Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-14 Thread Theunis Potgieter
On 14/05/2009, Mikko Tuumanen  wrote:
> ke, 2009-05-13 kello 15:55 +0200, Theunis Potgieter kirjoitti:
>
> > Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
>  > dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.
>
>
> > Any hints?
>
>  I wrote some instructions for receiving DVB-H:
>  http://users.utu.fi/mijutu/digitv/dvb-h/index-en.html
>
>  I guess it would be possible to write a dvbh-plugin that would set up
>  dvbnet, receive the rtp packets, wrap the h.264 elementary stream into
>  ts packets and feed them to vdr.
>
>  Or how about using VLC for rfc3984 -> rfc2250 conversion and then
>  receiving the stream back to VDR with the iptv-plugin.
>

Thanks!

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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-14 Thread Mikko Tuumanen
ke, 2009-05-13 kello 15:55 +0200, Theunis Potgieter kirjoitti:
> Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
> dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.

> Any hints?

I wrote some instructions for receiving DVB-H:
http://users.utu.fi/mijutu/digitv/dvb-h/index-en.html

I guess it would be possible to write a dvbh-plugin that would set up
dvbnet, receive the rtp packets, wrap the h.264 elementary stream into
ts packets and feed them to vdr.

Or how about using VLC for rfc3984 -> rfc2250 conversion and then
receiving the stream back to VDR with the iptv-plugin.



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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Patrick Boettcher
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:

> My country is South Africa,  (soccer host for world cup 2010) so it
> would be nice, if there was any kinda information on dvb-h + vdr.

As I said before: DVB-H and VDR I think it will be hard to do and the 
outcome would be minimal, as VDR is a software for full-screen huge 
display sets and DVB-H service is meant for handheld (very small screens).

> So would you advise me to move to vdr-1.7.7 to see if I can get H.264?

Yes, and you may try the old-fashion scan to generate vdr channels.conf . 
It will only give a useful channels.conf when it's not H264 services.

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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Theunis Potgieter
My country is South Africa,  (soccer host for world cup 2010) so it
would be nice, if there was any kinda information on dvb-h + vdr.

So would you advise me to move to vdr-1.7.7 to see if I can get H.264?


On 13/05/2009, Patrick Boettcher  wrote:
> On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
>
>
> > So far I only pick something up on 586MHz and 706MHz
>  >
>  > w_scan produces this:
>  >
>  > tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
>  > --no signal--
>  > tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500: (no signal)
>  > INT(Provider)
>  > SS1(Provider)
>  > SS2(Provider)
>  > SS3(Provider)
>  > CNN(Provider)
>  > eNews(Provider)
>  > E! Entertainment(Provider)
>  > SABC(Provider)
>  > Cartoon Network(Provider)
>  > ESG CBMS(Provider)
>  > Bootstrap-Nokia(Provider)
>  > Nokia-ESG(Provider)
>
>
> This really looks like a real DVB-H broadcast. You won't be able to use
>  this with VDR for now - like I explained in my previous Email.
>
>
>  > Network Name 'Thomson'
>  > tune to: :706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
>  > Network Name 'DTT Network'
>  > M-Net(MCA)
>  > CSN(MCA)
>  > MStar(MCA)
>  > Actio(MCA)
>  > ChO(MCA)
>  > Blitz(MCA)
>  > NaGeo(MCA)
>  > AJE(MCA)
>  > dumping lists (21 services)
>  > M-Net:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:273:34:0:608:1010:0:0:0
>  > CSN:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:289:290:0:608:1020:0:0:0
>  > MStar:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:305:306:0:608:1030:0:0:0
>  > Actio:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:321:322:0:608:1040:0:0:0
>  > ChO:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:337:0:0:608:1050:0:0:0
>  > Blitz:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:353:0:0:608:1060:0:0:0
>  > NaGeo:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:369:0:0:608:1070:0:0:0
>  > AJE:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:385:32:0:608:1080:0:0:0
>  >
>  >
>  > Are those VDR generated channels.conf lines correct?
>
>
> Please check in README/Manual of VDR or on the Wikis which can be found in
>  several places all over the internet. I'm sure this question can be
>  answered there ;)
>
>
>  Patrick.
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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Patrick Boettcher
On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:

> So far I only pick something up on 586MHz and 706MHz
>
> w_scan produces this:
>
> tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
> --no signal--
> tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500: (no signal)
> INT(Provider)
> SS1(Provider)
> SS2(Provider)
> SS3(Provider)
> CNN(Provider)
> eNews(Provider)
> E! Entertainment(Provider)
> SABC(Provider)
> Cartoon Network(Provider)
> ESG CBMS(Provider)
> Bootstrap-Nokia(Provider)
> Nokia-ESG(Provider)

This really looks like a real DVB-H broadcast. You won't be able to use 
this with VDR for now - like I explained in my previous Email.

