Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-28 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Tue, 2020-07-28 at 09:39 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, Jack Craig wrote: > > > > And yet you didn't ... > > > > > > > sorry, i'll continue to work on it.. > > Also, do not quote the boilerplate: +1 poc ___ users mailing

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-28 Thread Tim via users
On Tue, 2020-07-28 at 09:18 -0500, Michael Hennebry wrote: > I suspect that one reason top posting is strongly discouraged > is that it correlates strongly with failure to trim. to which questions. what's being asked and answered, and which answers apply order that the words need to be read to

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, Jack Craig wrote: And yet you didn't ... sorry, i'll continue to work on it.. Also, do not quote the boilerplate: ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-28 Thread Michael Hennebry
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020, Todd Zullinger wrote: Jack Craig wrote: PS: does the list still have a preference for top or bottom posting replies? Thanks for asking! Top posting is (still) strongly discouraged. The preference is to reply below the text to which you are replying, while avoiding

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-25 Thread Jack Craig
On Sat, Jul 25, 2020 at 2:20 AM Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > > Please don't take this the wrong way, but I find that avoiding upper- > case makes emails considerably harder to read, especially regarding the > non-existent word 'i'. I don't want to make an issue of it, just > stating a personal

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-25 Thread Ed Greshko
On 2020-07-25 19:14, Robert McBroom via users wrote: > On 7/25/20 3:35 AM, John Pilkington wrote: >> On 25/07/2020 05:14, Robert McBroom via users wrote: >> >>> RPMFUSION?? lags behind the pace of kernels. Check to see if they have the >>> one for the kernel you are wanting to use. NVIDIA

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-25 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 7/25/20 3:35 AM, John Pilkington wrote: On 25/07/2020 05:14, Robert McBroom via users wrote: RPMFUSION?? lags behind the pace of kernels. Check to see if they have the one for the kernel you are wanting to use. NVIDIA also lags but lately there have been patches for their proprietary

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-25 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 18:13 -0700, Jack Craig wrote: > > And yet you didn't ... > > > > sorry, i'll continue to work on it.. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I find that avoiding upper- case makes emails considerably harder to read, especially regarding the non-existent word 'i'. I

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-25 Thread John Pilkington
On 25/07/2020 05:14, Robert McBroom via users wrote: RPMFUSION  lags behind the pace of kernels. Check to see if they have the one for the kernel you are wanting to use. NVIDIA also lags but lately there have been patches for their proprietary drivers for new kernel series before RPMFUSION

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Robert McBroom via users
On 7/24/20 2:42 PM, Jack Craig wrote: On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:35 AM stan via users mailto:users@lists.fedoraproject.org>> wrote: On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 05:52:58 -0700 Jack Craig mailto:jack.craig.ap...@gmail.com>> wrote: > my new hp elitedesktop loaded w F32 is randomly

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Jack Craig
> > And yet you didn't ... > sorry, i'll continue to work on it.. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: >

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Roger Heflin
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 1:44 PM Jack Craig wrote: > > > > > afaik know power isnt a problem, but on posting did suggest that. > > the 32 GB memory is new. > >> >> Are you running nvidia graphics with nouveau? Because nvidia doesn't > > > sadly i am. what is a solidly supported nvidia

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Patrick O'Callaghan
On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 13:10 -0700, Jack Craig wrote: > Thx Todd, i will comply. > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 1:01 PM Todd Zullinger wrote: > > > Hi, And yet you didn't ... poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/24/20 12:11 PM, Jack Craig wrote: i have an nVidia GK208B. in terms of performance  with open source drivers, does anyone have a recommendation as to a equivalent gfxcard?? I don't know the equivalent for that card, but the AMD cards seem to have lower cost for equivalent performance.

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/24/20 11:45 AM, Jack Craig wrote: how do you setup virtual consoles in this release? Virtual consoles are always enabled. Usually console 1 is the login manager and 2 is the user session. So CTRL-ALT-F3 should get you the first available console, F4 the next and so on.

