Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-10-03 Thread Earl A Ramirez
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>
> How about contributing the info they need on the upstream bug (see link
> above) to fix this issue? Free software can only evolve if people
> contribute, this includes useful information for fixing bugs.
>
> Will do.



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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-24 Thread Christian Stadelmann
> Looks like I'm suffering from the bug that was reported years ago, I am
> running the vanilla shell that exists in Fedora 24, looks like I will have
> to use an alternate Desktop Environment because I don't know why the
> gnome-shell has such horrible memory management that can consume up 6GB
> based on my experience, can't recall seeing it on F23 though.

How about contributing the info they need on the upstream bug (see link above) 
to fix this issue? Free software can only evolve if people contribute, this 
includes useful information for fixing bugs.
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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-24 Thread Andre Robatino
> What version of Fedora are you using?

F24 x86_64 (clean install). It doesn't use that much memory for me - I have 16 
GB, and after a day or so it gets to as high as 2%, restarting gets it down to 
about 0.8%. I got into the habit when the machine had less memory and it would 
get up to around 10%. My original post was just to mention restarting, in case 
the OP was unaware of it - it's easy to do, unlike logging out or rebooting. 
Even if it used a lot more, I wouldn't bother changing desktops because of it, 
unless it got wedged somehow if I forgot to restart.
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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-24 Thread Earl A Ramirez
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>
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> I don't HAVE to do it, I just like to keep the memory usage down. If
> there's supposed to be some kind of performance gain from the high usage, I
> don't see it - AFAICT it works just as well after the restart as before. If
> it's caching something it would be interesting to know what.
>
>
What version of Fedora are you using?

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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-24 Thread Earl A Ramirez
On 23 September 2016 at 20:37, Christian Stadelmann <
genodeft...@fedoraproject.org> wrote:

> This is a common issue with gnome-shell.
> 1. Can you try disabling any gnome-shell extension and see whether it is
> still present? If no, then one of your extensions is to blame. There is no
> easy way except manually enabling/disabling them and having a look at
> gnome-shell's RAM usage.
> 2. If you are sure it is an issue in gnome-shell, you're probably running
> into https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642652.
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Thanks, Christian,

Looks like I'm suffering from the bug that was reported years ago, I am
running the vanilla shell that exists in Fedora 24, looks like I will have
to use an alternate Desktop Environment because I don't know why the
gnome-shell has such horrible memory management that can consume up 6GB
based on my experience, can't recall seeing it on F23 though.

Thanks again for your response, highly appreciated.

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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-24 Thread Tim
Allegedly, on or about 23 September 2016, Joe Zeff sent:
> if this were a common issue, there'd be a Bugzilla about it

There is, going back several years.

> and probably a fast patch. 

Scoff!  Only if they admit that they're doing it the wrong way.

I gave up on Gnome when they made a desktop look like a tablet computer
display, and they ploughed on with that stupid design philosophy despite
all the complaints.  I went over to using the Mate fork, instead, and
it's far better (for me).  However, the login screen still uses Gnome
shell, and that makes the computer grind to a halt, all by itself,
particularly when its screensaver kicks in (just a static graphic of a
pretty picture).  On computers that are left running all the time, I
periodically have to cold boot them (or go through a lot more malarkey),
to make them stop behaving like a 486 with 2 megs of RAM.

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Linux 3.9.10-100.fc17.x86_64 #1 SMP Sun Jul 14 01:31:27 UTC 2013 x86_64

Boilerplate:  All mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted, there is
no point trying to privately email me, I only get to see the messages
posted to the mailing list.

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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-23 Thread Andre Robatino
> On 09/23/2016 01:23 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> 
> If you have to restart Gnome Shell daily, there's something wrong, 
> either with your system or Gnome Shell itself.

I don't HAVE to do it, I just like to keep the memory usage down. If there's 
supposed to be some kind of performance gain from the high usage, I don't see 
it - AFAICT it works just as well after the restart as before. If it's caching 
something it would be interesting to know what.
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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff

On 09/23/2016 02:44 PM, Christian Stadelmann wrote:

On 09/23/2016 01:23 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
>
>If you have to restart Gnome Shell daily, there's something wrong,
>either with your system or Gnome Shell itself.

That's probably true. I'm just here to help, not to complain.


Well, I can't help directly because I don't use Gnome.  However, if this 
were a common issue, there'd be a Bugzilla about it and probably a fast 
patch.  My personal guess is that there's something wrong with the 
system and/or a fairly obscure bug in Gnome Shell or an interaction 
between both.

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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-23 Thread Christian Stadelmann
> On 09/23/2016 01:23 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:
> 
> If you have to restart Gnome Shell daily, there's something wrong, 
> either with your system or Gnome Shell itself.

That's probably true. I'm just here to help, not to complain.
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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-23 Thread Joe Zeff

On 09/23/2016 01:23 PM, Andre Robatino wrote:

I don't know if it's normal, but I've gotten into the habit of checking periodically and 
restarting gnome shell with "Alt-F2 r" if it's high. I do this maybe once a day.



If you have to restart Gnome Shell daily, there's something wrong, 
either with your system or Gnome Shell itself.

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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-23 Thread Andre Robatino
I don't know if it's normal, but I've gotten into the habit of checking 
periodically and restarting gnome shell with "Alt-F2 r" if it's high. I do this 
maybe once a day.
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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-23 Thread Roman
В Пт, 23/09/2016 в 18:37 +, Christian Stadelmann пишет:
> This is a common issue with gnome-shell.
> 1. Can you try disabling any gnome-shell extension and see whether it
> is still present? If no, then one of your extensions is to blame.
> There is no easy way except manually enabling/disabling them and
> having a look at gnome-shell's RAM usage.

actually if u r allow some extension(in js even not c) to eat all ur
RAM its bad by design. Firefox/chrome realized it now with thier policy
about plugins


And withoout extensions gnome-shell isnt really useful imho

> 2. If you are sure it is an issue in gnome-shell, you're probably
> running into https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642652.
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Re: Gnome shell high memory usage

2016-09-23 Thread Christian Stadelmann
This is a common issue with gnome-shell.
1. Can you try disabling any gnome-shell extension and see whether it is still 
present? If no, then one of your extensions is to blame. There is no easy way 
except manually enabling/disabling them and having a look at gnome-shell's RAM 
usage.
2. If you are sure it is an issue in gnome-shell, you're probably running into 
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=642652.
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