Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-10 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 12:20 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: I believe you live in England. Does the BBC, who mainly developed Because of DRM, it even seems unsure the BBC itself will use it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/22/bbc-drm-cory-doctorow This doesn't

Re: Flash Problem

2010-01-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:59 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 20:29 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: Because of DRM, it even seems unsure the BBC itself will use it: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2009/dec/22/bbc-drm-cory-doctorow Interesting, but the usual

Re: dual replies

2010-01-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 4:26 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: Hi, I've noticed a recent phenomenon where some people seem to be posting, particularly replies, to this list twice over (more than I've noticed in the past). They're posting to: users@lists.fedoraproject.org *And*

NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-23 Thread Marcel Rieux
Since the NVIDIA forums are just a lost of time, I'll first ask the question here. I have an NVIDIA 9400GT card and a Sony LCD TV linked with an HDMI cable. First problem I found: the S/PDIF cable -- which is needed only with NVIDIA cards -- wasn't installed. The plug had a molding problem and

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-24 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Since the NVIDIA forums are just a lost of time, I'll first ask the question here. I have an NVIDIA 9400GT card and a Sony LCD TV linked with an HDMI cable. First problem I found: the S/PDIF cable

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-24 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Since the NVIDIA forums are just a lost of time, I'll first ask the question here. I have an NVIDIA 9400GT card and a Sony LCD TV linked with an HDMI cable. First problem I found: the S/PDIF cable

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:21 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 6:31 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: What is the output of lspci -v?       Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 82be I still don't understand why you

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Bill Davidsen wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Since the NVIDIA forums are just a lost of time, I'll first ask the question here. I have an NVIDIA 9400GT card and a Sony LCD TV linked with an HDMI cable. First problem I

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 01/23/2010 10:51 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Since the NVIDIA forums are just a lost of time, I'll first ask the question here. I have an NVIDIA 9400GT card and a Sony LCD TV linked with an HDMI cable

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 11:11 PM, john wendel jwende...@comcast.net wrote: Just a little note, I don't have the answer to your problem ... The S/PDIF interface only needs 2 wires from the motherboard to your video card, signal and ground. If you are connecting to a 4 pin header on the

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 01/25/2010 09:27 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: PA supports both analog and digital output, but you have to select the one you want. As I said, when I

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 3:55 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:49 AM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 01/25/2010 09:27 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 7:07 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: PA supports both analog

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 01/26/2010 06:09 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: And, besides, as I already said, digital sound doesn't come out of the computer's output. So this has nothing to do with the S/PDIF wire. (SNIP, be back tomorrow) Meanwhile... I

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-29 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: So, you were right. On the motherboard, the sockets and the labelling are dephased. |··| [Nothing] || [S/PDIF out] |···| T··he first socket, with 2 pins, has no labelling beside it, the second, with

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-29 Thread Marcel Rieux
Oups! This message was sent before it was completed. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: So, you were right. On the motherboard, the sockets and the labelling are dephased. |··|         [Nothing] ||       [S/PDIF out] |···|[CD out]

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-30 Thread Marcel Rieux
aOn Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: On 01/29/2010 05:49 PM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Oups! This message was sent before it was completed. On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: So, you were right. On the motherboard, the sockets

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-31 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Sat, 2010-01-30 at 17:01 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: What's the way to know polarity is correct, except trying both positions? Looking for pinout descriptions in your equipment manuals There's only a small rectangle

Re: NVIDIA: no sound to TV via HDMI

2010-01-31 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Jan 31, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Mikkel mik...@infinity-ltd.com wrote: What you may have is a header for 4 pins, but only 3 pins on the motherboard side. (I recall it was 3 pins for a previous message.) ... for s/pdif in, not out. Out has 2 pins and 'In' has 3 pins *side by side*, no empty

Re: F12 and Nvidia video card.

