Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

On 21.05.2014 16:56, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

I have two usb cards, one with ci. I have a cam that can decrypt multiple 
streams, but if I am recording a encrypted channel and I tune to another 
encrypted channel, I get channel not available. It is possible to tune two 
encrypted channels with that setup?


This should work, as long as the two encrypted channels are on the
same transponder.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Michal Novotny
Why must they be on the same transponder? That was my original question 
in this thread and the answer was different.


So even if I have CAM that can decrypt multiple channels, it cannot 
decrypt multiple channels from different tuners?


Michal

On 05/22/2014 02:15 PM, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

On 21.05.2014 16:56, Jose Alberto Reguero wrote:

I have two usb cards, one with ci. I have a cam that can decrypt
multiple streams, but if I am recording a encrypted channel and I tune
to another encrypted channel, I get channel not available. It is
possible to tune two encrypted channels with that setup?


This should work, as long as the two encrypted channels are on the
same transponder.

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Ralph Metzler
Michal Novotny writes:
  Why must they be on the same transponder? That was my original question 
  in this thread and the answer was different.
  
  So even if I have CAM that can decrypt multiple channels, it cannot 
  decrypt multiple channels from different tuners?

No, with most hardware this is not possible. The transport stream input of the 
CAM-Interface is usually directly connected to the output of the 
tuner/demodulator
of the card it is mounted on or connected to. So, only services in this one
transport stream can be decrypted.

Only on few card models this is not the case and an arbitrary transport stream 
can be sent from the PC memory to a CAM-Interface, through the CAM-Module, and
back to the PC memory.
In this case, you can take partial transport streams from several tuners,
mux them together, send them through the CAM, decrypt them, etc.
But even for those cards VDR does not (yet fully) support this.


Ralph


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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Michal Novotny
Ralph, thanks for explanation. This is compeletely different answer from 
what I got 2 weeks ago. So back to my example from the first post. CI is 
paired with (bound to, connected to or name it as you like) a specific 
tuner and I cannot use Conax CAM in CI connected to WinTV-Nova-CI-S card 
to decrypt transport stream provided by Terratec Cinergy T (DVB-C tuner) 
which doesn't have CI interface.


Michal

On 05/22/2014 03:12 PM, Ralph Metzler wrote:

Michal Novotny writes:
   Why must they be on the same transponder? That was my original question
   in this thread and the answer was different.
  
   So even if I have CAM that can decrypt multiple channels, it cannot
   decrypt multiple channels from different tuners?

No, with most hardware this is not possible. The transport stream input of the
CAM-Interface is usually directly connected to the output of the 
tuner/demodulator
of the card it is mounted on or connected to. So, only services in this one
transport stream can be decrypted.

Only on few card models this is not the case and an arbitrary transport stream
can be sent from the PC memory to a CAM-Interface, through the CAM-Module, and
back to the PC memory.
In this case, you can take partial transport streams from several tuners,
mux them together, send them through the CAM, decrypt them, etc.
But even for those cards VDR does not (yet fully) support this.


Ralph


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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Sami Ketola
Hi,

I think you should be able to decrypt with that configuration. I have my 
card+CAM connected to CI on my Technotrend FF DVB-C card and that decrypts 
channels received by other DVB-C cards. Only limitation is that I can decrypt 
channels received by one tuner at a time. I have not tested for more than 2 
channels at a time.

Sami

On May 22, 2014, at 4:47 PM, Michal Novotny wrote:

 Ralph, thanks for explanation. This is compeletely different answer from what 
 I got 2 weeks ago. So back to my example from the first post. CI is paired 
 with (bound to, connected to or name it as you like) a specific tuner and I 
 cannot use Conax CAM in CI connected to WinTV-Nova-CI-S card to decrypt 
 transport stream provided by Terratec Cinergy T (DVB-C tuner) which doesn't 
 have CI interface.
 
 Michal
 
 On 05/22/2014 03:12 PM, Ralph Metzler wrote:
 Michal Novotny writes:
   Why must they be on the same transponder? That was my original question
   in this thread and the answer was different.
  
   So even if I have CAM that can decrypt multiple channels, it cannot
   decrypt multiple channels from different tuners?
 
 No, with most hardware this is not possible. The transport stream input of 
 the
 CAM-Interface is usually directly connected to the output of the 
 tuner/demodulator
 of the card it is mounted on or connected to. So, only services in this one
 transport stream can be decrypted.
 
 Only on few card models this is not the case and an arbitrary transport 
 stream
 can be sent from the PC memory to a CAM-Interface, through the CAM-Module, 
 and
 back to the PC memory.
 In this case, you can take partial transport streams from several tuners,
 mux them together, send them through the CAM, decrypt them, etc.
 But even for those cards VDR does not (yet fully) support this.
 
 
 Ralph
 
 
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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Ralph Metzler
Sami Ketola writes:
  I think you should be able to decrypt with that configuration. I have my 
  card+CAM connected to CI on my Technotrend FF DVB-C card and that decrypts 
  channels received by other DVB-C cards. Only li


The old Technotrend FF DVB-C card?

Like  http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/FF_Rev._2.1_DVB-C_Cards ?

I doubt that.


Ralph

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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Sami Ketola
On May 22, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Ralph Metzler wrote:

 Sami Ketola writes:
 I think you should be able to decrypt with that configuration. I have my 
 card+CAM connected to CI on my Technotrend FF DVB-C card and that decrypts 
 channels received by other DVB-C cards. Only li
 
 
 The old Technotrend FF DVB-C card?
 
 Like  http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/FF_Rev._2.1_DVB-C_Cards ?

My VDR box is currently powered off and I can't verify as far as I remember 
it's this card.

 I doubt that.

Why?

Sami


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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread Ralph Metzler
Sami Ketola writes:
  On May 22, 2014, at 7:47 PM, Ralph Metzler wrote:
  
   Sami Ketola writes:
   I think you should be able to decrypt with that configuration. I have my 
   card+CAM connected to CI on my Technotrend FF DVB-C card and that 
   decrypts channels received by other DVB-C cards. Only li
   
   
   The old Technotrend FF DVB-C card?
   
   Like  http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/FF_Rev._2.1_DVB-C_Cards ?
  
  My VDR box is currently powered off and I can't verify as far as I remember 
  it's this card.
  
   I doubt that.
  
  Why?

Because I don't see how this would be possible with this hardware.

I hacked around in the firmware of the AV7110 quite a lot back when I wrote the 
driver
and there was no way to send other data besides from the on-board demod to the 
card.
I also do not see any signs of support for anything like this in the current 
driver version 
(just in case somebody found some possibility to do this after I stopped 
working on the
driver).

And, finally, there is no support for this in VDR besides some experimental 
patches
for the ddbridge based cards.


Ralph


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[vdr] shows recording

2014-05-22 Thread jacek burghardt
Coming from mythtv I wonder if there is a way to search for new shows of
series. Does epgsearch has such fundion I use vdradminp-an I would love to
be able to have it search and record new shows
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Re: [vdr] CAM questions

2014-05-22 Thread jacek burghardt
I wonder if this plugin would work for you ?
https://github.com/flensrocker/vdr-plugin-ddci/blob/master/README
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