Gnome 3 UI Expert must've found a home at the Gimp >> project. > > I think we've all figured out by now that you don't like Gnome. This As

Re: Gimp monstrosity

2018-11-18 Thread Tim via users
Allegedly, on or about 18 November 2018, Juan R. de Silva sent: > As far as I can see from his comment he only disaprove some GNOME UI > decisions not GNOME entirely. If Gnome doesn't like being critiqued so much, perhaps they should stop doing things that invite it. Such as removing user

Re: Network Manager not Retaining Wifi Password

2018-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 14/11/18 8:14 am, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/14/18 5:03 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: It's possible it is environmental, but if it is how do I identify what is causing it given that this was not always the functionality with nm on my system, and from my perspective it surfaced on a cold boot

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/18 5:51 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: > Sure, but if the user is in the United Kingdom where they use GMT, then > presumably they > would run their entire system in GMT, whereas other locations may or may not > want to, so > the motherboard should provide that option, and I have had

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/18/2018 02:08 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock motherboard that I have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not offered a setting to set the system clock to GMT/Local, and I have always set the system clock

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/11/18 12:17 pm, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/15/18 4:54 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: On 11/16/18 7:37 AM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/15/18 3:00 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: In Linux case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. I haven't had to deal

Re: Just switched to Fedora 28

2018-11-18 Thread Frank McCormick
On 2018-11-18 2:14 p.m., stan wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 12:55:34 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: Is there a way to get a newer version  such as 1.43 in the Git repository There is already a bugzilla open requesting that update. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1287762

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/18/2018 10:14 AM, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: I don't know why do you think that comment was  "police-like"  or why do you think that been disrespectful to Gnome designers is correct. I can't speak for anybody else on the list, but to me, your comment came across as very PC. I think

Just switched to Fedora 28

2018-11-18 Thread Frank McCormick
I am back on Fedora after a couple of years away. One of the first things I did was to install Icewm, and I am a little surprised at how old the Fedora version if (1.38). Is there a way to get a newer version  such as 1.43 in the Git repository without resorting to compiling it myself?

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
Short version: Grow some balls, guys, please! On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 12:25:10PM -0700, stan wrote: On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:49:00 + (UTC) "Juan R. de Silva" wrote: Irony and sarcasm are rarely considered "considerate or respectful" by those aimed. However, both irony and sarcasm belong

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Frau Silvia Sánchez
I don't know what is PC other than Personal Computer On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 at 18:23, Joe Zeff wrote: > On 11/18/2018 10:14 AM, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: > > I don't know why do you think that comment was "police-like" or why do > > you think that been disrespectful to Gnome designers is

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Juan R. de Silva
>> As far as I can see from his comment he only disaprove some GNOME UI >> decisions not GNOME entirely. >> >>> kind of comment is not welcome on the mailing list. >> >> Well, IMHO his is entitled to have his opinion. His comment is on topic >> and in the right list. >> >> Your statement

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 16/11/18 1:12 pm, Tony Nelson wrote: On 18-11-15 18:00:14, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/15/2018 03:17 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: In Linux case, it expects UTC. In Windows, it expects local time. I haven't had to deal with this for years, but if memory serves, there's a place where you can tell

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Stephen Morris
On 19/11/18 8:21 am, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/18/2018 02:08 PM, Stephen Morris wrote:  From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock motherboard that I have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not offered a setting to set the system clock to GMT/Local,

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Frau Silvia Sánchez
Hello Juan et all, I don't know why do you think that comment was "police-like" or why do you think that been disrespectful to Gnome designers is correct. I don't like Gnome Shell, but I simply opt not to use it. I don't need to be sarcastic and make comments on the people who work for the

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Tony Nelson
On 18-11-18 14:15:05, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: I don't know what is PC other than Personal Computer Google "pc acronym" and you will get a reasonable list. You'd probably choose Politically Correct from that list as appropriate for the context. Look up "pc" on wikipedia and learn much,

Re: Just switched to Fedora 28

2018-11-18 Thread stan
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 12:55:34 -0500 Frank McCormick wrote: > Is there a way to get a newer version  such as 1.43 in the Git > repository There is already a bugzilla open requesting that update. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1287762 ___

