Re: [xwiki-users] Fwd: Upgrading a XWIKI installation 6.1 to 6.21 usings WARs

2014-10-14 Thread Manuel Smeria
Yes, Thomas is right. I was talking about bundling all Java connectors in
the WAR build.

Thanks,
Manuel

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Thomas Mortagne thomas.morta...@xwiki.com
 wrote:

 On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:33 AM, vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
  On 13 Oct 2014 at 09:11:20, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
 man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  I think users want to see examples of migrations from version X to Y
  instead of the current documentation.
 
  For example my previous mini tutorial could be used here :
 
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthewebapp
  rather than what is currently written.
 
  I think 90% of what you wrote is already there. Free free to integrate
 the 10% missing, that’s exactly what I meant by “Would be great to
 understand how we can improve
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make it
 extra clear what you have to do.” :)
 
  Basically instead of responding to the user which helps 1 user I prefer
 the approach of fixing the doc which helps N users (see
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HStrategiesforansweringquestions
 ).
 
  This is what I tried to do by adding a section to the documentation for
 Maik’s need. Now I need to know if what I did helped or not ;)
 
  BTW your mini tutorial is not fully correct since it means potentially
 loosing new configuration options.
 
  Also we could bundle the Java connectors for all the supported DBs into
  XWiki by default, but that's a different issue :)
 
  I don’t think Maik wanted to migrate DB, at least that’s not what he
 said. But yes we should probably also have a tutorial for moving from one
 DB to another (although we do already have a backup/export page and moving
 DB is exactly that: export then reimport, either at DB level or at XAR
 level).

 I don't think Manuel was really talking about changing the DB but the
 WAR does not contain any connector, not even HSQLDB one.

 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
 
  PS: One possible issue with Maik’s case is that he may not be a java
 person. He may not even know how Servlet Container work. This is what I
 added the new section which doesn’t require any knowledge of Java/Servlet
 container (no need to even know what a WAR is).
 
  Thanks,
  Manuel
 
  On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:49 AM, vinc...@massol.net
  wrote:
 
   Hi Manuel/Maik,
  
   On 13 Oct 2014 at 08:28:00, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
   man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
  
Hello Maik,
   
In order to upgrade your XWiki installataion from 6.1 to 6.2.1 you
 need
   to
follow these steps:
* Download the 6.2.1 WAR file (
http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-6.2.1.war)
 and
extract it into a folder called xwiki
* Go to your XWiki 6.1 installation folder and replace your
   webapps\xwiki
folder with the one from the previous step
* Start your server
   
This tutorial assumes you're using HyperSQL as the DB by default.
 If you
use another DB you need to copy a Java connector to your
xwiki\WEB-INF\lib folder and also configure your
xwiki\WEB-INF\hibernate.cfg.xml to connect to your specific DB.
   
Thanks,
Manuel
   
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Maik Dehnert
wrote:
   
 Hello all together,

 I am a bit confused looking at upgrading section, because I have
 never
 upgraded XWIKI before, and I just have experience with the regular
   .exe
 installation process. Can you explain in a bit more detail to me
 how to
 upgrade XWIKI with a WAR file? Where can I replace the old WAR
 file on
   my
 server with the newer one?
  
   Would be great to understand how we can improve
   http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make
 it
   extra clear what you have to do.
  
   I’ve created
  
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthestandarddistribution
  
   Let me know if it helps.
  
   Thanks
   -Vincent
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Re: [xwiki-users] Fwd: Upgrading a XWIKI installation 6.1 to 6.21 usings WARs

2014-10-14 Thread vinc...@massol.net
 




On 14 Oct 2014 at 10:55:44, Manuel Smeria 
(man...@xwiki.com(mailto:man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:

 Yes, Thomas is right. I was talking about bundling all Java connectors in
 the WAR build.  

I don’t think that’s a good idea since the version of the connector you need to 
use depend on the version of the database you use.

