RE:Component working in Console not as Service
On 01.08.2019 13:02, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: > On 31.07.2019 20:26, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: >> On 31.07.2019 14:49, Mark Thomas wrote: >>> On 31/07/2019 13:03, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: On 31/07/2019 12:48, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: > I was hoping to obtain some assistance. We have used a library to convert > MS Office documents (docx and pptx) to PDF. > > This works perfectly in the development environment and also when running > Tomcat in a console window. > > The moment we run Tomcat as a service this specific component gives and > error. Unfortunately the error is non-specific so we cannot troubleshoot > the origin. > > My question is, what would be the difference in running Tomcat as a > Service as oppose to running it in Console that might cause this problem? Tomcat runs as a different user with different access permissions, particularly to network shares. You probably want to set up a Tomcat specific user with the appropriate permissions. Mark Thank you Mark for the quick response. My first thought was permissions also, however I have attempted to run it with local, domain and system user, however the same result. Both local and domain user was part of the local admin group. Is there anything else I can check? >>> >>> Are you sure the DDL is being loaded? That normally needs explicit >>> configuration to point the JVM at the right path. >>> >>> Look at the docs for for >>> org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener and configure it >>> to dump everything. Then compare the console start with the service start. >>> >> >> What is also different when Tomcat runs as a Service or in a console, is >> where the JVM that runs tomcat, picks up its environment and command-line >> switches. >> If you are not familiar with this matter, this may help : >> verbose explanation : >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/16LxnNI0vUhSt5WCJq8xkkulFgI8kkE6jU6nNTTW >> H >> 8Edc36MeIASjeU6nUbSA_zE1ivz6c5TGLRI5-1Pf6_zuQkUOEaw8utUuFpuUnCrCLIeiS >> 7 >> dhXxvll2giIW3fHOBe1_gpGzPiGufx1vE50Dzs9UUSm5Rc1iB9G9UILBUZ6dhLaGa3vAE >> U >> t8bmVvfaGcwlM8tmxid6q8PydRkxPkVHu_02IIO1w4c2yyYp4O9vhwKqUq1OeApnpAj1c >> 0 >> e2G-t0fT-lxYS5ofL92-i2ZpXEQk9bpTnCXLs0bT0wnFZYQsrFJZ8GQQckDdY-8eBWc94 >> 6 >> XK9enjcTwIMehHfk013zuw/https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2F >> d >> isplay%2FTOMCAT%2FWindows#Windows-Q11 >> Official page : >> https://secure-web.cisco.com/1BYhcwXb2ofGRuNXu8K-JZBV4sFyWUkMe0XaNSYX >> c >> ey93JyiAhWVVK1zM0iJzrwal62xEQvv7bWZTbZIMuGTP_S_2qZdoXT4tLt78CPHzpOJND >> 9 >> 6h28X7R95_fnapxZO1zDvqNUPkrh23BUmyvnfKvqfef2panME2Z0l8GOvPAP4lZdyaSwg >> c >> D0L2TM7oClsAQ4TPAeM8hVEtWCsJsoeQjwh7m4IHyvpPDfPDJ28gRGkBoLQWETM9alb7R >> H >> jMtvclQ7-lMp3IYS9kOzQBDVHACmGkdIqgx-XAWNBjM6Wce6IoYmAeiwIgYmPZ0oClxso >> v >> Fcb1-dH06wAs3t938YQVvw/https%3A%2F%2Ftomcat.apache.org%2Ftomcat-8.5-d >> o >> c%2Fwindows-service-howto.html >> >> (Perhaps the application expects some value to be set somewhere..) >> >> Also, above you mention "Unfortunately the error is non-specific..", but >> maybe you want to copy the error message here, so that someone else can have >> a look at it ? >> Maybe it triggers some recognition by another user having had the same issue >> with that library. >> >> >> Quickly answering both posts from Mark and Andrei: >> >> Mark: Yes, the DLL is being loaded. There is error handling in place should >> it be unsuccessful in accessing any of the components. >> I also compared the output of the VersionLoggerListners: >> When running as a service and executing the Tomcat8.exe from cmd the >> information is the same, however the functionality only works when the .exe >> is run from cmd. >> When using the Startup.bat script to start the server there are three less >> entries and one extra: >> >> Entries not included: >> 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.398 INFO [main] >> org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line >> argument: