Re: evolution processes

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Wed, 2018-04-04 at 00:50 +, home user via users wrote:
> Since Mozilla first made Lightning built in to Thunderbird, and I learned the 
> appointments, etc. I put there are stored locally rather than somewhere on 
> the internet, I've been using that for all reminders, scheduling, etc.  So I 
> have no direct use for what the evolution-data-server is providing.   Is 
> evolution-data-server also providing anything "under the hood"?  ...like 
> interprocess communication, communication between processes and the kernel, 
> or other things not visible to me?  I wouldn't want to "hit myself" with 
> Joe's "Big Hammer", whatever that is.

As I said already, evolution-data-server does provide various services
in a Gnome desktop, not just for Evolution.

You might want to ask further on the Evolution mailing list, where
you're likely to get more informed answers. See:

https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/evolution-list

poc
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Re: evolution processes

[Joe Zeff]

On 04/03/2018 05:50 PM, home user via users wrote:

I wouldn't want to "hit myself" with Joe's "Big Hammer", whatever that is.


Disabling a process just prevents it from starting on its own.  Masking 
it also prevents anything else from starting it, which is why I referred 
to it as a Big Hammer.

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Re: evolution processes

[Joe Zeff]

On 04/03/2018 05:40 PM, home user via users wrote:

Here is the result:
-
bash.34[~]: systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i evolution
bash.35[~]:
-

So I get nothing.  If you think the un-grepped output will help, I can fpaste 
it.



No, I don't use Evolution so I wouldn't know what to look for.  That was 
just my best guess.  Sorry it didn't help.

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Re: evolution processes

[home user via users]

Since Mozilla first made Lightning built in to Thunderbird, and I learned the 
appointments, etc. I put there are stored locally rather than somewhere on the 
internet, I've been using that for all reminders, scheduling, etc.  So I have 
no direct use for what the evolution-data-server is providing.   Is 
evolution-data-server also providing anything "under the hood"?  ...like 
interprocess communication, communication between processes and the kernel, or 
other things not visible to me?  I wouldn't want to "hit myself" with Joe's 
"Big Hammer", whatever that is.
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Re: evolution processes

[home user via users]

Here is the result:
-
bash.34[~]: systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i evolution
bash.35[~]: 
-

So I get nothing.  If you think the un-grepped output will help, I can fpaste 
it.
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Re: evolution processes

[Patrick O'Callaghan]

On Mon, 2018-04-02 at 13:09 -0700, Joe Zeff wrote:
> On 04/02/2018 12:57 PM, home user via users wrote:
> > I'm trying to end the automatic launching of Evolution processes.  How do I 
> > find what's launching them?  The "ps" command tells me the parent of those 
> > processes is "systemd" with a user id of '1', but "man systemd" gives no 
> > hint of a configuration file telling it what processes to launch.
> 
> Try this:
> 
> systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i evolution
> 
> This will tell you what the name of any service involved is, with -i 
> adjusting for the fact that the service name may or may not use a 
> capital letter.  Then, you can disable it, or if you really want to use 
> the Big Hammer, mask it.

These processes are generally part of the evolution-data-server package
and despite the name are not limited to Evolution. They provide various
services such as calendars and alarms via d-bus to Gnome sessions. For
example evolution-alarm-notify is configured in /etc/xdg/autostart.

poc
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Re: evolution processes

[Joe Zeff]

On 04/02/2018 12:57 PM, home user via users wrote:

I'm trying to end the automatic launching of Evolution processes.  How do I find what's launching them?  The 
"ps" command tells me the parent of those processes is "systemd" with a user id of '1', 
but "man systemd" gives no hint of a configuration file telling it what processes to launch.


Try this:

systemctl list-unit-files | grep -i evolution

This will tell you what the name of any service involved is, with -i 
adjusting for the fact that the service name may or may not use a 
capital letter.  Then, you can disable it, or if you really want to use 
the Big Hammer, mask it.

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Re: evolution processes

[home user via users]

bash.6[~]: htop
bash: htop: command not found...

> Try disabling the services to the process
I do not understand this.

I'm trying to end the automatic launching of Evolution processes.  How do I 
find what's launching them?  The "ps" command tells me the parent of those 
processes is "systemd" with a user id of '1', but "man systemd" gives no hint 
of a configuration file telling it what processes to launch.

thanks,
Bill.
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Re: evolution processes

[Girisha A L]

Hi,
Try disabling the services
to the process try top or htop command in the terminal
Reg
Girisha

On Sun 1 Apr, 2018, 7:58 AM Samuel Sieb,  wrote:

> On 03/31/2018 03:02 PM, home user via users wrote:
> > (turning off automatic Evolution)
> > I'm using Gnome.
> > In the "Settings" GUI, I saw no way of controlling automatic starting of
> apps.
> > I have not found any command line equivalent of this Gnome GUI.
> > In the Plasma settings GUI, in the "Personalization" group, I tried the
> Applications icon.  No Evolution.
> > I signed out, and logged back in to Mate, and followed your instructions
> to turn Evolution off.  I rebooted the system and signed in to Gnome.  Six
> Evolution processes were running.
>
> Gnome uses the calendar and addressbook backends even if you don't use
> the evolution mail client.
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Re: evolution processes

[Samuel Sieb]

On 03/31/2018 03:02 PM, home user via users wrote:

(turning off automatic Evolution)
I'm using Gnome.
In the "Settings" GUI, I saw no way of controlling automatic starting of apps.
I have not found any command line equivalent of this Gnome GUI.
In the Plasma settings GUI, in the "Personalization" group, I tried the 
Applications icon.  No Evolution.
I signed out, and logged back in to Mate, and followed your instructions to 
turn Evolution off.  I rebooted the system and signed in to Gnome.  Six 
Evolution processes were running.


Gnome uses the calendar and addressbook backends even if you don't use 
the evolution mail client.

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