Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-15 Thread Theunis Potgieter
On 14/05/2009, Mikko Tuumanen mikko.tuuma...@utu.fi wrote:
 ke, 2009-05-13 kello 15:55 +0200, Theunis Potgieter kirjoitti:

  Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
   dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.


  Any hints?

  I wrote some instructions for receiving DVB-H:
  http://users.utu.fi/mijutu/digitv/dvb-h/index-en.html

  I guess it would be possible to write a dvbh-plugin that would set up
  dvbnet, receive the rtp packets, wrap the h.264 elementary stream into
  ts packets and feed them to vdr.

  Or how about using VLC for rfc3984 - rfc2250 conversion and then
  receiving the stream back to VDR with the iptv-plugin.


Thanks!

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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-14 Thread Mikko Tuumanen
ke, 2009-05-13 kello 15:55 +0200, Theunis Potgieter kirjoitti:
 Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
 dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.

 Any hints?

I wrote some instructions for receiving DVB-H:
http://users.utu.fi/mijutu/digitv/dvb-h/index-en.html

I guess it would be possible to write a dvbh-plugin that would set up
dvbnet, receive the rtp packets, wrap the h.264 elementary stream into
ts packets and feed them to vdr.

Or how about using VLC for rfc3984 - rfc2250 conversion and then
receiving the stream back to VDR with the iptv-plugin.



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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Patrick Boettcher
Hi Theunis,

On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:

 Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
 dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.

DVB-H is more than just DVB-T plus H264 services. I strongly think that 
what you're having in your country is standard DVB-T with normal H264 
services how they are supported with VDR 1.7.

DVB-H is using also H264 to encode video streams, but is encapsulating it 
in RTP over DVB-MPE. Up to now I don't know any complete DVB-H reception 
chain, though there are some starting points which can be found in the 
dvb-apps repository at linuxtv.org and at other places. But before you're 
diving in to that, I recommend that you're first trying to find out 
whether it is really DVB-H you're looking for or DVB-T with H264. DVB-H 
service however are designs for handheld devices with small screens, most 
likely the video quality will not be very nice when watching it on a 
full-screen desktop/TV replacement.

HTH,
Patrick.

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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Patrick Boettcher
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:

 So far I only pick something up on 586MHz and 706MHz

 w_scan produces this:

 tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
 --no signal--
 tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500: (no signal)
 INT(Provider)
 SS1(Provider)
 SS2(Provider)
 SS3(Provider)
 CNN(Provider)
 eNews(Provider)
 E! Entertainment(Provider)
 SABC(Provider)
 Cartoon Network(Provider)
 ESG CBMS(Provider)
 Bootstrap-Nokia(Provider)
 Nokia-ESG(Provider)

This really looks like a real DVB-H broadcast. You won't be able to use 
this with VDR for now - like I explained in my previous Email.

 Network Name 'Thomson'
 tune to: :706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
 Network Name 'DTT Network'
 M-Net(MCA)
 CSN(MCA)
 MStar(MCA)
 Actio(MCA)
 ChO(MCA)
 Blitz(MCA)
 NaGeo(MCA)
 AJE(MCA)
 dumping lists (21 services)
 M-Net:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:273:34:0:608:1010:0:0:0
 CSN:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:289:290:0:608:1020:0:0:0
 MStar:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:305:306:0:608:1030:0:0:0
 Actio:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:321:322:0:608:1040:0:0:0
 ChO:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:337:0:0:608:1050:0:0:0
 Blitz:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:353:0:0:608:1060:0:0:0
 NaGeo:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:369:0:0:608:1070:0:0:0
 AJE:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:385:32:0:608:1080:0:0:0


 Are those VDR generated channels.conf lines correct?

Please check in README/Manual of VDR or on the Wikis which can be found in 
several places all over the internet. I'm sure this question can be 
answered there ;)

Patrick.

