[vchkpw] autorespond with a [dot] in the email address

2004-02-21 Thread Darren Beale
Hi

I'm using autorespond (the debian package version) and vpopmail (custom 
deb) and it's set up and working but only partially.

For address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the .qmail file .qmail-foo the autorespond 
works, however for [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the .qmail file .qmail-foo.bar 
it won't, simple as that. If I rename to .qmail-foo and set up a valias 
for foo to foo.bar it works.

The problem is that the foo.bar address is the one that everyone will be 
using. I did think about deleting foo.bar reinstating the account to foo 
and setting up a valias foo.bar but this seems heavy handed and will 
require quite a bit of work to migrate a lot of users.

Is this easy to fix? have I missed something obvious?

thanks

Darren Beale



Re: [vchkpw] autorespond with a [dot] in the email address

2004-02-21 Thread Jeremy Kister
On Saturday, February 21, 2004 7:16 AM, Darren Beale wrote:
 it won't, simple as that. If I rename to .qmail-foo and set up a valias 
 for foo to foo.bar it works.

try:
mv .qmail-foo.bar .qmail-foo\:bar

 Is this easy to fix? have I missed something obvious?

think so.. qmail-local translates dot to colon.

Jeremy Kister
www.jeremykister.com/jeremy/
Argus: The World's Most Advanced Monitoring System: http://argus.tcp4me.com


Re: [vchkpw] autorespond with a [dot] in the email address

2004-02-21 Thread Rick Widmer


Darren Beale wrote:

Hi


The problem is that the foo.bar address is the one that everyone will be 
using. I did think about deleting foo.bar reinstating the account to foo 
and setting up a valias foo.bar but this seems heavy handed and will 
require quite a bit of work to migrate a lot of users.

Is this easy to fix? have I missed something obvious?
Try.qmail-foo:bar

See   man dot-qmail

Look for the WARNING: below the major heading  EXTENSION ADDRESSES.

Rick



RE: [vchkpw] autorespond with a [dot] in the email address

2004-02-21 Thread Shane Chrisp
You should be using .qmail-user:name

man dot-qmail 

-Original Message-
From: Darren Beale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, 21 February 2004 8:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [vchkpw] autorespond with a [dot] in the email address

Hi

I'm using autorespond (the debian package version) and 
vpopmail (custom 
deb) and it's set up and working but only partially.

For address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the .qmail file .qmail-foo the 
autorespond 
works, however for [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the .qmail file .qmail-foo.bar 
it won't, simple as that. If I rename to .qmail-foo and set up 
a valias 
for foo to foo.bar it works.

The problem is that the foo.bar address is the one that 
everyone will be 
using. I did think about deleting foo.bar reinstating the 
account to foo 
and setting up a valias foo.bar but this seems heavy handed and will 
require quite a bit of work to migrate a lot of users.

Is this easy to fix? have I missed something obvious?

thanks

Darren Beale





Re: [vchkpw] autorespond with a [dot] in the email address

2004-02-21 Thread Darren Beale
Jeremy Kister wrote:

try:
mv .qmail-foo.bar .qmail-foo\:bar
cool, thanks

;D



Re: [vchkpw] Re: [qmailadmin] Re: PHP vpopmail extension

2004-02-21 Thread Rick Widmer


Existence wrote:

Rick Widmer wrote:

That is what i meant, not everyone is able to have a special server just 
for mail, and thus running Apache as vpopmail:vchkpw is not an option. 
If you created some sort of deamon that allows you with public and 
privatekey's to communicate. Then you can run apache as www:www and not 
have to worry about users being able to alter vpopmail stuff cause of 
the mail server running under vpopmail:vchkpw.
It is very easy to start a second instance of Apache.  Just create a 
second httpd.conf file with different users, different DocumentRoot and 
add Listen directives to both httpd.conf files specifying which ports 
and IP addresses each server handles.

The more I think about it the more it looks like the most secure 
solution.  (Other than a separate mail server.)


A binary that handled a few information retrieval functions is probably
all that would be needed.  I think there would be about 4-6 functions it
should be able to return data from.  I actually considered writing it
before I decided to attack the PHP extension.
For the rest we may as well exec the existing progtrams and not
re-invent existing functionality.  I've already got a PHP program that
manages mail domains that way, but it reads the ~vpopmail/domains/
directory to get all its information.
Well, what i meant is that having one binary that can do everything in 
one, is easier than having to run several different commands each time 
to add or remove domains, and having to parse different output each time.

