Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 4.1: clone option of importing from VMware

[Arik Hadas]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 5:18 PM, Gianluca Cecchi 
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Arik Hadas  wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>> I didn't refer to it (see above), but for sure it could be a nice add-on
>>> feature to provide.
>>>
>>
>> Actually there is a progress bar for the phase of disks copying (after
>> the 'initialization' phase) in the 'status' column of the virtual machines
>> tab.
>>
>
> Ah, ok... I retried with another VM, monitoring this time the behavior and
> I see at  15:45 the message
>
> Starting to convert Vm T-RHEL5-64
>
> Then up to 16:04 it remains in "Initializing"
> Only at 16:04 it begins the copying phase, with a "qemu-img convert"
> command at host side that starts copying from an image in /var/tmp to the
> chosen storage domain with an elapsed of about 3 minutes and final
> completion
> Previously I missed the final minutes of the process, so that I noticed
> only the "Initializing" Status step and the final "Down" Status of the
> VM
>
>
>>
>>>
>>> And what about the "clone" option? In what is it different from no
>>> selection of it?
>>>
>>
>> That means that the VM will be imported as a cloned VM - have different
>> mac addresses, different identifiers for the disks, different identifier
>> for the VM.
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
> Ah, ok.
> This explains why I get this message while importing a VM without
> selecting "clone":
>
> VM T-RHEL7 has MAC address(es) 00:50:56:b0:0c:7d, which is/are out of its
> MAC pool definitions.
> ?
> In this case to assign an oVirt MAC between the setup ones, only way is to
> remove and add a new one or what?
>

After you imported the VM, yes.
During import, you can use the 'clone' option as you did before - it should
be fine as long as you're willing to have different identifiers (in most
cases, these identifiers have no functional implications).


>
> Gianluca
>
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 4.1: clone option of importing from VMware

[Gianluca Cecchi]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:51 PM, Arik Hadas  wrote:

>
>>
>> I didn't refer to it (see above), but for sure it could be a nice add-on
>> feature to provide.
>>
>
> Actually there is a progress bar for the phase of disks copying (after the
> 'initialization' phase) in the 'status' column of the virtual machines tab.
>

Ah, ok... I retried with another VM, monitoring this time the behavior and
I see at  15:45 the message

Starting to convert Vm T-RHEL5-64

Then up to 16:04 it remains in "Initializing"
Only at 16:04 it begins the copying phase, with a "qemu-img convert"
command at host side that starts copying from an image in /var/tmp to the
chosen storage domain with an elapsed of about 3 minutes and final
completion
Previously I missed the final minutes of the process, so that I noticed
only the "Initializing" Status step and the final "Down" Status of the
VM


>
>>
>> And what about the "clone" option? In what is it different from no
>> selection of it?
>>
>
> That means that the VM will be imported as a cloned VM - have different
> mac addresses, different identifiers for the disks, different identifier
> for the VM.
>
>
>>
>>
Ah, ok.
This explains why I get this message while importing a VM without selecting
"clone":

VM T-RHEL7 has MAC address(es) 00:50:56:b0:0c:7d, which is/are out of its
MAC pool definitions.
?
In this case to assign an oVirt MAC between the setup ones, only way is to
remove and add a new one or what?

Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 4.1: clone option of importing from VMware

[Arik Hadas]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:48 PM, Gianluca Cecchi 
wrote:

> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I'm doing some tests to import VMs from VMware and verify functionality.
>>> Great newcomer in 4.1
>>>
>>
>> It was added in 4.0, I believe.
>>
>
> Ah, ok. Never tried before from web admin gui.
> I confused in release notes of 4.1.0 with the feature:
> BZ 1294629 Improve loading external VMs speed
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> And after about 20 minutes (the original VM has only one thin
>>> provisioned disk 4Gb/8Gb) the lock goes away and the status of the VM
>>> becomes down and in events pane I get only now the sequence:
>>>
>>
>>> Feb 27, 2017 2:20:42 PM Vm T-RHEL6-64 was imported successfully to Data
>>> Center Default, Cluster Default
>>>
>>
>> And this is the end of the task.
>>
>
> Yes, I mean that during the 20 minutes elapsed time, it results that no
> tasks are in execution.
> Is this correct because it is considered a sort of external task or is it
> a bug?
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>> It seems to me not so clear experience for the user importing,
>>> especially I imagine in case of more than one import and with big disks.
>>>
>>
>> I guess as always, we could try to improve with progress bar...
>>
>
> I didn't refer to it (see above), but for sure it could be a nice add-on
> feature to provide.
>

Actually there is a progress bar for the phase of disks copying (after the
'initialization' phase) in the 'status' column of the virtual machines tab.


