Re: Lost work

[Rory O'Farrell]

On Sun, 16 Aug 2020 15:09:40 -0500
Bec Koshak  wrote:

> Your update this morning corrupted 25 pages of my next novel and it now is
> all useless hashtags. Thanks so very much.

With respect, there is no automatic update of OpenOffice - any update must be 
specifically downloaded and installed.  

You may have been hit by a Windows Update, which seem to occur at unspecified 
intervals. and which can corrupt open files.

Alternately the damage may possibly be due to over-hasty power-off of computer 
or closure of laptop lid, before the file housekeeping has been written to disk.

As soon as possible try the methods in this tutorial
See https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=71=85038]
for a Tutorial on  How to find and un-delete AOO temporary files for detailed 
instructions on how to

a) use the Previous Versions utility (W7 and later) to recover previous 
versions of the file (is there something similar on MacOS and Linux?);

b) recover your file as it was when you last opened or saved it, or as it was 
when it was last saved with AutoRecovery;

c) find previous versions of the file in the folder it is located in, but which 
have since been deleted;

d) un-delete the temporary files AOO wrote while you were editing the file, and 
then deleted.  This will recover your file as it was when you last opened or 
you last saved it.

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Re: Lost work

[mick howe]

years ago Mikroslop released MSWord, among its many features was
"Auto-save", its function was to automatically save your work every 20
minutes. When it got to the 6th automatic save it would totally destroy
your work, the file you were editing AND all the automatic backups, as
described in this thread. This behaviour, well known to Microsoft and many
of its users, was retained in all further releases upto and including
Office 97.
In the middle of this period I switched to OS/2 for most of my work. I
battled with the clunky Word Processors of the day until I discovered Star
Office which was functionally equivalent to MS Office except for the faults
like the autosave, which were fixed and forgotten by most.
Over time Star Office was acquired by one of the big players in the
Non-Windows side of the industry (might have been Oracle) and became free
like the air, spawning (I believe) OpenOffice, FreeOffice, LibreOffice and
others.
So if you are like me, disable 'features' like auto-save that give you
exciting distractions and export your work to plain text offline storage,
save to disk and shut your computer down and go have a coffee in the park,
with a friend. It won't slow you down any more than the continual "go to
hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200.00".

On Mon, 17 Aug 2020 at 07:29, Bec Koshak  wrote:

> Your update this morning corrupted 25 pages of my next novel and it now is
> all useless hashtags. Thanks s=
> o very much.
>

RE: Lost work

[Maurice Howe]

This is why we urge users to save copies of files OFTEN (!!), using different 
names (such as with today’s date).  Maurice Howe

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Johnny Rosenberg
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2020 5:59 PM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lost work

Den sön 16 aug. 2020 kl 23:29 skrev Bec Koshak :

> Your update this morning corrupted 25 pages of my next novel and it now is
> all useless hashtags. Thanks s=
> o very much.
>

Just restore it from your daily incremental backups, and you'll only need
to redo the work you did since then, hopefully not all 25 pages.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg

Re: Lost work

[Johnny Rosenberg]

Den sön 16 aug. 2020 kl 23:29 skrev Bec Koshak :

> Your update this morning corrupted 25 pages of my next novel and it now is
> all useless hashtags. Thanks s=
> o very much.
>

Just restore it from your daily incremental backups, and you'll only need
to redo the work you did since then, hopefully not all 25 pages.


Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg

Re: Lost work

[Keith N. McKenna]

Forwarding to OP who is not subscribed.