I personally might start on this, if i get the chance, as it would be a 
lot better than running apache as the mail user, when other there are 
other websites on it.
If you do, please be sure to implement security within your program. 
Each page hit the php program needs to pass user supplied credentials so 
you can verify the user.  The vpopmail library does not do this security 
checking, so you have to.  If the vpopmail library becomes directly 
available to anyone running as www:www, they can do ANYTHING to your 
mail accounts.

Rick





Re: [vchkpw] Re: [qmailadmin] Re: PHP vpopmail extension

2004-02-21 Thread X-Istence
Rick Widmer wrote:



Existence wrote:

Rick Widmer wrote:

That is what i meant, not everyone is able to have a special server 
just for mail, and thus running Apache as vpopmail:vchkpw is not an 
option. If you created some sort of deamon that allows you with 
public and privatekey's to communicate. Then you can run apache as 
www:www and not have to worry about users being able to alter 
vpopmail stuff cause of the mail server running under vpopmail:vchkpw.


It is very easy to start a second instance of Apache.  Just create a 
second httpd.conf file with different users, different DocumentRoot 
and add Listen directives to both httpd.conf files specifying which 
ports and IP addresses each server handles.

The more I think about it the more it looks like the most secure 
solution.  (Other than a separate mail server.)
I personally dont like the idea that i have to use resources on two 
running Apache's, but it is indeed possible.



A binary that handled a few information retrieval functions is probably
all that would be needed.  I think there would be about 4-6 
functions it
should be able to return data from.  I actually considered writing it
before I decided to attack the PHP extension.

For the rest we may as well exec the existing progtrams and not
re-invent existing functionality.  I've already got a PHP program that
manages mail domains that way, but it reads the ~vpopmail/domains/
directory to get all its information.
Well, what i meant is that having one binary that can do everything 
in one, is easier than having to run several different commands each 
time to add or remove domains, and having to parse different output 
each time.

I personally might start on this, if i get the chance, as it would be 
a lot better than running apache as the mail user, when other there 
are other websites on it.


If you do, please be sure to implement security within your program. 
Each page hit the php program needs to pass user supplied credentials 
so you can verify the user.  The vpopmail library does not do this 
security checking, so you have to.  If the vpopmail library becomes 
directly available to anyone running as www:www, they can do ANYTHING 
to your mail accounts.
Yeah, that much i have figured out :P.

I would use http auth, and then use the checkpasswd implementation in 
this long running deamon, to check if it is correct or not, if it is not 
correct, we drop the connection, if this happens 3 times in a row, that 
user is disallowed to contact the deamon again, until they have waited 1 
hour.

Rick





Re: [vchkpw] autorespond with a [dot] in the email address

2004-02-21 Thread flylord
Quoting Darren Beale [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi
 
 I'm using autorespond (the debian package version) and vpopmail (custom 
 deb) and it's set up and working but only partially.
 
 For address [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the .qmail file .qmail-foo the autorespond 
 works, however for [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the .qmail file .qmail-foo.bar 
 it won't, simple as that. If I rename to .qmail-foo and set up a valias 
 for foo to foo.bar it works.
 


Use .qmail-foo:bar instead of .qmail-foo.bar

It's in FAQ:)

Ilic Aleksandar



[vchkpw] delete incoming emails

2004-02-21 Thread John Hogenmiller
Hi,

I'm looking with a qmail/vpopmail/no-mysql setup how to have messages going to a
specific address to be deleted instantly.  I don't want to bounce, and I don't
want a catch-all deleted setup.  Ie, [EMAIL PROTECTED] - /dev/null.

I'm basically just looking for a pointer on how to do this.  We have an account
on a customer's machine that needs this done.  I don't have remote access to
the machine.  Currently, I wrote a perl script to check the account through
pop3 and delete any messages found, running on a continuous basis.  I want to
be able to go in, spend 2 minutes setting up the blackhole account (without a
hitch, as is often the case with computers ;), and leave a happy man. :}