2010-02-04 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 8:23 PM, r...@dwf.com wrote: I see a lot of comments about F12 and Nvidia video card, but no solution to the problem (if there is one, PLEASE point me at it, Ive just upgraded to F12) In case you're refering to my posts, my only problems with my 9400GT card is enabling

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-11 Thread Marcel Rieux
2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström tob...@ringis.se: I'm using two 1280x1024 displays rotated 90 degrees with an Nvidia graphics card, and I was very impressed by Fedora 12, because it was the first Fedora release where I could get this setup working without using Nvidia's closed source driver, and I

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström tob...@ringis.se: On 02/12/2010 08:47 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: I'm trying in vain to get Twinview to work with NVIDIA's proprietary drivers. You know, images that show in a 5x4 format on my Viewsonic monitor showing fullscreen in 5x4 format on my Sony TV and images

Re: Display settings should not be per user

2010-02-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:54 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: 2010/2/12 Tobias Ringström tob...@ringis.se: Thanks for the trouble but see my answer to Tobias Ringström. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription

[Solved] Re: Update problems

2010-02-17 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Updates were available: Total size: 181 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: Running rpm_check_debug ERROR with rpm_check_debug vs depsolve: kernel-uname-r = 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.x86_64 is needed by (installed

Re: [Solved] Re: Update problems

2010-02-17 Thread Marcel Rieux
1 correction and a few typos removed: On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Updates were available: Total size: 181 M Is this ok [y/N]: y Downloading Packages: Running

Upgrade downgrades Firefox

2010-02-20 Thread Marcel Rieux
I was running Firefox 3.6.? and upgrades were available today. After reboot, Firefox opened with version 3.5.8. I tried yum update firefox... and I apparently have the latest version! -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Upgrade downgrades Firefox

2010-02-20 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Feb 20, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Patrick Bartek bartek...@yahoo.com wrote: --- On Sat, 2/20/10, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: I was running Firefox 3.6.? and upgrades were available today. After reboot, Firefox opened with version 3.5.8. I tried yum update firefox... and I

OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-24 Thread Marcel Rieux
I was under the impression that, at most small ISPs, Linux had replaced Unix and played a central role in making things work. But today, I spoke to an ISP employee who told me that Linux was only used for Web servers and that, for routing and firewalling, nobody escaped companies Cisco and Juniper

Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-24 Thread Marcel Rieux
I don't have much important data and I do my back-ups in the most simple way by saving my /home directory except for a few directories to a DVD. But K3B asks if i want to save hidden files. If I answer no, the .thunderbird and .evolution directories aren't saved and there's some important data in

Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com wrote: Servers don't really make good routers.  When you are talking about traditional low- to mid-speed telco circuits (T1, T3), there have never been good, well-supported, cost-effective solutions for connecting those directly to

Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

2010-02-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
Some people seem to have problems opening pdf documents with Fedora 12, but my problem is slightly different. Until 2 updates ago, everything was fine, but now, if I click a pdf file at Google's, it downloads but doesn't open I click Tools, Downloads the click the pdf file. That's not all. If I

Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 4:41 PM, Rick Stevens ri...@nerd.com wrote: So long as the firewall doesn't have to handle too many rules and the routing decisions are minimal.  At those traffic levels, the system would be swamped with interrupts anyway. Err... I believe we're though with this

Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:58 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Another way around it is to use the nautilus integration with k3b. Unlike k3b, nautilus has a selection for view hidden files.  Then you can drag and drop precisely what you need from nautilus to k3b. Ed, I'll let be

Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 4:50 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Thu, 2010-02-25 at 16:47 +1100, Chris Smart wrote: I'm sure there's a more accurate historical reason, but all of your application's configuration settings and data are stored that way to avoid you deleting things

Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 18:27 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: Like many good ideas, I'd say that this one has very little chance

Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 18:27 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Patrick O'Callaghan pocallag...@gmail.com wrote: Like many good ideas, I'd say that this one has very little chance of becoming

Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 8:25 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 19:49 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 18:27 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 8:05 AM

Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 9:27 PM, Chris Jones christopher.rob.jo...@cern.ch wrote: - cannot be adequately established for Linux because so few computers are actually sold with Linux on them. Why is that? In which way would making back-up easier -- and this is only one problem -- make Linux

