Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
As an aside, My daughter developed a Moodle site for a school project and wants her school to move to Moodle but they are fixated on something called a VLA, which is not a patch on Moodle and has few if any of Moodle's capabilities. That is very nice! I have worked in eLearning since 98, and Moodle has been my favourite platform from the OpenSource ones since it's been available. OF course I have to offer different solutions to my clients, some just will not install OpenSource (don't ask, I have no idea why would they have such a requirement), others just say we want platform X, you build it but I always offer Moodle as a safe choice. Please let us know how you are progressing. Roger Well, no progress. I haven't had the time. And now I need to finish my first course in the local Moodle to be able to show it, so the data folder it is still located under /var. In some point when I have time -or a full partition, whichever comes first- , I'll try again to move it to /home Thanks to all Ester -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
Regarding comments on Fedora: even most of people use cutting edge thing I will only express BIG disagreement. (with all politeness even usually use ) I'm using Fedora for my production systems for a long long time ago. Without any problems. From F8 if i remember well. cutting edge could be only rawhide. Last few releases from 14 especially there is a lack of ... seriousness about Quality Assurance if I may say. About longer life cycle ... it is easier to upgrade installation nor install latest php on RHEL-based distributions. this is only my point of view. I can not remember when one of my production system lived longer than two years. Nevertheless ... Regarding moodle on Fedora: (I hope that Daniel will read this :) ) there is a several modifications that have to do to make it operate properly - default moodle package make 2 dirs under /var/www/moodle: web and data. data dir have httpd_sys_content_t context. This context prevent writing under data dir. moodle use this dir intensively for writing. - first: change context to httpd_sys_rrw_content_t on data dir and, and for better security change owner and group to apache. - second: change httpd_can_network_connect_db to on, depending on cache model in moodle httpd_can_network_memcache to on, and httpd_can_sendmail to on for sending emails directly from moodle. After these changes moodle works as a charm on Fedora. My first production moodle setup was on F12. Latest on F15. On 14 January 2012 10:37, Roger are...@bigpond.com wrote: Thank you Daniel, Roger and Edik. I will try your suggestions as soon as I can. Regarding the cutting edge thing, this is just my desktop machine, and I love Fedora. The production server will be somewhere else and will not be managed by me (it's a government training project). And surely it won't be Fedora, they have very competent people there to take care of it (most surely Red Hat server but it is not my decision). I only have a development site so I can work locally on developing the materials, so that when production is set up, we will already know what works for the project and what not (I mean for the training). I'll let you know how it goes. Ester Trouble is one can spend a lot of time fixing cutting edge OSes, time that may be better spent on dev work. Been There, Done That. Was going to try F16 on my home pc but the list discussions have kyboshed that because I haven't got the time to play nowadays. Flat out developing Drupal Multi sites for a nonprofit organisation. CentOS is, very stable Fedora. I truly reccomend using it rather than cutting edge apps for development work. I've got Fedora 14, it's smooth and trouble free but as it is now unsupported am moving to CentOS soon. I use CentOS on the server and because I know Fedora it's home territory. It also has the advantage that, because it's so familiar, it's easy to use Virtualbox, VmWare or similar to set up other Osses like F16, Ubuntu. windows, etc to play with and you won't break your workbench apps. You can use xfce or any GUI desktop that suits your needs. As an aside, My daughter developed a Moodle site for a school project and wants her school to move to Moodle but they are fixated on something called a VLA, which is not a patch on Moodle and has few if any of Moodle's capabilities. Please let us know how you are progressing. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
Thank you Daniel, Roger and Edik. I will try your suggestions as soon as I can. Regarding the cutting edge thing, this is just my desktop machine, and I love Fedora. The production server will be somewhere else and will not be managed by me (it's a government training project). And surely it won't be Fedora, they have very competent people there to take care of it (most surely Red Hat server but it is not my decision). I only have a development site so I can work locally on developing the materials, so that when production is set up, we will already know what works for the project and what not (I mean for the training). I'll let you know how it goes. Ester Trouble is one can spend a lot of time fixing cutting edge OSes, time that may be better spent on dev work. Been There, Done That. Was going to try F16 on my home pc but the list discussions have