Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Theunis Potgieter
2009/11/16 Seppo Ingalsuo seppo.ingal...@iki.fi:
 On Sun, 2009-11-15 at 20:24 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
 2009/11/15 Timothy D. Lenz tl...@vorgon.com:
  The SPDIF can't carry 7.1 sound? It's just digital data stream. Should
  be able to carry how ever many channels get encoded to the data packets.
 
 Is the problem not bandwidth requirements?

 For consumer SPDIF max bandwidth is about 2 x 20 x 48 kHz = 1.92
 Mbit/s.

 E.g. encoded DD+ 7.1 bit stream fits there but linear 7.1 PCM doesn't.
 Highest end audio formats are at different order of magnitude. Dolby
 TrueHD can be up to 18 Mbit/s and DTS-HD Master Audio up to 24.5 Mbit/s
 those are passed only over HDMI in CE devices.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital#Dolby_Digital_Plus

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTS_%28sound_system%29#DTS-HD_Master_Audio

 BR,
 Seppo


In my case, I have a Samsung T260 screen with fibre out, probably
SPDIF. In this case the monitor would then be my limitation. Should I
get an amp that takes hdmi as input and passes video onto the screen?

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo
On Tue, 2009-11-17 at 12:28 +0200, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
 In my case, I have a Samsung T260 screen with fibre out, probably
 SPDIF. In this case the monitor would then be my limitation. Should I
 get an amp that takes hdmi as input and passes video onto the screen?

If the signal source is Blu-Ray disc then there is IMHO benefit with a
HDMI capable AV receiver (excluding the early crap those were only dumb
switches without audio tapping capability). Personally I've found the
PCM or Dolby/DTS HD tracks sound better via possibly better mix than
standard AC3 tracks. Audio coding improvement should not be that big. 

With just VDR DVB-C/T/S as a source there probably is no real advantage
to upgrade to HDMI only over legacy SPDIF from TV to AVR setup. There
could be usability improvements via CEC control channel though. And I
don't know if CEC is supported by any PC HDMI hardware. (But perhaps in
future VDR could get control from CEC from TV remote control too?)

With my AV receiver HDMI menus it's also possible to select to route the
audio to home theater or TV speakers like in your setup (with home
theater system muted) though I never use TV speakers. They are pretty
bad nowadays. 

This page might be useful

http://www.hdmi.org/installers/index.aspx

BR,
Seppo



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Re: [vdr] mdadm software raid5 arrays?

2009-11-17 Thread Steve

Alex Betis wrote:

I don't record much, so I don't worry about speed.


While there's no denying that RAID5 *at best* has a write speed
equivalent to about 1.3x a single disk and if you're not careful with
stride/block settings can be a lot slower, that's no worse for our
purposes that, erm, having a single disk in the first place. And reading
is *always* faster...

Example. I'm not bothered about write speed (only having 3 tuners) so I
didn't get too carried away setting up my 3-active disk 3TB RAID5 array,
accepting all the default values.

Rough speed test:
#dd if=/dev/zero of=/srv/test/delete.me bs=1M count=1024
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 13.6778 s, 78.5 MB/s

#dd if=/srv/test/delete.me of=/dev/null bs=1M count=1024
1073741824 bytes (1.1 GB) copied, 1.65427 s, 649 MB/s

Don't know about anyone else's setup, but if I were to record all
streams from all tuners, there would still be I/O bandwidth left.
Highest DVB-T channel bandwidth possible appears to be 31.668Mb/s, so
for my 3 tuners equates to about 95Mb/s - that's less than 12 MB/s. The
78MB/s of my RAID5 doesn't seem to be much of an issue then.

Steve



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Re: [vdr] VDR 1.7 and no subtitles with old PES recordings

2009-11-17 Thread Rolf Ahrenberg

On Tue, 6 Oct 2009, j...@mbnet.fi wrote:


I'm contemplating updating my trusty 1.6.0 to the latest
development version, but I can't seem to get DVB subtitles
from old recordings to work.

Subtitles are shown corretly both when viewing live tv and
when viewing new recordings, but when viewing old PES
recordings VDR just says that no subtitles are available.

I'm using vanilla VDR and the xineliboutput plugin.