On 4/15/2019 1:07 PM, Alan B wrote:
> Michael,
> 
> "...file does not exist..." can happen when a file's location changes (so
> the file still exists) but the "recent files" entry in the menu is pointing
> to the last place the file was. So, the exact file name, including the
> path, referred to in the menu doesn't exist any more.
> 
> The message can also happen if the file's name is changed but the file is
> still in the same place. Again, from the point of view of the "recent
> files" entry, that exact file name doesn't exist.
> 
> Did you change the name of the file?
> 
> Did you change the location of the file?
> 
> If you did either of the above then you must use the File > Open command
> from the menu and pick out the renamed or relocated file.
> 
> If you didn't do either then my final suggestion would be to search the
> hard drive of your pc for the file. Presuming you're using Windows 7 or
> later do the following:
> 
> Open powershell and enter the following commands...
> cd \
> get-childitem -filter "yourfilename" -force -recurse -erroraction
> silentlycontinue | select-object FullName
> 
> When the command completes there will either be an empty line (file was not
> found) or the path and name of the file, e.g.
> c:\users\me\documents\temp\somewhere\myfile.odt
> 
> On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Michael Pettit
>  wrote:
> 
>> I have been writing  a book on OpenOffice for several weeks and saving all
>> work as I went.  Yesterday I attempted to resume work and taskbar icon was
>> gone.  I reopened it and attempted to open recent work.  I got a message
>> saying file does not exist.  Multiple attempts to find "mybook" were
>> unsuccessful.  Any way I can recover this?  Thanks.
>>
> 
> 




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Re: Lost work

[Alan B]

Michael,

"...file does not exist..." can happen when a file's location changes (so
the file still exists) but the "recent files" entry in the menu is pointing
to the last place the file was. So, the exact file name, including the
path, referred to in the menu doesn't exist any more.

The message can also happen if the file's name is changed but the file is
still in the same place. Again, from the point of view of the "recent
files" entry, that exact file name doesn't exist.

Did you change the name of the file?

Did you change the location of the file?

If you did either of the above then you must use the File > Open command
from the menu and pick out the renamed or relocated file.

If you didn't do either then my final suggestion would be to search the
hard drive of your pc for the file. Presuming you're using Windows 7 or
later do the following:

Open powershell and enter the following commands...
cd \
get-childitem -filter "yourfilename" -force -recurse -erroraction
silentlycontinue | select-object FullName

When the command completes there will either be an empty line (file was not
found) or the path and name of the file, e.g.
c:\users\me\documents\temp\somewhere\myfile.odt

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 11:18 AM Michael Pettit
 wrote:

> I have been writing  a book on OpenOffice for several weeks and saving all
> work as I went.  Yesterday I attempted to resume work and taskbar icon was
> gone.  I reopened it and attempted to open recent work.  I got a message
> saying file does not exist.  Multiple attempts to find "mybook" were
> unsuccessful.  Any way I can recover this?  Thanks.
>


-- 
Alan Boba
CISSP, CCENT, ITIL v3 Foundations 2011

Re: Lost Work

[Johnny Rosenberg]

2017-04-10 9:09 GMT+02:00 International Aircraft Collection <
i...@iaircraft.co>:

> How is this possible in now a days [image: ☹]i  can not belive it
>
>
> I was actually thinking the same thing: How is it possible nowadays, that
there are still people out there who don't do backups? I just can't believe
it.



Kind regards

Johnny Rosenberg




> Best Regards
>
> James Smith
>
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>
> *Email:* i...@iaircraft.co
> <http://www.iaircraft.co>
> *Skype:* iaircraftc1
> *Web:* www.iaircraft.co
>
>
>
> --
> *From:* Dave <nore...@tasit.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, April 10, 2017 9:31 AM
> *To:* users@openoffice.apache.org; International Aircraft Collection
> *Subject:* Re: Lost Work
>
>  Original Message 
> From: International Aircraft Collection <i...@iaircraft.co>
> <i...@iaircraft.co>
> To: users@openoffice.apache.org <users@openoffice.apache.org>
> <users@openoffice.apache.org>
> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 05:42:41 +
>
> Helllo,
>
>
> I just lost all my work on this page.  All my years work is now gone.
>
>
> Pease help me restore it. Please see attached file
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> James Smith
>
>
> Hi James,
>
> Sorry to say that there is nothing in your file to restore/recover,
> because it contains nothing but 32,768 bytes of zeros. So unless you have a
> backup, your work is permanently lost.
>
> For future reference I suggest:
>
>1. You save your work in ODF (*O*pen*D*ocument *F*ormat ISO/IEC
>26300:2006 standard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODF), not the old MS
>Excel binary format.
>If an ODF file becomes corrupted there is more chance of recovery.
>
>2. If you don't already make backups of your important files, you
>should do so. There are numerous options for backing up computer files and
>many of them are free.
>
> Regards
>
> Dave
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Re: Lost Work