kyboshed that because I haven't got the time to play nowadays. Flat out developing Drupal Multi sites for a nonprofit organisation. CentOS is, very stable Fedora. I truly reccomend using it rather than cutting edge apps for development work. I've got Fedora 14, it's smooth and trouble free but as it is now unsupported am moving to CentOS soon. I use CentOS on the server and because I know Fedora it's home territory. It also has the advantage that, because it's so familiar, it's easy to use Virtualbox, VmWare or similar to set up other Osses like F16, Ubuntu. windows, etc to play with and you won't break your workbench apps. You can use xfce or any GUI desktop that suits your needs. As an aside, My daughter developed a Moodle site for a school project and wants her school to move to Moodle but they are fixated on something called a VLA, which is not a patch on Moodle and has few if any of Moodle's capabilities. Please let us know how you are progressing. Roger -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/12/2012 07:39 AM, Ester Muñoz Aparicio wrote: Hello list members! I'm having a hard time trying to make moodle work on my Fedora 16. Few days ago I got the greatest news: one of my clients is moving to Moodle and that means a lot of work for this year. The Moodle server will be in their headquarters and someone will take care of it, so no problem there. But I have to move 80 and something courses from another CMS to Moodle, and the production server will not be available in a while... I want to setup a local development server to start migrating the courses, and also to maintain them and move ready copies of the courses to production. Yesterday I installed moodle from the repositories, together with a bunch of dependencies, http and php + php modules. Then I fought against moodle for the rest of the day as it appears that it did not allow me to use any directory to be its data directory. I finally solved that this morning with some SElinux magic after few hours of reading. What changes did you have to make to get SELinux to stop complaining? maybe we can make these defaults. I pointed the browser to localhost/moodle and tada! welcome page. Click next. Error, cannot continue, php-zip is missing. I yum search for it, and it is not on any repository. I confirmed it does not exist in any repo, so well, here I am now. Questions: - How can I install php-zip? I am comfortable on Linux, been using Fedora since it exists, on 3 different computers at home. I have made my share of administering them and they all work so far :-) although I have never installed anything from source. So, what would be the easiest way to install php-zip? Can I get somewhere the srpm and build it? Or do I really have to uninstall php and install from scratch with enable zip? This last bit scares me. - Is it possible somehow to make moodle accept as data folder one folder in /home? I couldn't make it work. At the moment it resides in /var/www/moodledata, but I'd like to move it under /home as this partition is much bigger. I'm sure more things will come up, I'd appreciate any and all the help you could offer. Cheers, Ester -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8QQtQACgkQrlYvE4MpobMG+wCgm+uUoa8g2pThH69r+EA24CeF LggAoIKQz2MTsq+orbJmgCgA3/jjDtn8 =c4AR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
Hello May I suggest, if at all possible, 'Forget Cutting Edge Fedora of any version' for business and enterprise application. Cutting edge Fedora is volatile and in my understanding, unsuitable for most real life on going enterprises until it gets to end of life, by then a New Fedora with attendant problems is churned out. There are stable OS options which work well with Moodle. Clients are more important than problematic operating systems. FWIW Roger -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/12/2012 07:39 AM, Ester Muñoz Aparicio wrote: Hello list members! I'm having a hard time trying to make moodle work on my Fedora 16. Few days ago I got the greatest news: one of my clients is moving to Moodle and that means a lot of work for this year. The Moodle server will be in their headquarters and someone will take care of it, so no problem there. But I have to move 80 and something courses from another CMS to Moodle, and the production server will not be available in a while... I want to setup a local development server to start migrating the courses, and also to maintain them and move ready copies of the courses to production. Yesterday I installed moodle from the repositories, together with a bunch of dependencies, http and php + php modules. Then I fought against moodle for the rest of the day as it appears that it did not allow me to use any directory to be its data directory. I finally solved that this morning with some SElinux magic after few hours of reading. What changes did you have to make to get SELinux to stop complaining? maybe we can make these defaults. I pointed the browser to localhost/moodle and tada! welcome page. Click next. Error, cannot continue, php-zip is missing. I yum search for it, and it is not on any repository. I confirmed it does not exist in any repo, so well, here I am now. Questions: - How can I install php-zip? I am comfortable on Linux, been using Fedora since it exists, on 3 different computers at home. I have made my share of