exit >> 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.399 INFO [main] >> org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line >> argument: -Xms128m >> 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.399 INFO [main] >> org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line >> argument: -Xmx256m >> >> Entry included but not in the other two: >> 31-Jul-2019 19:37:11.434 INFO [main] >> org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line >> argument: -Djdk.tls.ephemeralDHKeySize=2048 >> >> Again using this method to run the server allows the functionality to work. >> >> Andre: From what I could see, everything is loaded the same as all of them >> uses the sae JVM. Unless I missed something...which is entirely possible. >> The zeonpadpdf we are using consists of 3 components, 2 .jar's and 1 >> .dll. zeonpadpdf.jar, jacob-1.18.jar, jacob-1.18-x64.dll The error we are >> receiving states: "Conversion error" and is generated from the >> zeonpadpdf.jar which handles the
RE:Component working in Console not as Service
On 31.07.2019 20:26, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: > On 31.07.2019 14:49, Mark Thomas wrote: >> On 31/07/2019 13:03, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 31/07/2019 12:48, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: I was hoping to obtain some assistance. We have used a library to convert MS Office documents (docx and pptx) to PDF. This works perfectly in the development environment and also when running Tomcat in a console window. The moment we run Tomcat as a service this specific component gives and error. Unfortunately the error is non-specific so we cannot troubleshoot the origin. My question is, what would be the difference in running Tomcat as a Service as oppose to running it in Console that might cause this problem? >>> >>> Tomcat runs as a different user with different access permissions, >>> particularly to network shares. >>> >>> You probably want to set up a Tomcat specific user with the appropriate >>> permissions. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> Thank you Mark for the quick response. >>> >>> My first thought was permissions also, however I have attempted to run it >>> with local, domain and system user, however the same result. >>> >>> Both local and domain user was part of the local admin group. Is there >>> anything else I can check? >> >> Are you sure the DDL is being loaded? That normally needs explicit >> configuration to point the JVM at the right path. >> >> Look at the docs for for >> org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener and configure it to >> dump everything. Then compare the console start with the service start. >> > > What is also different when Tomcat runs as a Service or in a console, is > where the JVM that runs tomcat, picks up its environment and command-line > switches. > If you are not familiar with this matter, this may help : > verbose explanation : > https://secure-web.cisco.com/16LxnNI0vUhSt5WCJq8xkkulFgI8kkE6jU6nNTTWH > 8Edc36MeIASjeU6nUbSA_zE1ivz6c5TGLRI5-1Pf6_zuQkUOEaw8utUuFpuUnCrCLIeiS7 > dhXxvll2giIW3fHOBe1_gpGzPiGufx1vE50Dzs9UUSm5Rc1iB9G9UILBUZ6dhLaGa3vAEU > t8bmVvfaGcwlM8tmxid6q8PydRkxPkVHu_02IIO1w4c2yyYp4O9vhwKqUq1OeApnpAj1c0 > e2G-t0fT-lxYS5ofL92-i2ZpXEQk9bpTnCXLs0bT0wnFZYQsrFJZ8GQQckDdY-8eBWc946 > XK9enjcTwIMehHfk013zuw/https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fd > isplay%2FTOMCAT%2FWindows#Windows-Q11 > Official page : > https://secure-web.cisco.com/1BYhcwXb2ofGRuNXu8K-JZBV4sFyWUkMe0XaNSYXc > ey93JyiAhWVVK1zM0iJzrwal62xEQvv7bWZTbZIMuGTP_S_2qZdoXT4tLt78CPHzpOJND9 > 6h28X7R95_fnapxZO1zDvqNUPkrh23BUmyvnfKvqfef2panME2Z0l8GOvPAP4lZdyaSwgc > D0L2TM7oClsAQ4TPAeM8hVEtWCsJsoeQjwh7m4IHyvpPDfPDJ28gRGkBoLQWETM9alb7RH > jMtvclQ7-lMp3IYS9kOzQBDVHACmGkdIqgx-XAWNBjM6Wce6IoYmAeiwIgYmPZ0oClxsov > Fcb1-dH06wAs3t938YQVvw/https%3A%2F%2Ftomcat.apache.org%2Ftomcat-8.5-do > c%2Fwindows-service-howto.html > > (Perhaps the application expects some value to be set somewhere..) > > Also, above you mention "Unfortunately the error is non-specific..", but > maybe