Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
Pavel wrote: Ricardo, I did not test the issue on different app servers and databases. However, underlying reasons for this out of memory make me strongly believe that changing DB/AS will make little or no difference. Pavel Hi Pavel, Based on your message (almost your message by itself)... http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/HowToSolveAJavaHeapMemoryError I hope others improves it. Best, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
Ricardo, I did not test the issue on different app servers and databases. However, underlying reasons for this out of memory make me strongly believe that changing DB/AS will make little or no difference. Pavel On Feb 17, 2008 12:09 AM, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pavel wrote: Here is my version of what happens in QA. * What does out of memory error mean? - Java virtual machine (which runs tomcat which runs xwiki) has run out of heap space and cannot allocate anything anymore. * Is it related to MySQL packet size? - No * Why this error happens? - Because application needs more memory than JMV is allowed to use. * How is that related to attachments? - The way xwiki handles attachments is, well, not perfect. Somewhat related thread is http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/users/2007-November/009362.html * So what can you do? - a) Use -Xms and -Xmx java parameters to increase heap size. - b) Implement and contribute to XWiki effective attachment handling. * What are the -Xms and -Xmx params? - -Xms tells java the initial heap size, -Xmx controls max size. The latter is of special interest in this case and can be increased. Pavel Hi Pavel, Do you know if this heap size issue happens just working with Tomcat as servlet container or it is generalizable to other application servers? It could be advisable clarify that this FAQ applies just to XWiki running on a Tomcat/MySQL server. I would add a link to heap, something as http://dictionary.zdnet.com/definition/heap.html. I am not a programmer, so I do need this kind of help to know what is happening with my installation :-) As per the CATALINA_OPTS or JAVA_OPTS variables, it would be great to have a confirmation, but by tracking their values along catalina.sh and startup.sh I reach the same conclusion you presented. FAQs are wiki entries, so anybody can modify them! I would add some sample lines as (this apply to Unix-based systems, could you add that applying to Windows ones?)... * to be included in a script calling startup.sh: both variables will be passed in to the startup process. export CATALINA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m export JAVA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m I am guessing it is of course possible to add this values within catanina.sh or startup.sh, but I do prefer don't touch these files if possible. Cheers, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users -- Best regards, Pavel ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
Ricardo Rodriguez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An MS Word document. The error also happened with a 6.5 MB zip file - so the xwiki limit of 10MB may not be the issue (although documents larger than the alleged 1MB MySQL limit have been successfully uploaded). Thus, the problem may arise from the amount of memory available for Java. What servlet container are you using? I've seen this error here running Tomcat. You can increase this amount by passing this parameter -Xmx256m -Xms256m (in this case 256Mb will be the new amount of available memory) at startup time. I'll have to check with the lab folks - I believe they started with the 1.2M2 Windows complete build, then upgraded to 1.2RC2. I will let you know after I have heard from them. I wanted to make the changes one step at a time to isolate the root cause. So, you have to shutdown your servlet container, modify some script to startup.sh, catalina.sh or whatever your are using to launch Tomcat, to add this paramenters to CATALINA_OPTS or JAVA_OPTS. I have not a clear idea about what is the right variable to be modified. Any feedback will be really welcome. Here is the script I am using here to start Tomcat: mire:/home/webmaster/bin # cat start_tomcat6 #!/bin/sh export CATALINA_HOME=/usr/share/tomcat-6.0.10 export JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java/jre-1.6.0_01 export JRE_HOME=/usr/share/java/jre-1.6.0_01 export CATALINA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m export JAVA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh As per your question about the need of restarting XWiki so that the new configuration values become effective. Yes, this is required. xwiki.cfg is read at deployment time. So if you have any utility that allow you to restart just one application, you are a lucky person :-) If you have not it, just restart the servlet container. I expected that to be the case - and the FAQ should be updated to reflect that (I didn't consider myself as authoritative, so I didn't want to edit the entry). I would also suggest that the error code (Java ) be added to the text as well. I am sure there are people out there with a much more in depth knowledge about this issue. But this has helped me. I hope it could be useful for you as well. Perhaps, but by speaking, you're the most effective person ;-) I'll update you (here) after we apply the changes and test again. Thanks for your help! ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll update you (here) after we apply the changes and test again. Thanks for your help! Once you get it running I think we need to hear from anybody else about the difference between CATALINA_OPTS and JAVA_OPTS to create a reasonable FAQ entry applying to Tomcat. Greetings, -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
