Re: [vdr] Freezes with Reiserfs

2007-04-24 Thread Guido Fiala
On Tuesday 24 April 2007 19:34, Udo Richter wrote:
> AFAIK notail disables reiser's ability to pack small (<12k) files
> together, and since recordings are just a little bit bigger, I don't
> think that this would help.

Yes and no- it doesn't have to gather / manage tails that way and there are 
also los of small files in the video-dir/same partition.

> The time I had this issue, I was excessively using VDR's ability to
> automatically delete old recordings, so free disk space was always
> running down to 1 GByte (39 min), and this remaining GByte was mostly
> fragmented down to thousands of pieces of a few KBytes. I doubt that any
> other file system would do better.

Most system start to degrade heavily from 70% filled.

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Re: [vdr] Freezes with Reiserfs

2007-04-24 Thread Udo Richter

Guido Fiala wrote:
Maybe you should mount reiserfs with the "notail" option for video-partitions, 
which should kill most of the overhead. I run reiserfs with vdr since 10 
years or so, no problems at all even when running in 100% used diskspace 
often.


AFAIK notail disables reiser's ability to pack small (<12k) files 
together, and since recordings are just a little bit bigger, I don't 
think that this would help.


The time I had this issue, I was excessively using VDR's ability to 
automatically delete old recordings, so free disk space was always 
running down to 1 GByte (39 min), and this remaining GByte was mostly 
fragmented down to thousands of pieces of a few KBytes. I doubt that any 
other file system would do better.


Cheers,

Udo


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Re: [vdr] Freezes with Reiserfs

2007-04-23 Thread Guido Fiala
On Monday 23 April 2007 21:37, Udo Richter wrote:
> Sven Schwyn wrote:
> > However, I've seen that some people had issues a few years ago with
> > ReiserFS (which I'm using, too). Now, I'm wondering if anybody using
> > ReiserFS had system freezes as well.
>
> I had issues, and I'm still using Reiser3 for my video storage.
>
> On slow platforms, with a stressed out file system, Reiser may be
> CPU-limited on throughput. But you have to run VDR for a long time with
> disk almost full, and with lots of recordings coming and going to get
> that level of fragmentation. And I'm not convinced that other file
> systems would do better in these situations.
>
> Beside that, Reiser3 works fine for me. No total freezes I know of.

Maybe you should mount reiserfs with the "notail" option for video-partitions, 
which should kill most of the overhead. I run reiserfs with vdr since 10 
years or so, no problems at all even when running in 100% used diskspace 
often.

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Re: [vdr] Freezes with Reiserfs

2007-04-23 Thread Udo Richter

Sven Schwyn wrote:
However, I've seen that some people had issues a few years ago with 
ReiserFS (which I'm using, too). Now, I'm wondering if anybody using 
ReiserFS had system freezes as well.


I had issues, and I'm still using Reiser3 for my video storage.

On slow platforms, with a stressed out file system, Reiser may be 
CPU-limited on throughput. But you have to run VDR for a long time with 
disk almost full, and with lots of recordings coming and going to get 
that level of fragmentation. And I'm not convinced that other file 
systems would do better in these situations.


Beside that, Reiser3 works fine for me. No total freezes I know of.

Cheers,

Udo


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Re: [vdr] Freezes with Reiserfs

2007-04-23 Thread Artur Skawina
Sven Schwyn wrote:
> I'm having strange issues with my VDR box lately. However, I'm not sure
> at all it has anything to do with VDR as other services are running on
> it, too.
> 
> The Gentoo box freezed four times in the past month, twice of which the
> very minute a VDR timer stopped. (Maybe even all four times, but I

one thing that comes to mind is that vdr calls fdatasync when closing an mpg
file, maybe this trips up reiserfs somehow. You could try to comment out that
call (in tools.c cUnbufferedFile::Close). Also apparently there is some reiserfs
option to reduce the writeout rate, maybe turning that off would help.

artur

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[vdr] Freezes with Reiserfs

2007-04-22 Thread Sven Schwyn

Hi

I'm having strange issues with my VDR box lately. However, I'm not  
sure at all it has anything to do with VDR as other services are  
running on it, too.


The Gentoo box freezed four times in the past month, twice of which  
the very minute a VDR timer stopped. (Maybe even all four times, but  
I haven't checked that relation the first two times it happened.) The  
log doesn't help a bit, the machine simply ceases to do anyting. I've  
checked RAM and other parts of the system with no indication at all.


However, I've seen that some people had issues a few years ago with  
ReiserFS (which I'm using, too). Now, I'm wondering if anybody using  
ReiserFS had system freezes as well.


media-plugins/vdr-dvd-0.3.7_pre20070117
media-plugins/vdr-femon-1.1.0
media-plugins/vdr-mplayer-0.9.15
media-plugins/vdr-muggle-0.1.11-r1
media-plugins/vdr-nordlichtsepg-0.8a
media-plugins/vdr-osdteletext-0.5.1
media-plugins/vdr-radio-0.2.0
media-plugins/vdr-setup-0.3.1
media-plugins/vdr-softdevice-0.3.1.20070313
media-plugins/vdr-streamdev-server-0.3.3_pre20061206
media-plugins/vdr-yaepg-0.0.2.1
media-tv/gentoo-vdr-scripts-0.3.8
media-tv/vdrplugin-rebuild-0.2
media-video/vdr-1.4.5

Kernel: 2.6.19

Cheers,  -sven


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