Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-17 Thread Tommi Lundell
Magnus Hörlin wrote:
 Goga77
 last week. It's arriving tomorrow and it will be very interesting to see if
 it work as well as my 9400-based uATX does.
 /Magnus

This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For 
 /Magnus H
 

Hello

I think to buy GA-E7AUM-DS2H NVIDIA GeForce 9400 motherboard. Can you 
share your experiences whit 9400 based mobo and VDPAU? (And rest your 
notes ofc ;-))
What you mean GA-E7AUM-DS2H NVIDIA GeForce 9400...)?

Tommi

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-17 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Tommi Lundell wrote:
 Magnus Hörlin wrote:
   
 Goga77
 
 last week. It's arriving tomorrow and it will be very interesting to see if
 it work as well as my 9400-based uATX does.
 /Magnus

 
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know
   
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For 
 /Magnus H

 

 Hello

 I think to buy GA-E7AUM-DS2H NVIDIA GeForce 9400 motherboard. Can you 
 share your experiences whit 9400 based mobo and VDPAU? (And rest your 
 notes ofc ;-))
 What you mean GA-E7AUM-DS2H NVIDIA GeForce 9400...)?

 Tommi

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Well, I've had that board since it came out and if I was you I'd wait 
for one of hopefully several Nvidia Ion boards coming out soon. For some 
reason I never managed to make the GA-card work as well as my Ion board 
which is just fantastic. This how the Revo looks mounted on the back of 
my LCD, together with a USB DVD player. HDD, WLAN card and top cover are 
removed since I don't need any of them. As you can see, the performance 
figures while playing killa in XBMC are quite impressive, don't you think?
http://www.minhembio.com/magho
Yes I know, I will tidy up the cable routing! But with only two (AC 
power and ethernet) cables running to the TV that's not a very difficult 
job.
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-17 Thread Karl Glatz
Thats true, but there are a non-ATOM MoBo with a PCIe.

see: http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a419730.html

Greets,
Karl

http://geizhals.at/deutschland/a419730.html

2009/5/12 gimli gi...@dark-green.com

 Disadvantage : No PCI Slot :(

 
 http://www.mini-itx.com/2009/05/04/zotac-ion-itx-atom-mini-itx-board-unboxing-and-salivating
 
  ...which means 1080p HD playback from an embedded Mini-ITX board with a
  fanless 1.6GHz processor whilst consuming 21W.
  The ION-ITX-A has its own DC converter onboard, and is supplied with a
  90W AC Adapter.
 
  Nice silent drop-in replacement for any mini-ITX / micro-ATX mobo.
 
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Goga777 wrote:
 Приветствую, Magnus

 how much does it ?

   
 I couldn't wait for a mini-ITX so I ordered a
 http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9180.html
 last week. It's arriving tomorrow and it will be very interesting to see if
 it work as well as my 9400-based uATX does.
 /Magnus

 
Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good. 
It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video 
decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried. 
This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know 
why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For 
those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I 
don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in 
the bios because I boot it off the network. Anyone who knows how to open 
this wonderful little thing?
/Magnus H


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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Torgeir Veimo
2009/5/16 Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se:

 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good.
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried.
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in
 the bios because I boot it off the network.

With an N230 or 330 processor?

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 2009/5/16 Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se:

   
 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good.
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried.
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in
 the bios because I boot it off the network.
 

 With an N230 or 330 processor?

   
That's a 230 with 2GB RAM. Don't see any need for a 330 for this 
application.


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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread scott
On Sat, 16 May 2009 14:11:55 +0200, Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se
wrote:
 Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 2009/5/16 Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se:

   
 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very
good.
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried.
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't
know
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board.
For
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in
 the bios because I boot it off the network.
 

 With an N230 or 330 processor?

   
 That's a 230 with 2GB RAM. Don't see any need for a 330 for this 
 application.
 
 
Bit off topic but which XBMC skin are you using?

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
scott wrote:
 On Sat, 16 May 2009 14:11:55 +0200, Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se
 wrote:
   
 Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 
 2009/5/16 Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se:

   
   
 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very
 
 good.
   
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried.
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't
 
 know
   
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board.
 
 For
   
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in
 the bios because I boot it off the network.
 
 
 With an N230 or 330 processor?

   
   
 That's a 230 with 2GB RAM. Don't see any need for a 330 for this 
 application.


 
 Bit off topic but which XBMC skin are you using?

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The default skin. Havn't changed anything in xbmc settings except 
enabled vdpau.


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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Nicolas Huillard
Magnus Hörlin a écrit :
 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good. 
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video 
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried. 
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know 
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For 
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I 
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in 
 the bios because I boot it off the network. Anyone who knows how to open 
 this wonderful little thing?

Thanks for the feedback.

Knowing that my EPIA ML6000 draws 25W from the wall (no HDD at all) 
while hardware-decoding MPEG2, using the same kind of power brick, I'd 
say decoding 1080p with 34W is great !
I guess the HDD will still spin, even with SATA disabled at the BIOS. 
You could rip 2 more watts off by unpluging it.