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread stan
On Sun, 18 Nov 2018 15:49:00 + (UTC) "Juan R. de Silva" wrote: > Irony and sarcasm are rarely considered "considerate or respectful" > by those aimed. However, both irony and sarcasm belong to a civilized > disputes toolset and are used in many public discussions on any level. The internet

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/18 5:08 AM, Stephen Morris wrote: >> > From recollection, which may not be completely accurate, the Asrock > motherboard that I > have now is the first motherboard I've had where the bios has not offered a > setting to > set the system clock to GMT/Local, and I have always set the

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread William Oliver
The bottom line is that if someone desperately wants to be offended, they will find a way. Conversely, if someone doesn't want to be offended, it's almost impossible to offend them. This seems to be a mysterious secret to a lot of people. Many years ago, I realized that being "offended" was

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Wolfgang Pfeiffer
On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 11:02:16PM +0100, Wolfgang Pfeiffer wrote: How likely would you be to have a constructive conversation if you did? See above: It wasn't a conversation with Gimp/Gnome coders - it was a sarcastic comment about how the OP thinks coders build these programs. No,

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
stan writes: The internet lends itself to critical comments. It's easy to post such comments in an email list, or anywhere else on the web. Would you say those kinds of things to the developer's faces? How likely would you be to have a constructive conversation if you did? Those are still

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Sam Varshavchik
William Oliver writes: The bottom line is that if someone desperately wants to be offended, they will find a way. Conversely, if someone doesn't want to be offended, it's almost impossible to offend them. This seems to be a mysterious secret to a lot of people. Many years ago, I realized

Re: Network Manager not Retaining Wifi Password

2018-11-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/18/18 1:42 PM, Stephen Morris wrote: I also created a new user and it behaved similarly but slightly differently. When I logged in with the new user I made the mistake of not changing the default so it logged into Gnome, and when Gnome started Networkmanager had a definition for ethernet

Re: VPN Interface not Remaining Active With Firewall?

2018-11-18 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 11/18/18 2:24 PM, Ed Greshko wrote: Right:  I dislike the default color scheme Wron:  What idiot picked the default color scheme Thank you! It's sad that it's necessary to point that out though. ___ users mailing list --

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Rex Dieter
Juan R. de Silva wrote: >>> As far as I can see from his comment he only disaprove some GNOME UI >>> decisions not GNOME entirely. >>> kind of comment is not welcome on the mailing list. >>> >>> Well, IMHO his is entitled to have his opinion. His comment is on topic >>> and in the right

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Ed Greshko
On 11/19/18 11:56 AM, Rex Dieter wrote: > Again, it is not welcome here. +1 -- Right: I dislike the default color scheme Wrong: What idiot picked the default color scheme ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an

Gtk for newest version of Pychess - F29/F28

2018-11-18 Thread Joerg Lechner via users
Hi, would like to run the newest version of Pychess on F28/F29. That`s my result: Installiert: pychess-0.99.3-1.py37.noarch Fertig. [joerg@localhost ~]$ pychess /usr/local/bin/pychess:17: PyGIWarning: Gtk was imported without specifying a

Re: Gimp

2018-11-18 Thread Joe Zeff
On 11/18/2018 12:15 PM, Frau Silvia Sánchez wrote: ) I don't know what is PC other than Personal Computer Here in the USA, it also stands for "Politically Correct." (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_correctness) ___ users mailing list --

[389-users] Auto add attributes when entries are created

2018-11-18 Thread Olivier JUDITH
Hi , I would like to add 2 new attributes to every new created entries in my 389 servers . In these attributes i would to add calculated values for initial users information . Is it possible to do that without developping a new plugin ? In case i have to write a new pluggins which languages

[389-users] Re: Auto add attributes when entries are created

2018-11-18 Thread William Brown
On Sun, 2018-11-18 at 21:44 +, Olivier JUDITH wrote: > Hi , > > I would like to add 2 new attributes to every new created entries in > my 389 servers . In these attributes i would to add calculated values > for initial users information . > Is it possible to do that without developping a new

[389-users] Re: Auto add attributes when entries are created

2018-11-18 Thread Olivier JUDITH
Thank you for your reply. I'm not a C developer and i prefer Python but i'll try to write my plugin. It's a challenge for me I started to read plugins development documentation on Redhat page. From my understanding i have to call SLAPI_PLUGIN_POST_ADD_FN , right ?. If a use CoS template can