administering them and they all work so far :-) although I have never installed anything from source. So, what would be the easiest way to install php-zip? Can I get somewhere the srpm and build it? Or do I really have to uninstall php and install from scratch with enable zip? This last bit scares me. - Is it possible somehow to make moodle accept as data folder one folder in /home? I couldn't make it work. At the moment it resides in /var/www/moodledata, but I'd like to move it under /home as this partition is much bigger. I'm sure more things will come up, I'd appreciate any and all the help you could offer. Cheers, Ester -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk8QQtQACgkQrlYvE4MpobMG+wCgm+uUoa8g2pThH69r+EA24CeF LggAoIKQz2MTsq+orbJmgCgA3/jjDtn8 =c4AR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
Ester, On And now, into the other question - using a subfolder in /home as the data folder for moodle I'll try to read some more, I think it has something to do with http not being allowed to show user directories, but we'll see. You would need to configure your apache config file with /home/moodle/ instead of the default /var/www directory. After that you just chcon recursively the whole directory so it matches the selinux settings of /var/www. Regarding Roger's statement Clients are more important. He's right not in the sense that a cutting edge system is problematic but in that you need stability reliability. I would go with CentOS, Scientific Linux or Debian. Any of them have longer life support than cutting edge systems. Regards, Edik -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
El 14/01/12 05:41, edik landave escribió: Ester, On And now, into the other question - using a subfolder in /home as the data folder for moodle I'll try to read some more, I think it has something to do with http not being allowed to show user directories, but we'll see. You would need to configure your apache config file with /home/moodle/ instead of the default /var/www directory. After that you just chcon recursively the whole directory so it matches the selinux settings of /var/www. Regarding Roger's statement Clients are more important. He's right not in the sense that a cutting edge system is problematic but in that you need stability reliability. I would go with CentOS, Scientific Linux or Debian. Any of them have longer life support than cutting edge systems. Regards, Edik Thank you Daniel, Roger and Edik. I will try your suggestions as soon as I can. Regarding the cutting edge thing, this is just my desktop machine, and I love Fedora. The production server will be somewhere else and will not be managed by me (it's a government training project). And surely it won't be Fedora, they have very competent people there to take care of it (most surely Red Hat server but it is not my decision). I only have a development site so I can work locally on developing the materials, so that when production is set up, we will already know what works for the project and what not (I mean for the training). I'll let you know how it goes. Ester -- Ester Muñoz Aparicio C/ San Isidro 2 Urb. Altos del Cantal 11 - 04638 - Mojácar (Almería) GSM: (+34) 629457700 / (+358) 408019020 memunoz at gmail dot com -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
Error, cannot continue, php-zip is missing. I yum search for it, and it is not on any repository. I confirmed it does not exist in any repo, so well, here I am now. zip extension have been removed from fedora php packages because of an Guidelines violation (about bundled Libraries), and exception was denied for this package. 2 quite simple solutions - pecl install zip (well, will requires a lots -devel stuff) - use remi repo (backport from fedora with zip extension enabled) I understand this are not real good solution... I still think exception should be reconsidered. Remi. -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
Re: Moodle on Fedora 16
El 12/01/12 15:02, Remi escribió: Error, cannot continue, php-zip is missing. I yum search for it, and it is not on any repository. I confirmed it does not exist in any repo, so well, here I am now. zip extension have been removed from fedora php packages because of an Guidelines violation (about bundled Libraries), and exception was denied for this package. Yes, I read about it this morning... both in fedora related and moodle related forums / sites. 2 quite simple solutions - pecl install zip (well, will requires a lots -devel stuff) - use remi repo (backport from fedora with zip extension enabled) Remi! Fantastic! I checked your repo as well BUT looking for php-zip and it isn't there, so I just went on looking for it. I understand this are not real good solution... Now after reading your message, I updated the php I had with the one in your repo, also all the other php related things, and it works! Thank you again for your time, you saved my day And now, into the other question - using a subfolder in /home as the data folder for moodle I'll try to read some more, I think it has something to do with http not being allowed to show user directories, but we'll see. Ester -- users mailing list users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/users Guidelines: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines Have a question? Ask away: http://ask.fedoraproject.org
