Re: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?

2010-10-08 Thread Pid
On 07/10/2010 18:07, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:31 AM
>> To: Tomcat Users List
>> Subject: Re: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?
>>
>> On 06/10/2010 15:16, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
>>> I agree with Mark, upgrade your Tomcat to a supported rev.
>>> If possible, go to the latest 6.0, otherwise, 5.5.x would be good,
>> but
>>> it will become unsupported shortly when 7.0.x becomes official.
>>
>> Less supported maybe. The rough guide is:
>> - 7.0.x - enhancements, bug fixes & security fixes
>> - 6.0.x - bug fixes & security fixes
>> - 5.5.x - security fixes
>>
>> But that is only a very rough guide. A lot of enhancements are making
>> it
>> into 6.0.x and 5.5.x is still getting bug fixes.
>>
>> The last time the devs officially declared something unsupported
>> (4.1.x)
>> there was a 12 month notice period and I assume the same would be true
>> when 5.5.x finally reaches end of life.
>>
>> Mark
>>
> 
> Thanks for the update Mark.
> As a heavy 5.5.x user, that is reassuring.

5.5 -> 6.0 isn't a big deal in my experience, and doesn't seem to be
from the lack of complaints here on the list.


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RE: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?

2010-10-07 Thread Jeffrey Janner
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 9:31 AM
> To: Tomcat Users List
> Subject: Re: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?
> 
> On 06/10/2010 15:16, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> > I agree with Mark, upgrade your Tomcat to a supported rev.
> > If possible, go to the latest 6.0, otherwise, 5.5.x would be good,
> but
> > it will become unsupported shortly when 7.0.x becomes official.
> 
> Less supported maybe. The rough guide is:
> - 7.0.x - enhancements, bug fixes & security fixes
> - 6.0.x - bug fixes & security fixes
> - 5.5.x - security fixes
> 
> But that is only a very rough guide. A lot of enhancements are making
> it
> into 6.0.x and 5.5.x is still getting bug fixes.
> 
> The last time the devs officially declared something unsupported
> (4.1.x)
> there was a 12 month notice period and I assume the same would be true
> when 5.5.x finally reaches end of life.
> 
> Mark
> 

Thanks for the update Mark.
As a heavy 5.5.x user, that is reassuring.
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Re: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Thomas
On 06/10/2010 15:16, Jeffrey Janner wrote:
> I agree with Mark, upgrade your Tomcat to a supported rev.
> If possible, go to the latest 6.0, otherwise, 5.5.x would be good, but
> it will become unsupported shortly when 7.0.x becomes official.

Less supported maybe. The rough guide is:
- 7.0.x - enhancements, bug fixes & security fixes
- 6.0.x - bug fixes & security fixes
- 5.5.x - security fixes

But that is only a very rough guide. A lot of enhancements are making it
into 6.0.x and 5.5.x is still getting bug fixes.

The last time the devs officially declared something unsupported (4.1.x)
there was a 12 month notice period and I assume the same would be true
when 5.5.x finally reaches end of life.

Mark

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RE: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?

2010-10-06 Thread Jeffrey Janner
I agree with Mark, upgrade your Tomcat to a supported rev.
If possible, go to the latest 6.0, otherwise, 5.5.x would be good, but
it will become unsupported shortly when 7.0.x becomes official.
I currently run production 5.5.29 in your environment, but using
standalone servers, not clustered.  Therefore, I can't offer any advice
on the failover aspects. FTR: I use Java 1.6.0_20 64-bit for the JVM.
For a standalone environment, this setup runs just fine.
If you do stick with 5.0.28, you would need to get the 64-bit runtimes
to replace the 32-bit versions that no doubt come with the 5.0.28
installer.  Search the archives, I KNOW there are discussions on how to
do that successfully.  Or you can stick with the 32-bit runtimes and use
a 32-bit java, but that kinda defeats the purpose of using a 64-bit OS
doesn't it.
Jeff

> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Thomas [mailto:ma...@apache.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 4:38 AM
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> Subject: Re: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?
> 
> On 06/10/2010 10:24, Stefan Rainer wrote:
> > we're planning to run Tomcat Apache 5.0.28 on a MS Server 2008 R2
> 64Bit Ent.
> > Failover Cluster.
> >
> > Does anyone has productive experience on that? Does it work, How
good
> does
> > it work, .?
> 
> Sorry, no recent MS cluster experience here. I have some horror
stories
> from Windows 2000 (or was it NT?) days but things have moved on rather
> since then.
> 
> > Things to be aware of?
> 
> 5.0.28 has a whole bunch of known, unpatched security vulnerabilities.
> Take a look at [1]. I'd really suggest starting with 6.0.29. Key stuff
> you need to know is in the migration guide [2]. If you find anything
> additional, let us know and we can add it.
> 
> Mark
> 
> [1] http://tomcat.apache.org/security-5.html
> [2] http://tomcat.apache.org/migration.html
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Re: Tomcat auf MS Cluster?

2010-10-06 Thread Mark Thomas
On 06/10/2010 10:24, Stefan Rainer wrote:
> we're planning to run Tomcat Apache 5.0.28 on a MS Server 2008 R2 64Bit Ent.
> Failover Cluster.
> 
> Does anyone has productive experience on that? Does it work, How good does
> it work, .?

Sorry, no recent MS cluster experience here. I have some horror stories
from Windows 2000 (or was it NT?) days but things have moved on rather
since then.

> Things to be aware of?

5.0.28 has a whole bunch of known, unpatched security vulnerabilities.
Take a look at [1]. I'd really suggest starting with 6.0.29. Key stuff
you need to know is in the migration guide [2]. If you find anything
additional, let us know and we can add it.

Mark

[1] http://tomcat.apache.org/security-5.html
[2] http://tomcat.apache.org/migration.html

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Tomcat auf MS Cluster?

2010-10-06 Thread Stefan Rainer
Hello,

 

we're planning to run Tomcat Apache 5.0.28 on a MS Server 2008 R2 64Bit Ent.
Failover Cluster.

Does anyone has productive experience on that? Does it work, How good does
it work, .?

Things to be aware of?

 

(If required, Tomcat 6.* is possible but we'd prefer Tomcat 5.0.28 to start
this project because

we've most experience and know how with that one. Updating Tomcat later on
is no big deal)

 

Thank you for any inputs!

 

// Stefan