Openning it :
http://hothardware.com/Articles/Acer-Aspire-Revo-SFF-NVIDIA-Ion-PC/?page=3

Does digital sound come out of the box on HDMI only ? No SPDIF of some 
kind ?

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Torgeir Veimo
2009/5/16 Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se:
 With an N230 or 330 processor?

 That's a 230 with 2GB RAM. Don't see any need for a 330 for this
 application.

How much ram does the GPU get allocated with 2GB ram overall? 256MB?

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Goga777
 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good. 
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video 
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried. 
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know 
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For 
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I 
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in 
 the bios because I boot it off the network. Anyone who knows how to open 
 this wonderful little thing?


thanks for your report. 

but can you watch dvb-s2 h264 channels with some usb dvb-card ?

Goga

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Goga777 wrote:
 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good. 
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video 
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried. 
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know 
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For 
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I 
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in 
 the bios because I boot it off the network. Anyone who knows how to open 
 this wonderful little thing?
 


 thanks for your report. 

 but can you watch dvb-s2 h264 channels with some usb dvb-card ?

 Goga

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Not sure about that. I have a vdr server in the attic with six pci-slots 
full of dvb-t and s2 cards and run xineliboutput over the network. Works 
like a charm with vdpau deinterlacing my 1080i channels. The only one 
that doesn't work perfectly yet is SVT HD with 720p50.
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Torgeir Veimo wrote:
 2009/5/16 Magnus Hörlin mag...@alefors.se:
   
 With an N230 or 330 processor?
   

   
 That's a 230 with 2GB RAM. Don't see any need for a 330 for this
 application.
 

 How much ram does the GPU get allocated with 2GB ram overall? 256MB?

   
I allocated 512 MB in the bios but I'm not sure how much is actually 
used. Does anybody know how to see how much the gpu uses?
/Magnus H


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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Nicolas Huillard wrote:
 Magnus Hörlin a écrit :
   
 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good. 
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video 
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried. 
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know 
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For 
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I 
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in 
 the bios because I boot it off the network. Anyone who knows how to open 
 this wonderful little thing?
 

 Thanks for the feedback.

 Knowing that my EPIA ML6000 draws 25W from the wall (no HDD at all) 
 while hardware-decoding MPEG2, using the same kind of power brick, I'd 
 say decoding 1080p with 34W is great !
 I guess the HDD will still spin, even with SATA disabled at the BIOS. 
 You could rip 2 more watts off by unpluging it.

 Openning it :
 http://hothardware.com/Articles/Acer-Aspire-Revo-SFF-NVIDIA-Ion-PC/?page=3

 Does digital sound come out of the box on HDMI only ? No SPDIF of some 
 kind ?

   
Thanks a lot for the link. Will open it as soon as my daughter has 
finished watching High school musical. aplay -l shows no sign of a 
digital output other than hdmi which is a bit odd. I thought there would 
be a header on the mb at least but I guess not. For the moment I'm happy 
with hdmi.
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Goga777
thanks again

which resolution and diagonal size has your TV set ?

Goga



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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Goga777 wrote:
 thanks again

 which resolution and diagonal size has your TV set ?

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Well, currently it's a 37 1366x768 LG LCD which means vdpau has to work 
even harder, downscaling 1080p to 768p. I hope to change that for a 42 
1080p screen this summer since my mother needs a new tv..
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Andrew Herron
Yes the Revo uses the HDMI port to route audio out to TV or a Surround amp.

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Nicolas Huillard nico...@huillard.netwrote:

 Magnus Hörlin a écrit :
  Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very good.
  It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video
  decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried.
  This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't know
  why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board. For
  those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I
  don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in
  the bios because I boot it off the network. Anyone who knows how to open
  this wonderful little thing?

 Thanks for the feedback.

 Knowing that my EPIA ML6000 draws 25W from the wall (no HDD at all)
 while hardware-decoding MPEG2, using the same kind of power brick, I'd
 say decoding 1080p with 34W is great !
 I guess the HDD will still spin, even with SATA disabled at the BIOS.
 You could rip 2 more watts off by unpluging it.

 Openning it :
 http://hothardware.com/Articles/Acer-Aspire-Revo-SFF-NVIDIA-Ion-PC/?page=3

 Does digital sound come out of the box on HDMI only ? No SPDIF of some
 kind ?

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Kimmo Taskinen
Magnus,

What kind of remote controller / IR receiver are you using?
Does it have integrated receiver supporting lirc?

- Kimmo
On 16 May 2009, at 13:55, Magnus Hörlin wrote:

 Well, my first imressions of the ION platform (Acer Revo) are very  
 good.
 It does the vdpau deinterlacing without problems and so far the video
 decoding has not exceeded 1% cpu load for ANY 1080p clip I've tried.
 This is the best VDR frontend/XBMC machine I've ever tried. I don't  
 know
 why, but it works better than my Intel E7200/Nvidia 9400 uATX board.  
 For
 those interested it uses 34W from 220V with the hdd still attached. I
 don't know if it's using any power though, since I've disabled SATA in
 the bios because I boot it off the network. Anyone who knows how to  
 open
 this wonderful little thing?
 /Magnus H


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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Kimmo Taskinen wrote:
 Magnus,

 What kind of remote controller / IR receiver are you using?
 Does it have integrated receiver supporting lirc?