I just looked at catalina.bat and it looks like there is no difference in how these used - both eventually get into java command line. Perhaps tomcat guys wanted to keep java and catalina params logically separated. Pavel On Feb 16, 2008 4:38 PM, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'll update you (here) after we apply the changes and test again. Thanks for your help! Once you get it running I think we need to hear from anybody else about the difference between CATALINA_OPTS and JAVA_OPTS to create a reasonable FAQ entry applying to Tomcat. Greetings, -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
Here is my version of what happens in QA. * What does out of memory error mean? - Java virtual machine (which runs tomcat which runs xwiki) has run out of heap space and cannot allocate anything anymore. * Is it related to MySQL packet size? - No * Why this error happens? - Because application needs more memory than JMV is allowed to use. * How is that related to attachments? - The way xwiki handles attachments is, well, not perfect. Somewhat related thread is http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/users/2007-November/009362.html * So what can you do? - a) Use -Xms and -Xmx java parameters to increase heap size. - b) Implement and contribute to XWiki effective attachment handling. * What are the -Xms and -Xmx params? - -Xms tells java the initial heap size, -Xmx controls max size. The latter is of special interest in this case and can be increased. Pavel On Feb 16, 2008 4:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ricardo Rodriguez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An MS Word document. The error also happened with a 6.5 MB zip file - so the xwiki limit of 10MB may not be the issue (although documents larger than the alleged 1MB MySQL limit have been successfully uploaded). Thus, the problem may arise from the amount of memory available for Java. What servlet container are you using? I've seen this error here running Tomcat. You can increase this amount by passing this parameter -Xmx256m -Xms256m (in this case 256Mb will be the new amount of available memory) at startup time. I'll have to check with the lab folks - I believe they started with the 1.2M2 Windows complete build, then upgraded to 1.2RC2. I will let you know after I have heard from them. I wanted to make the changes one step at a time to isolate the root cause. So, you have to shutdown your servlet container, modify some script to startup.sh, catalina.sh or whatever your are using to launch Tomcat, to add this paramenters to CATALINA_OPTS or JAVA_OPTS. I have not a clear idea about what is the right variable to be modified. Any feedback will be really welcome. Here is the script I am using here to start Tomcat: mire:/home/webmaster/bin # cat start_tomcat6 #!/bin/sh export CATALINA_HOME=/usr/share/tomcat-6.0.10 export JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java/jre-1.6.0_01 export JRE_HOME=/usr/share/java/jre-1.6.0_01 export CATALINA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m export JAVA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh As per your question about the need of restarting XWiki so that the new configuration values become effective. Yes, this is required. xwiki.cfg is read at deployment time. So if you have any utility that allow you to restart just one application, you are a lucky person :-) If you have not it, just restart the servlet container. I expected that to be the case - and the FAQ should be updated to reflect that (I didn't consider myself as authoritative, so I didn't want to edit the entry). I would also suggest that the error code (Java ) be added to the text as well. I am sure there are people out there with a much more in depth knowledge about this issue. But this has helped me. I hope it could be useful for you as well. Perhaps, but by speaking, you're the most effective person ;-) I'll update you (here) after we apply the changes and test again. Thanks for your help! ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