[John Hart]

On 4/9/2017 10:42 PM, International Aircraft Collection wrote:


Helllo,


I just lost all my work on this page.  All my years work is now gone.


Pease help me restore it. Please see attached file


Best Regards

James Smith

Open Office is not good about making sure files aren't corrupted, but
even if it were things go wrong so you need do regular backups.

As for your current problem, if the problem happened recently, there's 
probably a copy of the old file on your drive. Avoid using the computer

and get a file recovery program. It's possible it will be able to find
it.

Good luck

Re: Lost Work

[Andrea Vt]

Am 10.04.2017 um 09:09 schrieb International Aircraft Collection:


How is this possible in now a days ☹i  can not belive it



It is possible, it was possible and it will be possible, if users don't 
make any backups :-)

Re: Lost Work

[International Aircraft Collection]

How is this possible in now a days [☹] i  can not belive it


Best Regards

James Smith

Cel: +1 801 675 4496
Office +1 808 824 3437 Ext: 102

Email: i...@iaircraft.co

<http://www.iaircraft.co>
Skype: iaircraftc1
Web: www.iaircraft.co<http://www.iaircraft.co/>




From: Dave <nore...@tasit.net>
Sent: Monday, April 10, 2017 9:31 AM
To: users@openoffice.apache.org; International Aircraft Collection
Subject: Re: Lost Work

 Original Message 
From: International Aircraft Collection 
<i...@iaircraft.co><mailto:i...@iaircraft.co>
To: users@openoffice.apache.org<mailto:users@openoffice.apache.org> 
<users@openoffice.apache.org><mailto:users@openoffice.apache.org>
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 05:42:41 +


Helllo,


I just lost all my work on this page.  All my years work is now gone.


Pease help me restore it. Please see attached file


Best Regards

James Smith

Hi James,

Sorry to say that there is nothing in your file to restore/recover, because it 
contains nothing but 32,768 bytes of zeros. So unless you have a backup, your 
work is permanently lost.

For future reference I suggest:

  1.  You save your work in ODF (OpenDocument Format ISO/IEC 26300:2006 
standard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODF), not the old MS Excel binary format.
If an ODF file becomes corrupted there is more chance of recovery.

  2.  If you don't already make backups of your important files, you should do 
so. There are numerous options for backing up computer files and many of them 
are free.

Regards

Dave

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Re: Lost Work

[Dave]

 Original Message 
From: International Aircraft Collection 
To: users@openoffice.apache.org 
Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2017 05:42:41 +

> Helllo,
>
>
> I just lost all my work on this page.  All my years work is now gone.
>
>
> Pease help me restore it. Please see attached file
>
>
> Best Regards
>
> James Smith

Hi James,

Sorry to say that there is nothing in your file to restore/recover,
because it contains nothing but 32,768 bytes of zeros. So unless you
have a backup, your work is permanently lost.

For future reference I suggest:

 1. You save your work in ODF (*_O_*pen*_D_*ocument *_F_*ormat ISO/IEC
26300:2006 standard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ODF), not the old
MS Excel binary format.
If an ODF file becomes corrupted there is more chance of recovery.

 2. If you don't already make backups of your important files, you
should do so. There are numerous options for backing up computer
files and many of them are free.

Regards

Dave

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