Zimiq did all the hard work to pinpoint the faulty method: 
http://www.linuxtv.fi/viewtopic.php?p=24394#24394


At least this patch did help on my few old recordings:

--- dvbsubtitle.c.orig   2009-11-17 18:29:16.0 +0200
+++ dvbsubtitle.c   2009-11-17 18:30:44.0 +0200
@@ -699,7 +699,7 @@
 }

  if (Length  PayloadOffset + SubstreamHeaderLength) {
-int64_t pts = PesGetPts(Data);
+int64_t pts = PesHasPts(Data) ? PesGetPts(Data) : 0;
 if (pts)
dbgconverter(Converter PTS: %lld\n, pts);
 const uchar *data = Data + PayloadOffset + SubstreamHeaderLength; // 
skip substream header


BR,
--
rofa

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Luca Olivetti

En/na Seppo Ingalsuo ha escrit:


With just VDR DVB-C/T/S as a source there probably is no real advantage
to upgrade to HDMI only over legacy SPDIF from TV to AVR setup.


If the only planned source is a pc (running vdr and, say, xmbc), would 
it make sense to bypass the av receiver completely and just decode the 
audio on the pc connected to the speakers?
Or it doesn't make sense (since you'll need an amplifier for each 
channel anyway, so you could just as well buy an av receiver)?
Just asking, since with wife, kids, and neighbours, I'll probably have 
to convince myself that the tv speakers are good enough ;-)


Bye
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Luca

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Re: [vdr] Recommendation for new hd vdr system.

2009-11-17 Thread Seppo Ingalsuo

Luca Olivetti wrote:
If the only planned source is a pc (running vdr and, say, xmbc), would 
it make sense to bypass the av receiver completely and just decode the 
audio on the pc connected to the speakers?
Or it doesn't make sense (since you'll need an amplifier for each 
channel anyway, so you could just as well buy an av receiver)?
Good point! I suppose the benefit of going for AVR is better speakers 
management: levels, delays, response correction and subwooofer crossover 
filters. The effects are actually usable. I'm using stereo and surround 
modes from Onkyo AVR. I've been also quite happy  with Audussey setup. A 
pure PC plus amplifiers (class-D modules) could be superior to AVR in 
those tasks but I'm not aware of such developments for e.g. ALSA user 
space or PulseAudio.


Just asking, since with wife, kids, and neighbours, I'll probably have 
to convince myself that the tv speakers are good enough ;-)
The center channel is really good for any TV watching. But my wife is 
not happy without a properly programmed universal remote. A watch VDR 
macro does all the powering and routing.


BR,
Seppo


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Re: [vdr] Replay Problems with Extension HD

2009-11-17 Thread Falk Spitzberg
Hi Klaus (and others)

the replay problem is probably fixed. It was located in the hdplayer
program that runs on the eHD. The fixed version should be available
soon. Thanks to the guy who is known as reel_schorsch on the VDR-Portal.

Falk

Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 19:25 +0200 schrieb Klaus Schmidinger:
 On 07.09.2009 14:41, Falk Spitzberg wrote:
  Am Montag, den 07.09.2009, 15:29 +0300 schrieb Antti Hartikainen:
  On Mon, Sep 07, 2009 at 02:24:48PM +0200, Günter Greschenz wrote:
  Maybe it's ok if I use this opportunity to ask if somebody could
  point me to a complete idiot's guide to installing the eHD software
 
  I've sent some stuff with private mail. Should help you to bring it up
  within a few minutes.
  hi,
  could you send it to me also ? i'm very interested in this card :-)
  thanks, gg
  I'm also interested to see this information. Wouldn't it be good idea to 
  publish it on the list, it would be more useful for the 
  people who are looking for the information =)
  
  
  Let me see if it works for Klaus. Once he has his eHD running using the
  stuff that I've collected, i'll publish it either here or in the VDR
  portal.
 
 Falk, thanks a lot for the guidelines - I really appreciate it!
 
 However, I sure won't be able to test this before next weekend,
 mabe even later, since I first have to debug the fast forwarding
 in SF2 recordings problem.
 So you might as well just post them on the ML for others to try.
 
 Klaus
 
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[vdr] Tuner switch when timer starts recording

2009-11-17 Thread Falk Spitzberg
Hello,

With VDR 1.7.9 i often notice that VDR switches the live TV to a
different receiver card, when a timer starts recording, although the
second card is available. This causes a short interrupt in live TV.

My system has two DVB cards, an old FF and a Tevii S470, and an eHD.

Sample situation 1: the only activity is live TV on ZDF. Now a timer
starts recording from RTL 2, which interrupts the live program for a
short moment.

Sample situation 2: the only activity is live TV on RTL. Now a timer
starts recording from RTL 2. Nothing happens, because VDR correctly
shares the transponder with live TV.

I would understand when VDR switches live TV from the DVB-S2 card to the
DVB-S card when it needs to tune a different transponder for a DVB-S2
recording, but since it can do DVB-S recordings from any card, there is
no reason to switch live TV for such recordings.

Falk


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