Re: F12: Another Pulseaudio No Sound problem

2010-02-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 1:41 AM, Tony Nelson tonynel...@georgeanelson.com wrote: On 10-02-24 23:07:41, Don Levey wrote: I've been reading with interest the problems with PulseAudio since F12 came out, and I find myself in a similar situation (none of the previously offered solutions seem to

Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-27 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote: Ooops! Maybe the discussion is not over :) I understand not much of this, so let me try to sum this up in a know-nothing friendly way. They use nvidia multi gpu video cards for routing. Hence, they don't face the interrupts

Re: Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

2010-02-27 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 10:07 PM, Ranjan Maitra mai...@iastate.edu wrote: On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:25:17 -0500 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Ranjan Maitra mai...@iastate.edu wrote: Maybe if I could redirect the system to the right copy of Firefox

Re: Why are .thunderbird and .evolution hidden ?

2010-02-27 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 11:27 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-02-26 at 21:55 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: http://marketshare.hitslink.com/report.aspx?qprid=8qpcal=1qpcal=1qptimeframe=Yqpsp=2010 Now, you might find this doesn't correspond to the ravings of the Linux

Re: OT: ISPs: Linux's role nowadays

2010-02-28 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 11:08:38AM -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 8:36 AM, Pasi Kärkkäinen pa...@iki.fi wrote: Ooops! Maybe the discussion is not over :) I understand not much of this, so let me try

Re: Many bugs: pdf, Thunderbird, Firefox, goes knows.

2010-02-28 Thread Marcel Rieux
Hi Ranjan! If you ever come up with a suggestion or other info requests, don't despair if I don't answer. I'm switching provider and might be offline for a few days. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

My contribution

2010-03-05 Thread Marcel Rieux
Maybe you'll remember I had problems opening files in Firefox from TBird. If I clicked a link, it wouldn't automatically open in Firefox. Here's the solution. Under Edit = Preferences = Advanced = General, you have System defaults which says Always check to see if Firefox is the default browser

Re: My contribution (only the Knode issue)

2010-03-05 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:31 PM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Here's what Knode looked like when I opened it today: http://cjoint.com/?dgcNjJBH6c What's this: Loca...   O...   Sent   Dr... Moving the vertical bar doesn't lengthen the names and I saw

Re: My contribution

2010-03-05 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 21:21 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: Whatever nonsense Mr White might throw at me to state that real Linux believers never admit there's a problem, I say there is a HGE problem. And, like

Re: My contribution (only the Knode issue)

2010-03-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Ed Greshko ed.gres...@greshko.com wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: I suppose it mustn't be a joy for you either, given your sight problems. I don't have any particular sight problemsother than missing the obvious from time to time. I thought you said

Re: My contribution

2010-03-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:17 AM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Trolltech has been sold to Nokia. Nokia fights against html5. The rotten -- guess what this icon is -- interface seems accepted without question, but I'd bet they've lost most of their user base. They certainly lost me

Re: My contribution

2010-03-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 21:21 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: Maybe you'll remember I had problems I'm, now, *certain* that you're seriously nuts.  You have unrealistic expectations of the world Yes, I must agree. Having

Re: My contribution

2010-03-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Peter Gordon pe...@thecodergeek.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-06 at 16:01 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: Yes, I must agree. Having to wait less than 2 years to get a clipboard that really works or to be asked if you really want to delete files is [completely

Re: My contribution (only the Knode issue)

2010-03-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 6:22 PM, Les hlhow...@pacbell.net wrote: Hi, Craig,        While those of us who use lots of applications may be familiar with the general concepts and will prowl a bit to get the right combination, And since there is so much energy wasted on different projects, the

Re: My contribution

2010-03-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 06 March 2010 09:01:55 pm Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Tim ignored_mail...@yahoo.com.au wrote: On Fri, 2010-03-05 at 21:21 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: Yes, I must agree. Having to wait

Re: My contribution (only the Knode issue)

2010-03-06 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 12:27 AM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: There are many different software choices on Linux and it would be folly to suggest (as you are indeed suggesting) that all of the choices be 'dumbed' down to the lowest common denominator of users. Absolutely. As I

