Re: [vchkpw] dumb question - courier/vchkpw/mysql

2004-08-11 Thread Jeremy Kitchen
On Wednesday 11 August 2004 03:20 pm, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
> okay, hopefully this isn't too stupid a question.
>
> i'm needing to upgrade courier-imap. my vpopmail has been running off mysql
> backend forever. when i configure courier, should i still use
> --with-authvchkpw, or does my use of mysql mean it would be more direct to
> just use --with-authmysql? (i'm aware courier will normally compile every
> damned authentication method on the planet and its aunt, but i normally
> disable all but the one i need).

I believe the authvchkpw, cuz then it links against vpopmail and uses its.  
I'm not sure exactly how the mysql backend works, I'm sure you could hack it 
together to authenticate vpopmail mysql users, but I'm not sure how it works 
(for instance, pure-ftpd you tell it what sql queries to use to get 
information it needs, etc)

-Jeremy

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[vchkpw] dumb question - courier/vchkpw/mysql

2004-08-11 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
okay, hopefully this isn't too stupid a question.
i'm needing to upgrade courier-imap. my vpopmail has been running off mysql 
backend forever. when i configure courier, should i still use 
--with-authvchkpw, or does my use of mysql mean it would be more direct to 
just use --with-authmysql? (i'm aware courier will normally compile every 
damned authentication method on the planet and its aunt, but i normally 
disable all but the one i need).

or am i misunderstanding the mysql backend?
Paul Theodoropoulos
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Re: [vchkpw] dumb question! (QmailAdmin 1.2.x does require vpopmail 5.4.x)

2004-04-15 Thread Tom Collins
On Apr 15, 2004, at 6:57 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
well, the potential show-stopper is the switch from aliases and 
forwarding to just forwarding in the new vpopmail. i use mysql, along 
with mysql valiases,
QmailAdmin 1.2.1 supports managing MySQL-based valiases.  QmailAdmin 
1.0.25 and later includes contrib/alias2forward.pl, a utility for 
converting Maildir delivery in .qmail-alias files to email delivery.  
Vpopmail 5.4.1 includes dotqmail2valias for converting .qmail-alias 
files to MySQL valias table entries.

so what happens to those 'embedded' aliases once i upgrade? 
automatically converted to properly functioning forwards? i suspect 
not.that's what makes it kind of a tough migration.
They will continue to work (or not work) as they do now.  Upgrading 
won't make the situation any worse than it already is.  The latest 
QmailAdmin understands the Maildir-style aliases fine -- it just 
doesn't create them.

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Re: [vchkpw] dumb question! (QmailAdmin 1.2.x does require vpopmail 5.4.x)

2004-04-15 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
At 06:12 PM 4/15/2004, you wrote:
On Apr 15, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
in lieu of upgrading my vpopmail installation from 5.3.18 to current 
(because of the relatively steep number of backend changes done that will 
require a tedious migration effort), i'm curious just how tightly coupled 
the current qmailadmin is to the current vpopmail - that is, if i upgrade 
only qmailadmin, while leaving vpopmail alone, am i asking for even more 
headaches, or fewer?
From the QmailAdmin INSTALL file:

QmailAdmin 1.2.0 and later requires Vpopmail 5.4.0 or later.

Upgrading from 5.3.18 to 5.4.3 shouldn't result in a tedious migration 
effort.  If you use MySQL, you'll need to create a file with the 
user/password settings (as opposed to editing vmysql.h).  The 
"defaultdomain" has moved from a configure option to an external file.

There really aren't a lot of other changes that I can recall...
well, the potential show-stopper is the switch from aliases and forwarding 
to just forwarding in the new vpopmail. i use mysql, along with mysql 
valiases, so what happens to those 'embedded' aliases once i upgrade? 
automatically converted to properly functioning forwards? i suspect 
not.that's what makes it kind of a tough migration.

Paul Theodoropoulos
http://www.anastrophe.com


Re: [vchkpw] dumb question! (QmailAdmin 1.2.x does require vpopmail 5.4.x)

2004-04-15 Thread Tom Collins
On Apr 15, 2004, at 1:56 PM, Paul Theodoropoulos wrote:
in lieu of upgrading my vpopmail installation from 5.3.18 to current 
(because of the relatively steep number of backend changes done that 
will require a tedious migration effort), i'm curious just how tightly 
coupled the current qmailadmin is to the current vpopmail - that is, 
if i upgrade only qmailadmin, while leaving vpopmail alone, am i 
asking for even more headaches, or fewer?
From the QmailAdmin INSTALL file:

QmailAdmin 1.2.0 and later requires Vpopmail 5.4.0 or later.

Upgrading from 5.3.18 to 5.4.3 shouldn't result in a tedious migration 
effort.  If you use MySQL, you'll need to create a file with the 
user/password settings (as opposed to editing vmysql.h).  The 
"defaultdomain" has moved from a configure option to an external file.

There really aren't a lot of other changes that I can recall...

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[vchkpw] dumb question!

2004-04-15 Thread Paul Theodoropoulos
in lieu of upgrading my vpopmail installation from 5.3.18 to current 
(because of the relatively steep number of backend changes done that will 
require a tedious migration effort), i'm curious just how tightly coupled 
the current qmailadmin is to the current vpopmail - that is, if i upgrade 
only qmailadmin, while leaving vpopmail alone, am i asking for even more 
headaches, or fewer?



Paul Theodoropoulos
http://www.anastrophe.com