Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
My apologies. My post was meant to be a part of ToddAndMargo's thread, not start a new thread. In the future, I will try to be more careful to not reply to a digest. The important thing: Todd and Margo, did anything in your original thread or in this thread provide what you want? If Todd and Margo's reply is no, maybe we should use the original thread for further discussion. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/12/18 3:29 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 11/11/18 4:38 PM, home user via users wrote: >> (f28 and Gnome, both up-to-date as of last Thursday, using "dnf upgrade >> --refresh") >> I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d". >> I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d -twentyfour". > > On my F29, it doesn't. I don't either. Unless, that is, I "export LC_TIME=C". Or use a locale that does 24hr clock as its default. -- Fedora Users - The place to go to beat OT dead horses :-) :-) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/11/18 4:38 PM, home user via users wrote: (f28 and Gnome, both up-to-date as of last Thursday, using "dnf upgrade --refresh") I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d". I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d -twentyfour". On my F29, it doesn't. The xclock man page lists the "-strftime" option for specifying digital date-time format, and says "This option allows an strftime(3) format string to be specified for the digital clock's display.". So I would think it would it would interpret the "%n" specifier as does strftime. Apparently, my thinking is wrong. I thought xclock was calling strftime. Apparently not, or maybe it does not know what to do with a part of what strftime returns. I'm sure it does call strftime. But whatever it's using to render the resulting string doesn't know to treat a newline in a special way. It just renders the glyph instead. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/11/2018 05:38 PM, home user via users wrote: The xclock man page lists the "-strftime" option for specifying digital date-time format, and says "This option allows an strftime(3) format string to be specified for the digital clock's display.". So I would think it would it would interpret the "%n" specifier as does strftime. Apparently, my thinking is wrong. I thought xclock was calling strftime. Apparently not, or maybe it does not know what to do with a part of what strftime returns. Well, open a Bugzilla on it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
> On 11/11/18 12:34 PM, home user via users wrote: > > Does that work for you? It doesn't work for me. I know that the man > page says it should do that, but it always gave me 12 hour instead. (f28 and Gnome, both up-to-date as of last Thursday, using "dnf upgrade --refresh") I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d". I get a 24-hour time when I enter "xclock -d -twentyfour". > Unlikely. The problem is that xclock would have to interpret the > newline character and isn't designed to do that. The xclock man page lists the "-strftime" option for specifying digital date-time format, and says "This option allows an strftime(3) format string to be specified for the digital clock's display.". So I would think it would it would interpret the "%n" specifier as does strftime. Apparently, my thinking is wrong. I thought xclock was calling strftime. Apparently not, or maybe it does not know what to do with a part of what strftime returns. Bill. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On Sun, 2018-11-11 at 15:51 -0500, Doug wrote: > On 11/11/2018 03:34 PM, home user via users wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > > snip > > If your Fedora doesn't supply the kde5 (Plasma) desktop I mentioned the > other day, rpmfind will get you a plasma rpm for Fedora. Nice clock with > the time above the date. KDE5 is part of the standard Fedora repos. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/11/18 12:34 PM, home user via users wrote:
> > xclock -d -update 1 &
>
> Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could
> not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines.
> Also the -24 switch did not work
The digital ("-d") option uses the 24-hour format by default.
Regardless, the option for 24-hour format is "-twentyfour", not "-24".
Does that work for you? It doesn't work for me. I know that the man
page says it should do that, but it always gave me 12 hour instead.
The "strftime" option wants "-n" for a newline. But that seems to not
work. Like Samuel, I get an empty rectangle for the "%n". I tried
several "xclock" commands. Each time, I get the warning message
"Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion" Is that a
useful clue to why we can't get time and date on separate lines?
Unlikely. The problem is that xclock would have to interpret the
newline character and isn't designed to do that.
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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/11/2018 03:34 PM, home user via users wrote: Good afternoon, snip If your Fedora doesn't supply the kde5 (Plasma) desktop I mentioned the other day, rpmfind will get you a plasma rpm for Fedora. Nice clock with the time above the date. --doug ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
Good afternoon,
> > xclock -d -update 1 &
>
> Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could
> not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines.
> Also the -24 switch did not work
The digital ("-d") option uses the 24-hour format by default.
Regardless, the option for 24-hour format is "-twentyfour", not "-24".
The "strftime" option wants "-n" for a newline. But that seems to not
work. Like Samuel, I get an empty rectangle for the "%n". I tried
several "xclock" commands. Each time, I get the warning message
"Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion" Is that a
useful clue to why we can't get time and date on separate lines?