Re: Nvidia problem after kernel 2.6.32.9-70.fc12 update

2010-03-11 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 4:02 AM, Dario Lesca d.le...@solinos.it wrote: The nvidia module is missing. I haven't updated yet because I'm still waiting for kmod-nvidia, the module needed by the kernel for nvidia cards (proprietary driver only, I'm not sure. I suppose so,) Now, when I do yum

Dependencies problem while upgrading

2010-03-12 Thread Marcel Rieux
yum update Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit Setting up Update Process Resolving Dependencies -- Running transaction check --- Package abrt.x86_64 0:1.0.8-2.fc12 set to be updated --- Package abrt-addon-ccpp.x86_64 0:1.0.8-2.fc12 set to be updated --- Package abrt-addon-kerneloops.x86_64

Re: Dependencies problem while upgrading

2010-03-13 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 3:17 AM, Chris chris1.nore...@googlemail.com wrote: On 12 March 2010 21:58, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Aaron Konstam akons...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I just went through this.. yum --skip-broken seemed to allow me to install

Deafening silence

2010-03-13 Thread Marcel Rieux
In thread starting with http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2010-March/367987.html I stated a skewer of bugs. Geeks answered it was normal to have bugs like, for at least 2 years now, New Files entering the clipboard every time a new file is created. It would also be normal to have no

Re: Deafening silence

2010-03-13 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:21:35 pm Marcel Rieux wrote: I use Fedora.  I even somewhat like Fedora. I suppose we do. Otherwise, we'd be using another distro. Does this mean that, because maybe 20% of the 1% Linux users

Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-03-13 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote: We are *not* irrelevant.  I'm not, and neither is the OP, and the attitude that says we are is the *problem*. #1 - mentioning Red Hat or the NYSE on a

Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-03-13 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:26 PM, Russell Miller duskg...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 13 March 2010 02:58:48 pm Craig White wrote: What about selinux?  At the SCALE conference, Karsten Wade gave the keynote and acknowledged that selinux was handled badly, and also acknowledged that it was a

Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-03-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:14 AM, Matthew Saltzman m...@clemson.edu wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 23:56 -0500, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:47 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Sat, 2010-03-13 at 15:26 -0800, Russell Miller wrote: We are *not* irrelevant. I'm

Re: How to Install Nvidia Driver in Fedora12?

2010-03-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
210/3/14 严晶涛 yanjing...@innlab.net: My classmate has bought a computer with GT220. When I download Nvidia Driver,use init 3 to run it. but it prompt that cannot find nvidia.ko.. I have searched Google,and changed menu.lst,added nouveau.modeset=0 This time,I have install Nvidia Driver

Re: Deafening silence

2010-03-14 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: Of course a blog is exactly the right forum for those kinds of broad based, opinion diatribes while the list is exactly the wrong place but one thing that seems to be consistent between people like Karl and Marcel (and

Re: How to Install Nvidia Driver in Fedora12?

2010-03-15 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 8:54 PM, ka1ifq ka1...@sbcglobal.net wrote: On 08:30:12 pm Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com said Maybe I should add that, if I were you, I'd forget about Nvidia drivers altogether. Nvidia offers no support for Linux and, since it's not open source, you don't get much

Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-03-15 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 8:35 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: Distrowatch says that Red Hat 6 will be about 2 years late because Fedora is too goddamned buggy. In which way will Fedora's bugs help Red Hat succeed better than Canonical or Novell? Red Hat 6 was released many many

Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-03-16 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 6:16 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: If you mean a Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6 then nobody who knows anything is going to give you an answer because it would be unlawful to do so in the USA (and most countries) as it would involve material information

Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-03-16 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: Since you have a little bit of experience in development :) do you think that developers -- maybe mainly application developers? -- would benefit from this deadline for downstream releases(1)? Debian's ready when it's

Re: [OT] Deafening silence

2010-03-16 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:30 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 01:45 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: BTW, to all, I found this article that I found very interesting: https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/377930/51c110883cc4de9c/ It answered a lot of my questions

Re: Re: How to Install Nvidia Driver in Fedora12?

2010-03-16 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Amiga5 ami...@live.com wrote: in your grub.conf add In order to keep compatibility with nouveau lsmod | grep nouveau outputs nothing. So, I suppose I don't have compatibility with Nouveau. My question here is what's the purpose of keeping compatibility with

Re: How to Install Nvidia Driver in Fedora12?