 - Kimmo
 On 16 May 2009, at 13:55, Magnus Hörlin wrote:
I use Microsoft's MCE remote (the only decent thing they ever produced) 
with this.
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread VDR User
Thanks for the feedback on this hardware!  There are many interested
parties (myself included) so it's great to hear some real world
experiences.  Have you tried throwing any VC-1 at it yet?

Regards,
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-16 Thread Magnus Hörlin
VDR User wrote:
 Thanks for the feedback on this hardware!  There are many interested
 parties (myself included) so it's great to hear some real world
 experiences.  Have you tried throwing any VC-1 at it yet?

 Regards,
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Sorry, I don't have any VC-1 content available. Can you point me to some 
links and I'll be happy to try some.
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-13 Thread Alex Betis
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Nicolas Huillard nico...@huillard.netwrote:


 http://www.mini-itx.com/2009/05/04/zotac-ion-itx-atom-mini-itx-board-unboxing-and-salivating

 ...which means 1080p HD playback from an embedded Mini-ITX board with a
 fanless 1.6GHz processor whilst consuming 21W.
 The ION-ITX-A has its own DC converter onboard, and is supplied with a
 90W AC Adapter.

Fanless?!

All the pictures there clearly show the CPU fan.
Ofcause it will be a lot better than other solutions we have today.




 Nice silent drop-in replacement for any mini-ITX / micro-ATX mobo.

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-13 Thread Martin Emrich
Hi!

Alex Betis schrieb:

 Fanless?!
 
 All the pictures there clearly show the CPU fan.
 Ofcause it will be a lot better than other solutions we have today.

I took a look at the website (German: http://www.zotac.de). Only the
dual-core variant shows a CPU fan.

Has anybody already spotted a street price for the different variants?
Especially the one with the external PSU looks interesting...

Ciao

Martin

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-13 Thread H. Langos
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 07:02:16PM +0200, Martin Emrich wrote:
 
 Has anybody already spotted a street price for the different variants?
 Especially the one with the external PSU looks interesting...

Try http://www.preisroboter.de/search.php?search=ZOTAC+ION

cheers
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-12 Thread Magnus Hörlin
I couldn't wait for a mini-ITX so I ordered a
http://www.nordichardware.com/news,9180.html
last week. It's arriving tomorrow and it will be very interesting to see if
it work as well as my 9400-based uATX does.
/Magnus

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 Huillard
 Skickat: den 12 maj 2009 12:54
 Till: Klaus Schmidinger's VDR
 Ämne: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving
 
 http://www.mini-itx.com/2009/05/04/zotac-ion-itx-atom-mini-itx-board-
 unboxing-and-salivating
 
 ...which means 1080p HD playback from an embedded Mini-ITX board with a
 fanless 1.6GHz processor whilst consuming 21W.
 The ION-ITX-A has its own DC converter onboard, and is supplied with a
 90W AC Adapter.
 
 Nice silent drop-in replacement for any mini-ITX / micro-ATX mobo.
 
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-12 Thread gimli
Disadvantage : No PCI Slot :(

 http://www.mini-itx.com/2009/05/04/zotac-ion-itx-atom-mini-itx-board-unboxing-and-salivating

 ...which means 1080p HD playback from an embedded Mini-ITX board with a
 fanless 1.6GHz processor whilst consuming 21W.
 The ION-ITX-A has its own DC converter onboard, and is supplied with a
 90W AC Adapter.

 Nice silent drop-in replacement for any mini-ITX / micro-ATX mobo.

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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-12 Thread Magnus Hörlin
Well, in my world PCI cards have nothing to do in the livingroom or bedroom.
They should be put away in the attic or cellar together with the hdd's and
antenna cables. The first thing I will do when it arrives is remove the hdd
and boot it up from the same nfs directory as my current livingroom VDR/XBMC
client.
/Magnus

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 Disadvantage : No PCI Slot :(
 
  http://www.mini-itx.com/2009/05/04/zotac-ion-itx-atom-mini-itx-board-
 unboxing-and-salivating
 
  ...which means 1080p HD playback from an embedded Mini-ITX board with a
  fanless 1.6GHz processor whilst consuming 21W.
  The ION-ITX-A has its own DC converter onboard, and is supplied with a
  90W AC Adapter.
 
  Nice silent drop-in replacement for any mini-ITX / micro-ATX mobo.
 
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  NH
 
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Re: [vdr] [OT] NVidia ION mini-ITX arriving

2009-05-12 Thread VDR User
I'm excited to try the Nvidia Ion platform for an htpc.  However, I'm
going to wait til the price comes down some.

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