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Samuel Sieb
On 7/24/20 1:24 PM, Lester M Petrie wrote: Note that if your machine boots in UEFI and you use the rpmfusion binaries, you will have to either turn off UEFI, or learn how to sign the binaries yourself. There may be a way to tell the kernel to go ahead and load the unsigned binaries, but I wasn't

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Jack Craig writes: fresh F32 install crashes in 1-2 day windows, but works great when i am using host; freeze only happens when i log out for the night.. Power management? Try setting up power management to only blank the screen, but not suspend or hibernate. pgp2XA1o_enFW.pgp

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Lester M Petrie
On 7/24/20 4:12 PM, stan via users wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:42:37 -0700 > Jack Craig wrote: > >>> Are you running nvidia graphics with nouveau? Because nvidia >>> doesn't >> >> sadly i am. what is a solidly supported nvidia alternative? geforce >> 730 > > I think the usual solution

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 11:42:37 -0700 Jack Craig wrote: > > Are you running nvidia graphics with nouveau? Because nvidia > > doesn't > > sadly i am. what is a solidly supported nvidia alternative? geforce > 730 I think the usual solution to this is to go to rpmfusion.org and install the

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Jack Craig
Thx Todd, i will comply. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 1:01 PM Todd Zullinger wrote: > Hi, > > Jack Craig wrote: > > -- > Todd > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Todd Zullinger
Hi, Jack Craig wrote: > PS: does the list still have a preference for top or bottom posting replies? Thanks for asking! Top posting is (still) strongly discouraged. The preference is to reply below the text to which you are replying, while avoiding quoting the entire message and replying at

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Jack Craig
i have an nVidia GK208B. in terms of performance with open source drivers, does anyone have a recommendation as to a equivalent gfxcard?? On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:50 AM Jack Craig wrote: > PS: does the list still have a preference for top or bottom posting > replies? > > On Fri, Jul 24,

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Jack Craig
PS: does the list still have a preference for top or bottom posting replies? On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:49 AM Jack Craig wrote: > fresh F32 install crashes in 1-2 day windows, but works great when i am > using host; freeze only happens when i log out for the night.. > > On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Jack Craig
fresh F32 install crashes in 1-2 day windows, but works great when i am using host; freeze only happens when i log out for the night.. On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:42 AM Kevin Becker wrote: > Was it ever working or is this a newly installed system? If it had been > working, I'd try rebooting to

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Jack Craig
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 11:25 AM Roger Heflin wrote: > If you do web browsing then there is a pretty good chance you are > swapping and that is causing the freezing. > > it dies when i am not using it, but firefox is on the console How much ram do you have? > > 32GB Does it recover from the

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Jack Craig
On Fri, Jul 24, 2020 at 10:35 AM stan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 05:52:58 -0700 > Jack Craig wrote: > > > my new hp elitedesktop loaded w F32 is randomly freezing. > > > > not finding log errors, what is the community's debug guidance?? > > No log

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Kevin Becker
Was it ever working or is this a newly installed system? If it had been working, I'd try rebooting to an older kernel. On Fri, 2020-07-24 at 05:52 -0700, Jack Craig wrote: > hi all, > > > > my new hp elitedesktop loaded w F32 is randomly freezing. > > not finding log errors, what is the

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread Roger Heflin
If you do web browsing then there is a pretty good chance you are swapping and that is causing the freezing. How much ram do you have? Does it recover from the freezing? If you have a 2nd device, ssh into the first device and run "top" and leave it running, if the device starts paging top will

Re: second call for enlightenment...

2020-07-24 Thread stan via users
On Fri, 24 Jul 2020 05:52:58 -0700 Jack Craig wrote: > my new hp elitedesktop loaded w F32 is randomly freezing. > > not finding log errors, what is the community's debug guidance?? No log errors suggests kernel / OS freeze, which to me says that it isn't an application problem, but something