Thanks
-Vincent

 Thanks,
 Manuel
  
 On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 10:44 AM, Thomas Mortagne   wrote:
  
  On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:33 AM, vinc...@massol.net  
  wrote:
  
  
  
  
  
   On 13 Oct 2014 at 09:11:20, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
  man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
  
   Hi,
  
   I think users want to see examples of migrations from version X to Y
   instead of the current documentation.
  
   For example my previous mini tutorial could be used here :
  
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthewebapp
   rather than what is currently written.
  
   I think 90% of what you wrote is already there. Free free to integrate
  the 10% missing, that’s exactly what I meant by “Would be great to
  understand how we can improve
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make it
  extra clear what you have to do.” :)
  
   Basically instead of responding to the user which helps 1 user I prefer
  the approach of fixing the doc which helps N users (see
  http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HStrategiesforansweringquestions
  ).
  
   This is what I tried to do by adding a section to the documentation for
  Maik’s need. Now I need to know if what I did helped or not ;)
  
   BTW your mini tutorial is not fully correct since it means potentially
  loosing new configuration options.
  
   Also we could bundle the Java connectors for all the supported DBs into
   XWiki by default, but that's a different issue :)
  
   I don’t think Maik wanted to migrate DB, at least that’s not what he
  said. But yes we should probably also have a tutorial for moving from one
  DB to another (although we do already have a backup/export page and moving
  DB is exactly that: export then reimport, either at DB level or at XAR
  level).
 
  I don't think Manuel was really talking about changing the DB but the
  WAR does not contain any connector, not even HSQLDB one.
 
  
   Thanks
   -Vincent
  
   PS: One possible issue with Maik’s case is that he may not be a java
  person. He may not even know how Servlet Container work. This is what I
  added the new section which doesn’t require any knowledge of Java/Servlet
  container (no need to even know what a WAR is).
  
   Thanks,
   Manuel
  
   On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:49 AM, vinc...@massol.net
   wrote:
  
Hi Manuel/Maik,
   
On 13 Oct 2014 at 08:28:00, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
   
 Hello Maik,

 In order to upgrade your XWiki installataion from 6.1 to 6.2.1 you
  need
to
 follow these steps:
 * Download the 6.2.1 WAR file (
 http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-6.2.1.war)
  and
 extract it into a folder called xwiki
 * Go to your XWiki 6.1 installation folder and replace your
webapps\xwiki
 folder with the one from the previous step
 * Start your server

 This tutorial assumes you're using HyperSQL as the DB by default.
  If you
 use another DB you need to copy a Java connector to your
 xwiki\WEB-INF\lib folder and also configure your
 xwiki\WEB-INF\hibernate.cfg.xml to connect to your specific DB.

 Thanks,
 Manuel

 On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Maik Dehnert
 wrote:

  Hello all together,
 
  I am a bit confused looking at upgrading section, because I have
  never
  upgraded XWIKI before, and I just have experience with the regular
.exe
  installation process. Can you explain in a bit more detail to me
  how to
  upgrade XWIKI with a WAR file? Where can I replace the old WAR
  file on
my
  server with the newer one?
   
Would be great to understand how we can improve
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make
  it
extra clear what you have to do.
   
I’ve created
   
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthestandarddistribution
   
Let me know if it helps.
   
Thanks
-Vincent
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Re: [xwiki-users] Fwd: Upgrading a XWIKI installation 6.1 to 6.21 usings WARs

2014-10-13 Thread Manuel Smeria
Hello Maik,

In order to upgrade your XWiki installataion from 6.1 to 6.2.1 you need to
follow these steps:
* Download the 6.2.1 WAR file (
http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-6.2.1.war) and
extract it into a folder called xwiki
* Go to your XWiki 6.1 installation folder and replace your webapps\xwiki
folder with the one from the previous step
* Start your server

This tutorial assumes you're using HyperSQL as the DB by default. If you
use another DB you need to copy a Java connector to your
xwiki\WEB-INF\lib folder and also configure your
xwiki\WEB-INF\hibernate.cfg.xml to connect to your specific DB.

