I leave for a week and a half and come back to a bucketful of
USMA messages. Some very interesting conversations going on!
Adrian writes:
It is no fantasy, this is probably the only way a
democratic government can regulate a transit to
metric. Forbidding anything generates a lot of
If I see more of these bottles I'll do exactly that, as we have plenty of 1
Liter beakers over in the chemistry wing of our building. Something in me
crawls, however, at the idea of paying a couple dollars for 4 Liters of
*water*.
If it is 4 Liters it shows the ridiculousness of the situation.
I have found Mead-Johnson's recall notice for its Enfamil Nutramigen
powder.
Near as I can make out, most of the directions on the can are OK, but in
the Spanish version there is one section in fine print that reverses the
ratio of powder to water. This is apparently not due to an error in
The press release for the Enfamil recall is at
http://www.meadjohnson.com/about/pressreleas/nutramigenengpr.html
Jim
--
Metric Methods(SM) Don't be late to metricate!
James R. Frysinger, CAMS http://www.metricmethods.com/
10 Captiva Row e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Gene Mechtly wrote in USMA 14207
On Sun, 8 Jul 2001, Joseph B. Reid wrote:
...
I meant scales that weigh in both pounds and kilograms should not be
certified. Those scales are electronic and switchable between pounds and
kilograms. Those scales measure weight. Mechanical scales like
James Frysinger in USMA 14213 has misinderstood me. He wrote:
So, most commercial and laboratory devices actually measure force, since
they require a gravitational field to operate. HOWEVER, this is of no
great concern to most people. As we've said here many times, weight is
often taken to be
Paul Trusten in USMA 14205 wrote:
When I last asked my father about his feelings towards the US changing
over to the metric system, his answer boiled down to four words which, I
believe, are shared by the working world in all areas of the world
recovering from non-SI usage: I couldn't be
Here are the metric items I found in NY that are NOT on the USMA
list at http://lamar.colostate.edu/~hillger/products.htm. All are
manufactured in the USA unless noted otherwise.
aseptic juice pack, 125 mL (Libby's)
orange juice, 1.75 L (Simply Orange)
pasta (vermicelli), 500 g (Mueller's)
??? I beg your pardon?... We must be reading different things then, Nat. There was
absolutely no mention of any measurements there at all, and when there was, it was the
old stupid thousands of miles crap!... :-S
Marcus
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:19:32
Nat Hager III wrote:
Interesting
Comments on 4 L water:
I remember that Hinkley water came in 4 L jugs, but they called it a
gallon plus or something like that, but I have not seen it lately.
For all outward appearances, the jug appeared like a 1 gallon plastic
milk jug. The difference was that some (if not all?) milk jugs
Welcome back, Jim. Now on to this...
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 07:41:11
Jim Elwell wrote:
...
This is said very well. These anti-metricationists in England
certainly want to keep their beloved units, but what really sets
them off is some government busy-body telling them how to run
their lives.
Missed the thousands of miles Marcus, but did note:
Mr. Fajardo produced a nine-centimeter segment of hollow fiber...
Corning was obtaining promising results from five-meter samples...
The new geometric design has enabled Corning to make hollow fiber tens of
meters long...
Nat
??? I beg
At 10:41 -0400 01/07/8, kilopascal wrote:
What our European cousins make of all
this heaven only knows!!
Probably laughing themselves silly of shaking their heads in disbelief, I
shouldn't wonder!!
Even not that : simply ignore
Louis
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 08:41:25
Jim Elwell wrote:
...
THE UGLY:
Nomination for the WORST dual-unit label ever printed (see
dixie3.jpg): package of paper drink cups, labeled as 7 oz
(206.99mL)... (c) given that it is not a volume of product being
listed, but merely the capacity of a paper cup, it
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 10:56:29
Nat Hager III wrote:
Missed the thousands of miles Marcus, but did note:
Mr. Fajardo produced a nine-centimeter segment of hollow fiber...
Corning was obtaining promising results from five-meter samples...
The new geometric design has enabled Corning to make
No problem Marcus. I'm often reading things in haste as I task-switch
between email, research proposals, data running in background, and whatever
else going on. You actually write better if you write quickly and then edit,
but most of us forget step #2. g
Seriously I think NY Times thought it
The Dixie web site does not provide for electronic feedback, so I
sent this to Georgia Pacific. I did call Dixie's 800 number, but
hung up after about 5 minutes on hold.
