Re: [Valgrind-users] Valgrind for Windows update

2012-08-14 Thread Christoph Schwarz
On 13/08/2012 2:54 PM, Julian Seward wrote:

 Hi Christoph,

 Thanks for the update.  It's great to hear this is being worked on.
Hi Julian, nice to hear from you. I've been working on this project for 
about a year now, and I am 100% sure that there can be a working 
Valgrind for Windows one day. There are no unsolvable problems, it's 
only a matter of effort. However my time is limited so the reason for 
posting is to raise awareness about this project and hopefully attract 
more developers.

 Simple applications can be run, compiled with MSVC or GCC, even GUI ones
 (MessageBox). Memory errors (buffer overruns, uninitialized memory,
 memory leaks) are detected for 32 bit apps. The instrumentation, system
 calls -including callbacks from system calls-, function redirection,
 work in principle.

 The biggest issues right now are stability and making progress in the
 following areas:
 1. debug information parsing, especially PDB, especially 64 bit
 2. stack walking, both 32 and 64 bit
 3. function redirection on 64 bit (32 bit seems to work)

 How well does it run GUI apps with --tool=none?  I ask because 'none'
 does not require any debuginfor reading to work, and so it is a good test
 for how well your basic control-flow, memory management, etc, stuff works.
--tool=none works much better than --tool=memcheck. I basically test 
with a simple MessageBox test program. I got the box pop up on Win32 
and Win64 but not under Wow64. I can drag the box around and close it by 
clicking the button.
I also tried to run Windows calculator. On Win32, the calculator 
displays and I can open the menu bar. However, if I click any menu item 
or button, the program stops abruptly.
Win64 calculator stopped because of a misaligned memory access before 
displaying its window.
I have not looked into those issues as my focus is on non-GUI applications.


 What are the problems with stack walking?
Basically incomplete call stacks (displaying only one frame) or 
incorrect location information. I filed several tickets on V4Ws tracker 
describing the issues in detail.
The current implementation uses dbghelp's StackWalk function, however I 
would prefer a solution that does not rely on this DLL but rather uses 
its own implementation, like Linux.

Chris


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Re: [Valgrind-users] Valgrind for Windows update

2012-08-13 Thread Julian Seward

Hi Christoph,

Thanks for the update.  It's great to hear this is being worked on.

 Simple applications can be run, compiled with MSVC or GCC, even GUI ones
 (MessageBox). Memory errors (buffer overruns, uninitialized memory,
 memory leaks) are detected for 32 bit apps. The instrumentation, system
 calls -including callbacks from system calls-, function redirection,
 work in principle.
 
 The biggest issues right now are stability and making progress in the
 following areas:
 1. debug information parsing, especially PDB, especially 64 bit
 2. stack walking, both 32 and 64 bit
 3. function redirection on 64 bit (32 bit seems to work)

How well does it run GUI apps with --tool=none?  I ask because 'none'
does not require any debuginfor reading to work, and so it is a good test
for how well your basic control-flow, memory management, etc, stuff works.

What are the problems with stack walking?

J

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[Valgrind-users] Valgrind for Windows update

2012-08-10 Thread Christoph Schwarz
Hi all,

I think the 3.8.0 release is a good occasion to give you an update on 
the Valgrind for Windows development effort.

Since its inception last November, significant progress has been made. 
But it is still a long way to go. So I'm calling again for any 
interested developers to join the project.

The Valgrind for Windows code is now in synch with the 3.8.0 release. 
Valgrind including all tools (except the two pthread error detectors), 
as well as many test programs, build on Windows in both 32 and 64 bit 
versions.

Simple applications can be run, compiled with MSVC or GCC, even GUI ones 
(MessageBox). Memory errors (buffer overruns, uninitialized memory, 
memory leaks) are detected for 32 bit apps. The instrumentation, system 
calls -including callbacks from system calls-, function redirection, 
work in principle.

The biggest issues right now are stability and making progress in the 
following areas:
1. debug information parsing, especially PDB, especially 64 bit
2. stack walking, both 32 and 64 bit
3. function redirection on 64 bit (32 bit seems to work)

Bugs such as Valgrind crashing because it might not properly read PDB 
symbol information impede further progress (see 
http://sourceforge.net/p/valgrind4win/tickets/17/)

There are other items on the list, please see the project homepage on 
SourceForge: http://sourceforge.net/projects/valgrind4win/

Thanks for your interest, and thank you Julian and the other developers 
for another great Valgrind release.

Chris

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