> Network Name 'Thomson'
> tune to: :706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
> Network Name 'DTT Network'
> M-Net(MCA)
> CSN(MCA)
> MStar(MCA)
> Actio(MCA)
> ChO(MCA)
> Blitz(MCA)
> NaGeo(MCA)
> AJE(MCA)
> dumping lists (21 services)
> M-Net:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:273:34:0:608:1010:0:0:0
> CSN:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:289:290:0:608:1020:0:0:0
> MStar:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:305:306:0:608:1030:0:0:0
> Actio:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:321:322:0:608:1040:0:0:0
> ChO:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:337:0:0:608:1050:0:0:0
> Blitz:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:353:0:0:608:1060:0:0:0
> NaGeo:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:369:0:0:608:1070:0:0:0
> AJE:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:385:32:0:608:1080:0:0:0
>
>
> Are those VDR generated channels.conf lines correct?

Please check in README/Manual of VDR or on the Wikis which can be found in 
several places all over the internet. I'm sure this question can be 
answered there ;)

Patrick.

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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Theunis Potgieter
So far I only pick something up on 586MHz and 706MHz

w_scan produces this:

tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
--no signal--
tune to: :586000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500: (no signal)
 INT(Provider)
 SS1(Provider)
 SS2(Provider)
 SS3(Provider)
 CNN(Provider)
 eNews(Provider)
 E! Entertainment(Provider)
 SABC(Provider)
 Cartoon Network(Provider)
 ESG CBMS(Provider)
 Bootstrap-Nokia(Provider)
 Nokia-ESG(Provider)
Network Name 'Thomson'
tune to: :706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:
Network Name 'DTT Network'
 M-Net(MCA)
 CSN(MCA)
 MStar(MCA)
 Actio(MCA)
 ChO(MCA)
 Blitz(MCA)
 NaGeo(MCA)
 AJE(MCA)
dumping lists (21 services)
M-Net:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:273:34:0:608:1010:0:0:0
CSN:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:289:290:0:608:1020:0:0:0
MStar:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:305:306:0:608:1030:0:0:0
Actio:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:321:322:0:608:1040:0:0:0
ChO:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:337:0:0:608:1050:0:0:0
Blitz:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:353:0:0:608:1060:0:0:0
NaGeo:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:369:0:0:608:1070:0:0:0
AJE:706000:I999B8C999D999M999T999G999Y0:T:27500:385:32:0:608:1080:0:0:0


Are those VDR generated channels.conf lines correct?
When I try to tune to them VDR says channel unavailable. I'm using vdr-1.6.0p2

Theunis

On 13/05/2009, Patrick Boettcher  wrote:
> Hi Theunis,
>
>
>  On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:
>
>  > Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
>  > dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.
>
>
> DVB-H is more than just DVB-T plus H264 services. I strongly think that
>  what you're having in your country is standard DVB-T with normal H264
>  services how they are supported with VDR 1.7.
>
>  DVB-H is using also H264 to encode video streams, but is encapsulating it
>  in RTP over DVB-MPE. Up to now I don't know any complete DVB-H reception
>  chain, though there are some starting points which can be found in the
>  dvb-apps repository at linuxtv.org and at other places. But before you're
>  diving in to that, I recommend that you're first trying to find out
>  whether it is really DVB-H you're looking for or DVB-T with H264. DVB-H
>  service however are designs for handheld devices with small screens, most
>  likely the video quality will not be very nice when watching it on a
>  full-screen desktop/TV replacement.
>
>  HTH,
>  Patrick.
>
>
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Re: [vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Patrick Boettcher
Hi Theunis,

On Wed, 13 May 2009, Theunis Potgieter wrote:

> Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
> dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.

DVB-H is more than just DVB-T plus H264 services. I strongly think that 
what you're having in your country is standard DVB-T with normal H264 
services how they are supported with VDR 1.7.

DVB-H is using also H264 to encode video streams, but is encapsulating it 
in RTP over DVB-MPE. Up to now I don't know any complete DVB-H reception 
chain, though there are some starting points which can be found in the 
dvb-apps repository at linuxtv.org and at other places. But before you're 
diving in to that, I recommend that you're first trying to find out 
whether it is really DVB-H you're looking for or DVB-T with H264. DVB-H 
service however are designs for handheld devices with small screens, most 
likely the video quality will not be very nice when watching it on a 
full-screen desktop/TV replacement.

HTH,
Patrick.

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[vdr] DVB-H

2009-05-13 Thread Theunis Potgieter
Hi, is dvb-h a subset of dvb-t? our country decided to switch on
dvb-t, we receive dvb-t and dvb-h with h.264.

w_scan doesn't produce a channels.conf for what appears to be dvb-h

Any hints?

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