Thanks,
Manuel

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Maik Dehnert maik.dehn...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hello all together,

 I am a bit confused looking at upgrading section, because I have never
 upgraded XWIKI before, and I just have experience with the regular .exe
 installation process. Can you explain in a bit more detail to me how to
 upgrade XWIKI with a WAR file? Where can I replace the old WAR file on my
 server with the newer one?

 Thank you very much in advance.

 Maik
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Re: [xwiki-users] Fwd: Upgrading a XWIKI installation 6.1 to 6.21 usings WARs

2014-10-13 Thread Manuel Smeria
Hi,

I think users want to see examples of migrations from version X to Y
instead of the current documentation.

For example my previous mini tutorial could be used here :
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthewebapp
rather than what is currently written.

Also we could bundle the Java connectors for all the supported DBs into
XWiki by default, but that's a different issue :)

Thanks,
Manuel

On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:49 AM, vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net
wrote:

 Hi Manuel/Maik,

 On 13 Oct 2014 at 08:28:00, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
 man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:

  Hello Maik,
 
  In order to upgrade your XWiki installataion from 6.1 to 6.2.1 you need
 to
  follow these steps:
  * Download the 6.2.1 WAR file (
  http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-6.2.1.war) and
  extract it into a folder called xwiki
  * Go to your XWiki 6.1 installation folder and replace your
 webapps\xwiki
  folder with the one from the previous step
  * Start your server
 
  This tutorial assumes you're using HyperSQL as the DB by default. If you
  use another DB you need to copy a Java connector to your
  xwiki\WEB-INF\lib folder and also configure your
  xwiki\WEB-INF\hibernate.cfg.xml to connect to your specific DB.
 
  Thanks,
  Manuel
 
  On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Maik Dehnert
  wrote:
 
   Hello all together,
  
   I am a bit confused looking at upgrading section, because I have never
   upgraded XWIKI before, and I just have experience with the regular
 .exe
   installation process. Can you explain in a bit more detail to me how to
   upgrade XWIKI with a WAR file? Where can I replace the old WAR file on
 my
   server with the newer one?

 Would be great to understand how we can improve
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make it
 extra clear what you have to do.

 I’ve created
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthestandarddistribution

 Let me know if it helps.

 Thanks
 -Vincent

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Re: [xwiki-users] Fwd: Upgrading a XWIKI installation 6.1 to 6.21 usings WARs

2014-10-13 Thread vinc...@massol.net
 




On 13 Oct 2014 at 09:11:20, Manuel Smeria 
(man...@xwiki.com(mailto:man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:

 Hi,
  
 I think users want to see examples of migrations from version X to Y
 instead of the current documentation.
  
 For example my previous mini tutorial could be used here :
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthewebapp
 rather than what is currently written.

I think 90% of what you wrote is already there. Free free to integrate the 10% 
missing, that’s exactly what I meant by “Would be great to understand how we 
can improve http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make 
it extra clear what you have to do.” :)

Basically instead of responding to the user which helps 1 user I prefer the 
approach of fixing the doc which helps N users (see 
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HStrategiesforansweringquestions).

This is what I tried to do by adding a section to the documentation for Maik’s 
need. Now I need to know if what I did helped or not ;)

BTW your mini tutorial is not fully correct since it means potentially loosing 
new configuration options.

 Also we could bundle the Java connectors for all the supported DBs into
 XWiki by default, but that's a different issue :)

I don’t think Maik wanted to migrate DB, at least that’s not what he said. But 
yes we should probably also have a tutorial for moving from one DB to another 
(although we do already have a backup/export page and moving DB is exactly 
that: export then reimport, either at DB level or at XAR level).

Thanks
-Vincent

PS: One possible issue with Maik’s case is that he may not be a java person. He 
may not even know how Servlet Container work. This is what I added the new 
section which doesn’t require any knowledge of Java/Servlet container (no need 
to even know what a WAR is).
 
