Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 11/9/18 9:11 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > Thank you, Kevin Fenzi, for this expanded and more informative > explanation.  It is exactly what I was looking for. > > I do hope, though, that next time around F30 will include a Live Xfce > spin in the distribution tree, even if it has to be an

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-09 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/7/18 8:11 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. This crucial piece of the release

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-08 Thread Tom H
On Wed, Nov 7, 2018 at 10:37 PM Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: >> >> I realize there's a powerful faction at Redhat that insists that Gnome >> is the One True Way. They're wrong. > > At least you do have other options with Fedora. Not so easy with, say, >

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-08 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 20:31 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Rick Stevens writes: > > > At least you do have other options with Fedora. Not so easy with, say, > > Ubuntu. Switching desktops on it is a bit more convoluted. I've never > > tried it myself, but I've heard stories... > > My work

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce > Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. > I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. > > This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Rick Stevens writes: At least you do have other options with Fedora. Not so easy with, say, Ubuntu. Switching desktops on it is a bit more convoluted. I've never tried it myself, but I've heard stories... My work laptop runs Ubuntu, and I switched it to the XFCE desktop. I do not

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: > When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce > Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. > I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. > > This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Jonathan Dieter
On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 14:53 -0500, David A. De Graaf wrote: > When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce > Spin .iso. As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. > I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. > > This crucial piece of the release is missing at all

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread AV
On Wed, 2018-11-07 at 20:21 +, Rick Stevens wrote: > > > I did find one place: > > https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html > > that offers to "Download Fedora 29 Xfce Desktop", and I have done > > so. > > However, there's no checksum that I've been able to discover. > >

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread David A. De Graaf
On 11/7/18 3:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: I did find one place:   https://spins.fedoraproject.org/xfce/download/index.html that offers to "Download Fedora 29 Xfce Desktop", and I have done so. However, there's no checksum that I've been able to

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread Rick Stevens
On 11/7/18 12:21 PM, Rick Stevens wrote: > On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: >> When a new Fedora is released, I immediately fetch the Live Xfce >> Spin .iso.  As a Gnome hater, I want to avoid that entrapment. >> I've always found Xfce perfectly suited for me. >> >> This crucial piece

Re: Fedora 29 - released before its time???

2018-11-07 Thread ToddAndMargo via users
On 11/7/18 11:53 AM, David A. De Graaf wrote: This crucial piece of the release is missing at all the mirror sites I've visited and, indeed, the file that lists checksums for all the Spins omits mention of the Xfce-Live version. What I did was to run the ISO as a CDROM from one of my virtual