Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-09-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
a successor of my vga-sync-fields patch (http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/) now has been released by 'durchflieger' on 'vdr-portal.de' with far more functionality especially for HDTV related things. please see: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=80567 - sparkie

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-09-27 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 08:35:23AM +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: a successor of my vga-sync-fields patch (http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/) now has been released by 'durchflieger' on 'vdr-portal.de' with far more functionality especially for HDTV related things. please see:

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-09-27 Thread Bruno
please see: http://www.vdr-portal.de/board/thread.php?threadid=80567 Too bad the text is not english :( Not at all. Because it’s a good motivation to learn one more language :) _ News, entertainment and everything you care

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-09-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 02:55:31PM +, Bruno wrote: Not at all. Because it?s a good motivation to learn one more language :) the primary intention of the patch was not a German language lesson I think:) the patch itself is written in C and the README is in English. Cheers Thomas

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-10 Thread Goga777
thanks for your answer but for 3d games this problem also actually ? or this issue exists only for video playback ? does your idea actually for new generation cards - ATI HD series, Intel G35/45 chipsets with hdmi output ? currently it does for everything pre-avivo (e.g. before r500

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-09 Thread Goga777
Hi Thomas does your idea actually for new generation cards - ATI HD series, Intel G35/45 chipsets with hdmi output ? Goga ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-09 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sat, Aug 09, 2008 at 11:26:21PM +0400, Goga777 wrote: does your idea actually for new generation cards - ATI HD series, Intel G35/45 chipsets with hdmi output ? currently it does for everything pre-avivo (e.g. before r500 with the exception of rs690 which is a r300-style 3d core but 2d is

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-08 Thread Gavin Hamill
On Tue, 2008-07-22 at 18:37 +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: Hi list, Finally I have had a chance to try these patches - I managed to get an old Radeon 7000 PCI (RV100)... I am using a fresh bare install of Ubuntu hardy which ships xine-lib 1.1.11, but the patches don't compile :( The Makefile.am

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-08-08 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Fri, Aug 08, 2008 at 09:23:34PM +0100, Gavin Hamill wrote: Finally I have had a chance to try these patches - I managed to get an old Radeon 7000 PCI (RV100)... nice! I am using a fresh bare install of Ubuntu hardy which ships xine-lib 1.1.11, but the patches don't compile :( The

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-27 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:37:05PM +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: goal develop a budget card based VDR with PAL/RGB output and FF like output quality VGA-to-SCART RGB adapter like this: http://www.sput.nl/hardware/tv-x.html Hi again! One more question.. Is it possible to output

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-27 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 03:53:01PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: Is it possible to output WSS signal from a VGA card to switch between 4:3 and 16:9 modes? http://www.intersil.com/data/an/an9716.pdf it should be possible to emulate WSS by white dots/lines in a specific scanline. But I did

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-24 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:21:01PM +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:05:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: I assume RGB NTSC should work as well.. ? basically yes. The devil is in the details:) Just give it a try. When xine-lib calls PutImage() it checks whether to

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Torgeir Veimo
On 23 Jul 2008, at 02:37, Thomas Hilber wrote: To a certain degree you can workaround this by software deinterlacing. After some further experimenting I finally found a solution to fine adjust the frame rate of my elderly Radeon type card. Just trimming the length of a few scanlines

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Laz
On Tuesday 22 Jul 2008, Thomas Hilber wrote: solution graphics cards basically are not designed for variable frame rates. Once you have setup their timing you are not provided any means like registers to synchronize the frame rate with external timers. But that's exactly what's

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:51:13PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: A bit off topic.. Does any of the video players for Linux switch to a resolution/modeline with a different refresh rate when watching a movie to get perfect synchronization and no tearing? some time ago I accidentally stumbled

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 03:09:29PM +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 11:51:13PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: A bit off topic.. Does any of the video players for Linux switch to a resolution/modeline with a different refresh rate when watching a movie to get perfect

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:37:05PM +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: It appeared to be a privilege of so called full featured cards (expensive cards running proprietary firmware) to output true RGB PAL at variable framerate. Thus always providing full stream synchronicity. I assume RGB NTSC

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
Hi, On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 06:04:29PM +1000, Torgeir Veimo wrote: Your approach is very interesting, I myself have seen the problems that clock drift has on judder when using softdevice with vdr. yes, that's also my experience with certain xineliboutput - xine-lib version combinations. I

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 09:20:08AM +0100, Laz wrote: that the only cards that could be convinced to sync at such low rates, i.e. 50 Hz for PAL, were the Matrox G400, G450, etc. Whenever I tried setting modelines with any other cards, I never got any output or an error when starting X. also

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-23 Thread Thomas Hilber
On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 05:05:21PM +0300, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote: I assume RGB NTSC should work as well.. ? basically yes. The devil is in the details:) Just give it a try. When xine-lib calls PutImage() it checks whether to increase/decrease Xservers frame rate. This way after a short

[vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-22 Thread Thomas Hilber
Hi list, the last few days I made some interesting experiences with VGA cards I now want to share with you. goal develop a budget card based VDR with PAL/RGB output and FF like output quality problem --- as we all know current VGA graphics output quality suffers from certain

Re: [vdr] RGB/PAL over VGA at variable frame rate

2008-07-22 Thread Pasi Kärkkäinen
On Tue, Jul 22, 2008 at 06:37:05PM +0200, Thomas Hilber wrote: Hi list, the last few days I made some interesting experiences with VGA cards I now want to share with you. goal develop a budget card based VDR with PAL/RGB output and FF like output quality problem --- as