>
> And what about the "clone" option? In what is it different from no
> selection of it?
>

That means that the VM will be imported as a cloned VM - have different mac
addresses, different identifiers for the disks, different identifier for
the VM.


>
> Thanks,
> Gianluca
>
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 4.1: clone option of importing from VMware

[Gianluca Cecchi]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Yaniv Kaul wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM Gianluca Cecchi wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> I'm doing some tests to import VMs from VMware and verify functionality.
>> Great newcomer in 4.1
>>
>
> It was added in 4.0, I believe.
>

Ah, ok. Never tried before from web admin gui.
I confused in release notes of 4.1.0 with the feature:
BZ 1294629 Improve loading external VMs speed



>
>
>> And after about 20 minutes (the original VM has only one thin provisioned
>> disk 4Gb/8Gb) the lock goes away and the status of the VM becomes down and
>> in events pane I get only now the sequence:
>>
>
>> Feb 27, 2017 2:20:42 PM Vm T-RHEL6-64 was imported successfully to Data
>> Center Default, Cluster Default
>>
>
> And this is the end of the task.
>

Yes, I mean that during the 20 minutes elapsed time, it results that no
tasks are in execution.
Is this correct because it is considered a sort of external task or is it a
bug?



>
>
>> It seems to me not so clear experience for the user importing, especially
>> I imagine in case of more than one import and with big disks.
>>
>
> I guess as always, we could try to improve with progress bar...
>

I didn't refer to it (see above), but for sure it could be a nice add-on
feature to provide.

And what about the "clone" option? In what is it different from no
selection of it?

Thanks,
Gianluca
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Re: [ovirt-users] oVirt 4.1: clone option of importing from VMware

[Yaniv Kaul]

On Mon, Feb 27, 2017 at 3:36 PM Gianluca Cecchi 
wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm doing some tests to import VMs from VMware and verify functionality.
> Great newcomer in 4.1
>

It was added in 4.0, I believe.


> In my initial test, ESXi host is 5.5 and vcsa 6.0U2
>
> What does it mean the "clone" check box I can select in the last screen
> before running the import?
>
> Also, after pressing OK it seems nothing is then running, apart the symbol
> that VM is locked and its status is "initializing"
> See here:
>
> https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwoPbcrMv8mvYWhwMllPSFRnakU/view?usp=sharing
>
> BTW: the alerts are not related to the import...
>
> The tasks(N) header shows tasks(0) as if no task in execution
>
> In events I have:
> Feb 27, 2017 2:01:35 PM Starting to convert Vm T-RHEL6-64
>

That 'Starting' is kind of a hint a task is executing.


> Feb 27, 2017 2:01:18 PM Starting to import Vm T-RHEL6-64 to Data Center
> Default, Cluster Default
>

Here again.


> Feb 27, 2017 2:01:18 PM Add-Disk operation of 'T-RHEL6-64' was initiated
> by the system.
>

And 'was initiated' means there is a task.


>
> From hypervisor point of view I see:
>
> [root@ovmsrv06 vdsm]# pstree 18777
> vdsm─┬─3*[ioprocess───5*[{ioprocess}]]
>  ├─tee
>  ├─virt-v2v─┬─qemu-kvm───5*[{qemu-kvm}]
>  │  └─virt-v2v
>  └─50*[{vdsm}]
> [root@ovmsrv06 vdsm]#
>
> And after about 20 minutes (the original VM has only one thin provisioned
> disk 4Gb/8Gb) the lock goes away and the status of the VM becomes down and
> in events pane I get only now the sequence:
>
> Feb 27, 2017 2:20:42 PM Vm T-RHEL6-64 was imported successfully to Data
> Center Default, Cluster Default
>

And this is the end of the task.


> It seems to me not so clear experience for the user importing, especially
> I imagine in case of more than one import and with big disks.
>

I guess as always, we could try to improve with progress bar...
Y.


>
> Thanks,
> Gianluca
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