 Thanks,
 Manuel
  
 On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:49 AM, vinc...@massol.net  
 wrote:
  
  Hi Manuel/Maik,
 
  On 13 Oct 2014 at 08:28:00, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
  man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
 
   Hello Maik,
  
   In order to upgrade your XWiki installataion from 6.1 to 6.2.1 you need
  to
   follow these steps:
   * Download the 6.2.1 WAR file (
   http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-6.2.1.war) and
   extract it into a folder called xwiki
   * Go to your XWiki 6.1 installation folder and replace your
  webapps\xwiki
   folder with the one from the previous step
   * Start your server
  
   This tutorial assumes you're using HyperSQL as the DB by default. If you
   use another DB you need to copy a Java connector to your
   xwiki\WEB-INF\lib folder and also configure your
   xwiki\WEB-INF\hibernate.cfg.xml to connect to your specific DB.
  
   Thanks,
   Manuel
  
   On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Maik Dehnert
   wrote:
  
Hello all together,
   
I am a bit confused looking at upgrading section, because I have never
upgraded XWIKI before, and I just have experience with the regular
  .exe
installation process. Can you explain in a bit more detail to me how to
upgrade XWIKI with a WAR file? Where can I replace the old WAR file on
  my
server with the newer one?
 
  Would be great to understand how we can improve
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make it
  extra clear what you have to do.
 
  I’ve created
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthestandarddistribution
 
  Let me know if it helps.
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
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Re: [xwiki-users] Fwd: Upgrading a XWIKI installation 6.1 to 6.21 usings WARs

2014-10-13 Thread vinc...@massol.net
 




On 13 Oct 2014 at 09:33:31, vinc...@massol.net 
(vinc...@massol.net(mailto:vinc...@massol.net)) wrote:

  
  
  
  
  
 On 13 Oct 2014 at 09:11:20, Manuel Smeria 
 (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
  
  Hi,
 
  I think users want to see examples of migrations from version X to Y
  instead of the current documentation.
 
  For example my previous mini tutorial could be used here :
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthewebapp
  rather than what is currently written.  
  
 I think 90% of what you wrote is already there. Free free to integrate the 
 10% missing, that’s exactly what I meant by “Would be great to understand how 
 we can improve http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to 
 make it extra clear what you have to do.” :)  
  
 Basically instead of responding to the user which helps 1 user I prefer the 
 approach of fixing the doc which helps N users (see 
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HStrategiesforansweringquestions).
   
  
 This is what I tried to do by adding a section to the documentation for 
 Maik’s need. Now I need to know if what I did helped or not ;)  
  
 BTW your mini tutorial is not fully correct since it means potentially 
 loosing new configuration options. 

The truth on this is that we don’t have any easy way to upgrade an install at 
this level yet…

Thanks
-Vincent

  Also we could bundle the Java connectors for all the supported DBs into
  XWiki by default, but that's a different issue :)  
  
 I don’t think Maik wanted to migrate DB, at least that’s not what he said. 
 But yes we should probably also have a tutorial for moving from one DB to 
 another (although we do already have a backup/export page and moving DB is 
 exactly that: export then reimport, either at DB level or at XAR level).  
  
 Thanks  
 -Vincent
  
 PS: One possible issue with Maik’s case is that he may not be a java person. 
 He may not even know how Servlet Container work. This is what I added the new 
 section which doesn’t require any knowledge of Java/Servlet container (no 
 need to even know what a WAR is).  
  
  Thanks,
  Manuel
 
  On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:49 AM, vinc...@massol.net
  wrote:
 
   Hi Manuel/Maik,
  
   On 13 Oct 2014 at 08:28:00, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
   man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
  
Hello Maik,
   
In order to upgrade your XWiki installataion from 6.1 to 6.2.1 you need
   to
follow these steps:
* Download the 6.2.1 WAR file (
http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-6.2.1.war) and
extract it into a folder called xwiki
* Go to your XWiki 6.1 installation folder and replace your
   webapps\xwiki
folder with the one from the previous step
* Start your server
   
This tutorial assumes you're using HyperSQL as the DB by default. If you
use another DB you need to copy a Java connector to your
xwiki\WEB-INF\lib folder and also configure your
xwiki\WEB-INF\hibernate.cfg.xml to connect to your specific DB.
   