2010-03-17 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 8:06 AM, Marko Vojinovic vvma...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 17 March 2010 04:15:51 am Marcel Rieux wrote: On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:55 AM, Amiga5 ami...@live.com wrote: in your grub.conf add In order to keep compatibility with nouveau lsmod | grep nouveau

Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-19 Thread Marcel Rieux
For a while, I've been arguing with very knowledgeable people here that there are way too many bugs in Fedora, bugs that either hinder a pleasant user experience or plainly break systems to the point that one wonders if he's not being hacked. And, for a non-geek like me, get rid of them before new

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-20 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 1:09 AM, charles zeitler cfzeit...@gmail.com wrote: Do what thou wilt shall  be the whole  of the Law. i'd like to make a few points: On 3/19/10, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: (1) The only option available in my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P's BIOS offering only

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-21 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, den 20.03.2010, 01:30 -0400 schrieb Marcel Rieux: (1) The only option available in my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P's BIOS offering only options for entering passwords, for exemple. Sorry, I don't

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-21 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:04 AM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, den 20.03.2010, 01:30 -0400 schrieb Marcel Rieux: (1) The only option available in my Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P's BIOS

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-21 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 2:07 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, den 21.03.2010, 02:04 -0400 schrieb Marcel Rieux: On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Samstag, den 20.03.2010, 01:30 -0400 schrieb

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-21 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 5:51 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Actually, the OP did not strike me as a weenie, but rather as a sort of misguided geek. In my life, a few people tagged me as a geek but, believe me, they were badly misguided. And misguided I might be too, but I

AppArmor about to be merged into the kernel?

2010-03-21 Thread Marcel Rieux
Ingo Molnar | 8 Mar 10:46 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/958644 Linus Torvalds | 5 Mar 02:28 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/957822 Linus Torvalds | 8 Mar 20:32 http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel/958823 -- users mailing list

Re: AppArmor about to be merged into the kernel?

2010-03-22 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:24 AM, Don Quixote de la Mancha quix...@dulcineatech.com wrote: Perhaps someone could post a brief note that compares and contrasts SELinux with AppArmor. I am getting ready to set up SELinux on a server, but haven't actually started yet. My first step would be to

Re: Sorbet on Fedora's future

2010-03-22 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:07 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote: Marcel Rieux wrote: Are you saying that if you run Linux, and then re-boot, and enter the BIOS, it is changed in some way? I would think this is exactly what I said. What you actually said

Re: AppArmor about to be merged into the kernel?

2010-03-22 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:49 PM, Sam Sharpe lists.red...@samsharpe.netwrote: On 22 March 2010 22:36, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Suse uses AppArmor without kernel integration and I'm not sure what support they offer for the project. They bought AppArmor and later licensed

[Solved... but I still wonder what happened] DVD doesn't play

2010-03-24 Thread Marcel Rieux
Since nobody seemed to report a problem playing DVDs, I decided to check my settings. Smplayer and Gmplayer were both set to play DVDs from /dev/dvd I checked and there was no /dev/dvd. So, I did: ls -l /dev/dvd* lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root 3 2010-03-24 12:52 /dev/dvd1 - sr0 lrwxrwxrwx. 1 root root

Re: [Solved... but I still wonder what happened] DVD doesn't play

2010-03-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:28 AM, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/03/2010 06:39, Marcel Rieux a écrit : Since nobody seemed to report a problem playing DVDs, I decided to check my settings. Smplayer

Re: [Solved... but I still wonder what happened] DVD doesn't play

2010-03-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:25 AM, mike cloaked mike.cloa...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:39 AM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Since nobody seemed to report a problem playing DVDs, I decided to check my settings. Smplayer and Gmplayer were both set to play DVDs from

Pwn2Own 2010: ChromeOS, the last man standing

2010-03-25 Thread Marcel Rieux
Google Chrome, however, has yet to succumb. Once again, it's Chrome's sandbox which is making things difficult. At last year's Pwn2Own, Charlie Miller had this to say: There are bugs in Chrome but they're very hard to exploit. I have a Chrome vulnerability right now but I don't know how to

Re: [Solved... but I still wonder what happened] DVD doesn't play

2010-03-26 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:11 AM, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Le 25/03/2010 23:01, Marcel Rieux a écrit : On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:28 AM, François Patte francois.pa...@mi.parisdescartes.fr

FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
I've been a bit late to get to the Distrowatch weekly this week but I finally heard about Paul Frields, the Fedora Project Leader, stepping down. I’m interested in branching out into other ways of championing free and open source software at Red Hat, he says.