*
Sir/Madam:
This comment applies to DIXIE CUPS. I cannot find an email
address, so please forward it
2001-07-09
Yes, that would work, but, you have to know the mass of the container so you
can subtract that out. One can't assume the mass of the container is
negligible. Though, he could weigh it, and pore out the water and weigh the
container and then calculate the mass of the water and thus
2001-07-09
I think the 3 Litre milk carton was a newly designed packaging by one
particular company. If I'm not mistaken the companies name is Weggmanns, or
something similar. There was more to the container then just its 3 litre
capacity. There was the special designed handle and spout for
Joe Reid wrote:
I think that Toledo scales measure true mass. They balance the
weight of a
known mass against the weight of the mass to be measured by varying the
effective length of the lever arm supporting the known mass.
I'm with you now.
Those scales in a doctor's office, with the
In a message dated Mon, 9 Jul 2001 12:27:39 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kilopascal
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
2001-07-09
When I see something like 206.99 mL it makes me think the guy or gal who is
responsible for the text on the label is very anti-metric. If it was their
way they would not put
Hi, all.
I am from Sunderland, England, and I wondered if America is experiencing
similar resistance to metrication as we are.
As you know, Sunderland was involved in the recent Metric Martyr's debacle
as right-wing groups resisted the changeover to metric measures for loose
goods for fruit and
Where did you get that idea, Marcus? That doesn't match my impression of
nutrition labels. I see a very wide variety in serving sizes in the
various types of products.
Jim
Ma Be wrote:
Jim, I think they were using the term serving in the nutrition sense. Please
remember that nutrition
This just proves how natural SI units are; they simply fade into the page!
Duncan
-Original Message-
From: Ma Be [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: July 9, 2001 11:15
Subject: [USMA:14245] Re: Fiber optic article metric???...
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001
My 'take' is that they are, simply, innumerate. They 'hated maths' in
school so never learned about significant digits, rounding etc.
Duncan
From: kilopascal [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: U.S. Metric Association [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: July 9, 2001 12:26
Subject: [USMA:14249] Re: Metric in New York:
America seems to be one of the last bastions of the imperial system, yet I
would ask this.
How many Americans actually know how many ounces there are in a pound, or
how many pints there are in each gallon?
The imperial system is deemed so good by it's supporters, yet I understand
the US gallon
I once heard an ifp-apologist asked the following in a newsgroup:
So what's the difference between adopting the metric system - which you
claim you do not understand, and clinging to the Imperial system - which you
equally do not understand.
Nat
America seems to be one of the last bastions
Thanks, Joe.
Australia had a brilliant inspirational campaign in its metrication
program---postage stamps that illustrated metric paradigms (1 g is the
weight of a paper clip, etc.).
Joseph B. Reid wrote:
Paul Trusten in USMA 14205 wrote:
When I last asked my father about his feelings
Stephen,
You could say that metric legislation in the US is, by definition,
suffering, just by the fact that it is US legislation.
The greatest nonstop argument of my lifetime is when and how my country
is finally going to fix SI as its standard of weights and measures. It
is the greatest
Stephen,
On this side of the pond, we have a late night TV host named Jay Leno,
who specializes in taking the intellectual temperature of the nation by
asking the man on the street questions such as the ones you have
proposed below. I would guess that a sizable number of Americans cannot
answer
Based on my oral quizzing of college students here at the beginning of
my courses I would say the answer to all the below is very few. Even
fewer know that there are two different pounds used in the US. Even
fewer than that know that there are two different sizes of quarts (dry
and fluid)!
Jim
Thanks Joe, I had forgotten about this one.
Cheers,
Pat Naughtin CAMS
on 2001/07/09 00.58, Joseph B. Reid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Pat Naughtin reported in USMA 14181:
Drums - 20 L: Twenty litre motor oil drums were designed so that 10 of these
smaller drums could be filled from a
Oh, it's perfectly reliable, Steve -- just nonsensical.
The U.S. gallon (128 U.S. fluid ounces) has always been different from the
Imperial Gallon (160 Imperial fluid ounces). Not surprisingly, many
Canadians were confused by U.S. gas mileage claims (thinking U.S. cars were
even less economical
FYI
Some exchanges I had with our imperial Web-master.
A
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From: Adrian Jadic [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 12:37:07 +0800
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: WxOffice Feedback for WEBMASTER (Meric/imperial units)
I thank you for your prompt reply.
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