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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Theunis Potgieter
So far I only pick something up on 586MHz and 706MHz

w_scan produces this:

tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
--no signal--
tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500: (no signal)
 INT(Provider)
 SS1(Provider)
 SS2(Provider)
 SS3(Provider)
 CNN(Provider)
 eNews(Provider)
 E! Entertainment(Provider)
 SABC(Provider)
 Cartoon Network(Provider)
 ESG CBMS(Provider)
 Bootstrap-Nokia(Provider)
 Nokia-ESG(Provider)
Network Name 'Thomson'
tune to: :706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
Network Name 'DTT Network'
 M-Net(MCA)
 CSN(MCA)
 MStar(MCA)
 Actio(MCA)
 ChO(MCA)
 Blitz(MCA)
 NaGeo(MCA)
 AJE(MCA)
dumping lists (21 services)
M-Net:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:273:34:0:608:1010:0:0:0
CSN:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:289:290:0:608:1020:0:0:0
MStar:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:305:306:0:608:1030:0:0:0
Actio:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:321:322:0:608:1040:0:0:0
ChO:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:337:0:0:608:1050:0:0:0
Blitz:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:353:0:0:608:1060:0:0:0
NaGeo:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:369:0:0:608:1070:0:0:0
AJE:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:385:32:0:608:1080:0:0:0


Are those VDR generated channels.conf lines correct?
When I try to tune to them VDR says channel unavailable. I'm using vdr-1.6.0p2

Theunis

On 13/05/2009, Patrick Boettcher patrick.boettc...@desy.de wrote:
 Hi Theunis,


  On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:

   Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
   dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.


 DVB-H is more than just DVB-T plus H264 services. I strongly think that
  what you're having in your country is standard DVB-T with normal H264
  services how they are supported with VDR 1.7.

  DVB-H is using also H264 to encode video streams, but is encapsulating it
  in RTP over DVB-MPE. Up to now I don't know any complete DVB-H reception
  chain, though there are some starting points which can be found in the
  dvb-apps repository at linuxtv.org and at other places. But before you're
  diving in to that, I recommend that you're first trying to find out
  whether it is really DVB-H you're looking for or DVB-T with H264. DVB-H
  service however are designs for handheld devices with small screens, most
  likely the video quality will not be very nice when watching it on a
  full-screen desktop/TV replacement.

  HTH,
  Patrick.


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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Theunis Potgieter
My country is South Africa,  (soccer host for world cup 2010) so it
would be nice, if there was any kinda information on dvb-h + vdr.

So would you advise me to move to vdr-1.7.7 to see if I can get H.264?


On 13/05/2009, Patrick Boettcher patrick.boettc...@desy.de wrote:
 On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:


  So far I only pick something up on 586MHz and 706MHz
  
   w_scan produces this:
  
   tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
   --no signal--
   tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500: (no signal)
   INT(Provider)
   SS1(Provider)
   SS2(Provider)
   SS3(Provider)
   CNN(Provider)
   eNews(Provider)
   E! Entertainment(Provider)
   SABC(Provider)
   Cartoon Network(Provider)
   ESG CBMS(Provider)
   Bootstrap-Nokia(Provider)
   Nokia-ESG(Provider)


 This really looks like a real DVB-H broadcast. You won't be able to use
  this with VDR for now - like I explained in my previous Email.


   Network Name 'Thomson'
   tune to: :706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
   Network Name 'DTT Network'
   M-Net(MCA)
   CSN(MCA)
   MStar(MCA)
   Actio(MCA)
   ChO(MCA)
   Blitz(MCA)
   NaGeo(MCA)
   AJE(MCA)
   dumping lists (21 services)
   M-Net:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:273:34:0:608:1010:0:0:0
   CSN:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:289:290:0:608:1020:0:0:0
   MStar:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:305:306:0:608:1030:0:0:0
   Actio:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:321:322:0:608:1040:0:0:0
   ChO:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:337:0:0:608:1050:0:0:0
   Blitz:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:353:0:0:608:1060:0:0:0
   NaGeo:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:369:0:0:608:1070:0:0:0
   AJE:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:385:32:0:608:1080:0:0:0
  
  
   Are those VDR generated channels.conf lines correct?


 Please check in README/Manual of VDR or on the Wikis which can be found in
  several places all over the internet. I'm sure this question can be
  answered there ;)


  Patrick.

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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Patrick Boettcher
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:

 My country is South Africa,  (soccer host for world cup 2010) so it
 would be nice, if there was any kinda information on dvb-h + vdr.

As I said before: DVB-H and VDR I think it will be hard to do and the 
outcome would be minimal, as VDR is a software for full-screen huge 
display sets and DVB-H service is meant for handheld (very small screens).

 So would you advise me to move to vdr-1.7.7 to see if I can get H.264?

Yes, and you may try the old-fashion scan to generate vdr channels.conf . 
It will only give a useful channels.conf when it's not H264 services.

Patrick.

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