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Alan Cox a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:07:33 -0400 Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: I've been a bit late to get to the Distrowatch weekly this week but I finally heard about Paul Frields, the Fedora Project Leader, stepping

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:29 PM, Chris Tyler ch...@tylers.info wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 13:07 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: I've been a bit late to get to the Distrowatch weekly this week but I finally heard about Paul Frields, the Fedora Project Leader, stepping down. ... So, I

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Paul W. Frields sticks...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 03:20:30PM -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:32 PM, Alan Cox [1]a...@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk wrote: On Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:07:33 -0400 Marcel Rieux [2

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:06 PM, Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Sam Sharpe lists.red...@samsharpe.net said: You keep saying this. I shall make only two points as I am bored of saying this time and time again. I would welcome you stopping saying this, since you

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 17:23 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: as far as I can tell, you seem to be the only one confused about Red Hat/Fedora. Fedora is a completely separate entity with its own management, resources

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-01 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:14 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 22:02 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:42 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Thu, 2010-04-01 at 17:23 -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: as far

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-03 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:51 PM, Matt Domsch matt_dom...@dell.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 01, 2010 at 11:23:48PM -0400, Marcel Rieux wrote: As a matter of fact, as Fedora is mainly financed by Red Hat as a test bench for RHEL. Fedora is more than a test bench for RHEL. I can hardly

Re: AppArmor about to be merged into the kernel?

2010-04-03 Thread Marcel Rieux
Gee, I almost missed this one! On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Thomas Cameron thomas.came...@camerontech.com wrote: I must confess that I'm not very strong on opinions; I'm better on facts. Then you should probably try finding some. The drivel below is complete fantasy. 2006.

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-05 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 4:36 PM, psmith psm...@fedoraproject.org wrote: On 01/04/10 23:44, Craig White wrote: I do have faith that Fedora governance is independent of Red Hat. Craig you are joking right? fedora is just a testing ground for redhat (think selinux, pulseaudio, abrt

Klipper now works in GNOME!

2010-04-05 Thread Marcel Rieux
On the brighter side, an upgrade has arrived since I noticed that Klipper only worked properly in GNOME after Parcellite was installed and functional. The upgarde caused problems selecting text. I removed Parcellite and now Klipper works perfectly in GNOME. Glipper is still unavailable. -- users

Re: Klipper now works in GNOME!

2010-04-05 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 6:42 PM, Christoph Wickert christoph.wick...@googlemail.com wrote: Am Montag, den 05.04.2010, 17:17 -0400 schrieb Marcel Rieux: On the brighter side, an upgrade has arrived since I noticed that Klipper only worked properly in GNOME after Parcellite was installed

Re: FPL steps down: what's the real story?

2010-04-07 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Rahul Sundaram methe...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/06/2010 02:39 AM, Marcel Rieux wrote: Meanwhile, back on the farm, Mark Shuttleworth pays his developers and doesn't get a cent back... for now. Far from true. You need to check your facts. Oops! I missed

Test, ignore

2010-04-08 Thread Marcel Rieux
Sorry, folks but it seems there is no test group and I want to see how gmail interacts with Fedora's list when there is a Cc. I hope... p wont't mind if I use his address. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options:

Re: Test, ignore

2010-04-08 Thread Marcel Rieux
On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 1:26 PM, Marcel Rieux m.z.ri...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry, folks but it seems there is no test group and I want to see how gmail interacts with Fedora's list when there is a Cc. I hope... p won't mind if I use his address. Sorry, p. I'll need a second one. THis should

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