Bill.
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Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/10/18 11:02 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/10/2018 10:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: There doesn't seem to be a way to get them on separate lines. I don't remember that being in the original request. The 24 hour option seems to be broken, but you can do something like this: xclock -d -strftime "%H:%M:%S %Y-%m-%d" -update 1 I know that you can escape a newline for echo by using $'\n' so maybe the same thing will work here. If not, try it without the $ and see if that does it. I tried many variations. It doesn't interpret the newline, it tries to create a character with it. In general that generates an empty rectangle character. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/10/2018 10:50 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: There doesn't seem to be a way to get them on separate lines. I don't remember that being in the original request. The 24 hour option seems to be broken, but you can do something like this: xclock -d -strftime "%H:%M:%S %Y-%m-%d" -update 1 I know that you can escape a newline for echo by using $'\n' so maybe the same thing will work here. If not, try it without the $ and see if that does it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/10/18 7:36 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/9/18 10:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school. Install xorg-x11-apps and run xclock! (Use the "-d" option.) Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines. Also the -24 switch did not work There doesn't seem to be a way to get them on separate lines. I don't remember that being in the original request. The 24 hour option seems to be broken, but you can do something like this: xclock -d -strftime "%H:%M:%S %Y-%m-%d" -update 1 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/10/18 3:19 AM, Terry Polzin wrote: xclock -d -update 1 & Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines. Also the -24 switch did not work ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/9/18 10:16 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school. Install xorg-x11-apps and run xclock! (Use the "-d" option.) Tried that. It give me a one live date and time. I could not figure out how to get the date and time on separate lines. Also the -24 switch did not work ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/10/18 12:21 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could not figure out how to make it digital. :'( Do you really have much desktop real estate to burn, on a clock? I use whatever XFCE offers for an imaginatively titled "Clock" widget for its panels. It just sits there, taking up only a tiny postage stamp-sized space in my panel. black background on panel icons https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14842 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/10/2018 03:21 PM, Sam Varshavchik wrote: ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could not figure out how to make it digital. :'( Do you really have much desktop real estate to burn, on a clock? I use whatever XFCE offers for an imaginatively titled "Clock" widget for its panels. It just sits there, taking up only a tiny postage stamp-sized space in my panel. I have a KDE5 (Plasma) desktop with clock showing time and date at the end of the panel. Right now it shows "3:42 PM" on top over "Sat 11/10/18". Doug, WA2SAY ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
ToddAndMargo via users writes: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could not figure out how to make it digital. :'( Do you really have much desktop real estate to burn, on a clock? I use whatever XFCE offers for an imaginatively titled "Clock" widget for its panels. It just sits there, taking up only a tiny postage stamp-sized space in my panel. pgp2zfj7IkFJb.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
xclock -d -update 1 & On Sat, Nov 10, 2018 at 2:27 AM Paul Allen Newell wrote: > > > On 11/09/2018 09:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > > On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: > >> On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: > >>> Hi All, > >>> > >>> I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go > >>> inundates me with command line options. > >>> > >>> -T > >> > >> You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years > >> now. > > > > I could not figure out how to make it digital. > > > > :'( > > > Everything I see online about TzClock indicates it isn't a digital clock > and doesn't want to be one > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/09/2018 09:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could not figure out how to make it digital. :'( Everything I see online about TzClock indicates it isn't a digital clock and doesn't want to be one ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. Time to go old school. Install xorg-x11-apps and run xclock! (Use the "-d" option.) ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/09/2018 10:39 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could not figure out how to make it digital. :'( You might try emailing the maintainer. I did when I was having trouble getting it to save its config. He responded with an undocumented command switch that made it save its config on exit, and once that's done, it updates it as needed. However, I don't think it's intended to be a digital clock, so it might not be what you want. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/9/18 9:57 PM, Samuel Sieb wrote: On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. What desktop do you use? Gnome has that right at the top of the screen. I am using Xfce and the background on DateTime is all screwed up ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. What desktop do you use? Gnome has that right at the top of the screen. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/9/18 9:30 PM, Joe Zeff wrote: On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. I could not figure out how to make it digital. :'( ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/09/2018 08:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T You might try TzClock. I've found it satisfactory for several years now. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
Re: I need a data and time clock for my desktop
On 11/9/18 7:35 PM, ToddAndMargo via users wrote: Hi All, I need a data and time clock for my desktop. Duck Duck go inundates me with command line options. -T tzclock is interesting, but I can't figure out how to turn it into a digital clock ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://getfedora.org/code-of-conduct.html List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org