Thanks,
Manuel
   
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Maik Dehnert
wrote:
   
 Hello all together,

 I am a bit confused looking at upgrading section, because I have never
 upgraded XWIKI before, and I just have experience with the regular
   .exe
 installation process. Can you explain in a bit more detail to me how 
 to
 upgrade XWIKI with a WAR file? Where can I replace the old WAR file on
   my
 server with the newer one?
  
   Would be great to understand how we can improve
   http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make it
   extra clear what you have to do.
  
   I’ve created
   http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthestandarddistribution
  
   Let me know if it helps.
  
   Thanks
   -Vincent
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Re: [xwiki-users] Fwd: Upgrading a XWIKI installation 6.1 to 6.21 usings WARs

2014-10-13 Thread Thomas Mortagne
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:33 AM, vinc...@massol.net vinc...@massol.net wrote:





 On 13 Oct 2014 at 09:11:20, Manuel Smeria 
 (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:

 Hi,

 I think users want to see examples of migrations from version X to Y
 instead of the current documentation.

 For example my previous mini tutorial could be used here :
 http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthewebapp
 rather than what is currently written.

 I think 90% of what you wrote is already there. Free free to integrate the 
 10% missing, that’s exactly what I meant by “Would be great to understand how 
 we can improve http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to 
 make it extra clear what you have to do.” :)

 Basically instead of responding to the user which helps 1 user I prefer the 
 approach of fixing the doc which helps N users (see 
 http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/Contributing#HStrategiesforansweringquestions).

 This is what I tried to do by adding a section to the documentation for 
 Maik’s need. Now I need to know if what I did helped or not ;)

 BTW your mini tutorial is not fully correct since it means potentially 
 loosing new configuration options.

 Also we could bundle the Java connectors for all the supported DBs into
 XWiki by default, but that's a different issue :)

 I don’t think Maik wanted to migrate DB, at least that’s not what he said. 
 But yes we should probably also have a tutorial for moving from one DB to 
 another (although we do already have a backup/export page and moving DB is 
 exactly that: export then reimport, either at DB level or at XAR level).

I don't think Manuel was really talking about changing the DB but the
WAR does not contain any connector, not even HSQLDB one.


 Thanks
 -Vincent

 PS: One possible issue with Maik’s case is that he may not be a java person. 
 He may not even know how Servlet Container work. This is what I added the new 
 section which doesn’t require any knowledge of Java/Servlet container (no 
 need to even know what a WAR is).

 Thanks,
 Manuel

 On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 9:49 AM, vinc...@massol.net
 wrote:

  Hi Manuel/Maik,
 
  On 13 Oct 2014 at 08:28:00, Manuel Smeria (man...@xwiki.com(mailto:
  man...@xwiki.com)) wrote:
 
   Hello Maik,
  
   In order to upgrade your XWiki installataion from 6.1 to 6.2.1 you need
  to
   follow these steps:
   * Download the 6.2.1 WAR file (
   http://download.forge.ow2.org/xwiki/xwiki-enterprise-web-6.2.1.war) and
   extract it into a folder called xwiki
   * Go to your XWiki 6.1 installation folder and replace your
  webapps\xwiki
   folder with the one from the previous step
   * Start your server
  
   This tutorial assumes you're using HyperSQL as the DB by default. If you
   use another DB you need to copy a Java connector to your
   xwiki\WEB-INF\lib folder and also configure your
   xwiki\WEB-INF\hibernate.cfg.xml to connect to your specific DB.
  
   Thanks,
   Manuel
  
   On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Maik Dehnert
   wrote:
  
Hello all together,
   
I am a bit confused looking at upgrading section, because I have never
upgraded XWIKI before, and I just have experience with the regular
  .exe
installation process. Can you explain in a bit more detail to me how to
upgrade XWIKI with a WAR file? Where can I replace the old WAR file on
  my
server with the newer one?
 
  Would be great to understand how we can improve
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade to make it
  extra clear what you have to do.
 
  I’ve created
  http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Upgrade#HUpgradingthestandarddistribution
 
  Let me know if it helps.
 
  Thanks
  -Vincent
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