you want to copy the error message here, so that someone else can have > a look at it ? > Maybe it triggers some recognition by another user having had the same issue > with that library. > > > Quickly answering both posts from Mark and Andrei: > > Mark: Yes, the DLL is being loaded. There is error handling in place should > it be unsuccessful in accessing any of the components. > I also compared the output of the VersionLoggerListners: > When running as a service and executing the Tomcat8.exe from cmd the > information is the same, however the functionality only works when the .exe > is run from cmd. > When using the Startup.bat script to start the server there are three less > entries and one extra: > > Entries not included: > 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.398 INFO [main] > org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line > argument: exit > 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.399 INFO [main] > org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line > argument: -Xms128m > 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.399 INFO [main] > org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line > argument: -Xmx256m > > Entry included but not in the other two: > 31-Jul-2019 19:37:11.434 INFO [main] > org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line > argument: -Djdk.tls.ephemeralDHKeySize=2048 > > Again using this method to run the server allows the functionality to work. > > Andre: From what I could see, everything is loaded the same as all of them > uses the sae JVM. Unless I missed something...which is entirely possible. > The zeonpadpdf we are using consists of 3 components, 2 .jar's and 1 > .dll. zeonpadpdf.jar, jacob-1.18.jar, jacob-1.18-x64.dll The error we are > receiving states: "Conversion error" and is generated from the zeonpadpdf.jar > which handles the conversion from .docx to pdf. > This is also the error in the stack trace which doesn't provide much more > information. > Based on what I could find in the zeonpadpdf.jar this is generic error > mes
RE:Component working in Console not as Service
On 31.07.2019 14:49, Mark Thomas wrote: > On 31/07/2019 13:03, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: >> >> >> On 31/07/2019 12:48, Potgieter, Carlo wrote: >>> I was hoping to obtain some assistance. We have used a library to convert >>> MS Office documents (docx and pptx) to PDF. >>> >>> This works perfectly in the development environment and also when running >>> Tomcat in a console window. >>> >>> The moment we run Tomcat as a service this specific component gives and >>> error. Unfortunately the error is non-specific so we cannot troubleshoot >>> the origin. >>> >>> My question is, what would be the difference in running Tomcat as a Service >>> as oppose to running it in Console that might cause this problem? >> >> Tomcat runs as a different user with different access permissions, >> particularly to network shares. >> >> You probably want to set up a Tomcat specific user with the appropriate >> permissions. >> >> Mark >> >> Thank you Mark for the quick response. >> >> My first thought was permissions also, however I have attempted to run it >> with local, domain and system user, however the same result. >> >> Both local and domain user was part of the local admin group. Is there >> anything else I can check? > > Are you sure the DDL is being loaded? That normally needs explicit > configuration to point the JVM at the right path. > > Look at the docs for for > org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener and configure it to > dump everything. Then compare the console start with the service start. > What is also different when Tomcat runs as a Service or in a console, is where the JVM that runs tomcat, picks up its environment and command-line switches. If you are not familiar with this matter, this may help : verbose explanation : https://secure-web.cisco.com/16LxnNI0vUhSt5WCJq8xkkulFgI8kkE6jU6nNTTWH8Edc36MeIASjeU6nUbSA_zE1ivz6c5TGLRI5-1Pf6_zuQkUOEaw8utUuFpuUnCrCLIeiS7dhXxvll2giIW3fHOBe1_gpGzPiGufx1vE50Dzs9UUSm5Rc1iB9G9UILBUZ6dhLaGa3vAEUt8bmVvfaGcwlM8tmxid6q8PydRkxPkVHu_02IIO1w4c2yyYp4O9vhwKqUq1OeApnpAj1c0e2G-t0fT-lxYS5ofL92-i2ZpXEQk9bpTnCXLs0bT0wnFZYQsrFJZ8GQQckDdY-8eBWc946XK9enjcTwIMehHfk013zuw/https%3A%2F%2Fcwiki.apache.org%2Fconfluence%2Fdisplay%2FTOMCAT%2FWindows#Windows-Q11 Official page : https://secure-web.cisco.com/1BYhcwXb2ofGRuNXu8K-JZBV4sFyWUkMe0XaNSYXcey93JyiAhWVVK1zM0iJzrwal62xEQvv7bWZTbZIMuGTP_S_2qZdoXT4tLt78CPHzpOJND96h28X7R95_fnapxZO1zDvqNUPkrh23BUmyvnfKvqfef2panME2Z0l8GOvPAP4lZdyaSwgcD0L2TM7oClsAQ4TPAeM8hVEtWCsJsoeQjwh7m4IHyvpPDfPDJ28gRGkBoLQWETM9alb7RHjMtvclQ7-lMp3IYS9kOzQBDVHACmGkdIqgx-XAWNBjM6Wce6IoYmAeiwIgYmPZ0oClxsovFcb1-dH06wAs3t938YQVvw/https%3A%2F%2Ftomcat.apache.org%2Ftomcat-8.5-doc%2Fwindows-service-howto.html (Perhaps the application expects some value to be set somewhere..) Also, above you mention "Unfortunately the error is non-specific..", but maybe you want to copy the error message here, so that someone else can have a look at it ? Maybe it triggers some recognition by another user having had the same issue with that library. Quickly answering both posts from Mark and Andrei: Mark: Yes, the DLL is being loaded. There is error handling in place should it be unsuccessful in accessing any of the components. I also compared the output of the VersionLoggerListners: When running as a service and executing the Tomcat8.exe from cmd the information is the same, however the functionality only works when the .exe is run from cmd. When using the Startup.bat script to start the server there are three less entries and one extra: Entries not included: 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.398 INFO [main] org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line argument: exit 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.399 INFO [main] org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line argument: -Xms128m 31-Jul-2019 19:34:37.399 INFO [main] org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line argument: -Xmx256m Entry included but not in the other two: 31-Jul-2019 19:37:11.434 INFO [main] org.apache.catalina.startup.VersionLoggerListener.log Command line argument: -Djdk.tls.ephemeralDHKeySize=2048 Again using this method to run the server allows the functionality to work. Andre: From what I could see, everything is loaded the same as all of them uses the sae JVM. Unless I missed something...which is entirely possible. The zeonpadpdf we are using consists of 3 components, 2 .jar's and 1 .dll. zeonpadpdf.jar, jacob-1.18.jar, jacob-1.18-x64.dll The error we are receiving states: "Conversion error" and is generated from the zeonpadpdf.jar which handles the conversion from .docx to pdf. This is also the error in the stack trace which doesn't provide much more information. Based on what I could find in the zeonpadpdf.jar this is generic error message. Hope that gives some more context. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: users-h...@to
RE:Component working in Console not as Service
On 31/07/2019 12:48, Potgieter, Carlo wrote:
> I was hoping to obtain some assistance. We have used a library to convert MS
> Office documents (docx and pptx) to PDF.
>
> This works perfectly in the development environment and also when running
> Tomcat in a console window.
>
> The moment we run Tomcat as a service this specific component gives and
> error. Unfortunately the error is non-specific so we cannot troubleshoot the
> origin.
>
> My question is, what would be the difference in running Tomcat as a Service
> as oppose to running it in Console that might cause this problem?
Tomcat runs as a different user with different access permissions, particularly
to network shares.
You probably want to set up a Tomcat specific user with the appropriate
permissions.
Mark
Thank you Mark for the quick response.
My first thought was permissions also, however I have attempted to run it with
local, domain and system user, however the same result.
Both local and domain user was part of the local admin group. Is there anything
else I can check?
Carlo
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