Pavel wrote: Here is my version of what happens in QA. * What does out of memory error mean? - Java virtual machine (which runs tomcat which runs xwiki) has run out of heap space and cannot allocate anything anymore. * Is it related to MySQL packet size? - No * Why this error happens? - Because application needs more memory than JMV is allowed to use. * How is that related to attachments? - The way xwiki handles attachments is, well, not perfect. Somewhat related thread is http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/users/2007-November/009362.html * So what can you do? - a) Use -Xms and -Xmx java parameters to increase heap size. - b) Implement and contribute to XWiki effective attachment handling. * What are the -Xms and -Xmx params? - -Xms tells java the initial heap size, -Xmx controls max size. The latter is of special interest in this case and can be increased. Pavel Hi Pavel, Do you know if this heap size issue happens just working with Tomcat as servlet container or it is generalizable to other application servers? It could be advisable clarify that this FAQ applies just to XWiki running on a Tomcat/MySQL server. I would add a link to heap, something as http://dictionary.zdnet.com/definition/heap.html. I am not a programmer, so I do need this kind of help to know what is happening with my installation :-) As per the CATALINA_OPTS or JAVA_OPTS variables, it would be great to have a confirmation, but by tracking their values along catalina.sh and startup.sh I reach the same conclusion you presented. FAQs are wiki entries, so anybody can modify them! I would add some sample lines as (this apply to Unix-based systems, could you add that applying to Windows ones?)... * to be included in a script calling startup.sh: both variables will be passed in to the startup process. export CATALINA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m export JAVA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m I am guessing it is of course possible to add this values within catanina.sh or startup.sh, but I do prefer don't touch these files if possible. Cheers, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When attempting to upload a 10.5MB file attachment to a page in XE 1.2-milestone-2.5917, user consistently get the error: Java Heap Space Out Of Memory Exception ! Hi, http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/Howtoincreasethemaximumattachmentsize Just curiosity, what kind of file are you uploading? An image? Thanks. HTH, -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
Ricardo Rodriguez wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When attempting to upload a 10.5MB file attachment to a page in XE 1.2-milestone-2.5917, user consistently get the error: Java Heap Space Out Of Memory Exception ! Hi, http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/FAQ/Howtoincreasethemaximumattachmen tsize Thanks - I have modified the xwiki preferences (as described) - does XE need to be restarted for it to take effect? (I haven't changed mySQL yet) - but will do some more testing first. Just curiosity, what kind of file are you uploading? An image? Thanks. An MS Word document. The error also happened with a 6.5 MB zip file - so the xwiki limit of 10MB may not be the issue (although documents larger than the alleged 1MB MySQL limit have been successfully uploaded). I'm going to test again, then look at the MySQL params... Thanks -- Jim Dowson CTO, Global Services, (821-76814) Linx: (617) 598-0505 ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
Re: [xwiki-users] [Error]: Java heap memory error on adding large attachment
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: An MS Word document. The error also happened with a 6.5 MB zip file - so the xwiki limit of 10MB may not be the issue (although documents larger than the alleged 1MB MySQL limit have been successfully uploaded). Thus, the problem may arise from the amount of memory available for Java. What servlet container are you using? I've seen this error here running Tomcat. You can increase this amount by passing this parameter -Xmx256m -Xms256m (in this case 256Mb will be the new amount of available memory) at startup time. So, you have to shutdown your servlet container, modify some script to startup.sh, catalina.sh or whatever your are using to launch Tomcat, to add this paramenters to CATALINA_OPTS or JAVA_OPTS. I have not a clear idea about what is the right variable to be modified. Any feedback will be really welcome. Here is the script I am using here to start Tomcat: mire:/home/webmaster/bin # cat start_tomcat6 #!/bin/sh export CATALINA_HOME=/usr/share/tomcat-6.0.10 export JAVA_HOME=/usr/share/java/jre-1.6.0_01 export JRE_HOME=/usr/share/java/jre-1.6.0_01 export CATALINA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m export JAVA_OPTS=-Xmx512m -Xms512m $CATALINA_HOME/bin/startup.sh As per your question about the need of restarting XWiki so that the new configuration values become effective. Yes, this is required. xwiki.cfg is read at deployment time. So if you have any utility that allow you to restart just one application, you are a lucky person :-) If you have not it, just restart the servlet container. I am sure there are people out there with a much more in depth knowledge about this issue. But this has helped me. I hope it could be useful for you as well. Greetings, -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team ___ users mailing list users@xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/users
