Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-17 Thread Dave
Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> Mlists wrote:
>   
>> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:23 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
>> 
>>> Mlists wrote:
>>>   
 On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
 
> mlists wrote:
>   
>> I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
>> that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?
>> 
> VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.
>
>   
 Doh -- are there any plans on supporting ATSC QAM_256 in the future? 
 
>>> Depends on what it takes to do that.
>>> Is this just another modulation type that needs to
>>> be set, or is this totally different from the DVB standard
>>> with respect to the SI data etc.?
>>>
>>>   
>> >From what I see you already support the modulation (256).  I'm not
>> familiar enough with ATSC to know if it's more then that.  It is DVB
>> from what I understand.  I use DVB tools with it.  It's supported in
>> MythTV using the same DVB card type as satellite dvb cards.  Does any of
>> that help?
>> 
>
> I just came across an older posting from Clem Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> that suggested something in that direction.
>
> See http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2006-March/008418.html
>
> Klaus
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There was also work done to VDR to get DVB 8PSK working as well.  Its
quite successful here in North American HDTV Satellite used with an
external usb device called a genpix.

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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-17 Thread Dave
yea the frontend supports it, but its otherwise useless.

Mlists wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:06 -0400, Dave wrote:
>> >From what Im reading, the air2pc  ATSC card only supports 8VSB, no
>> support for QAM at all.
>>
>>
>>
>> 
>
> hmm... but this is what I get with dvbsnoop:
>
> dvbsnoop -s feinfo -adapter 1
> dvbsnoop V1.4.00 -- http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/
>
> -
> FrontEnd Info...
> -
>
> Device: /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0
>
> Basic capabilities:
> Name: "Broadcom BCM3510 VSB/QAM frontend"
> Frontend-type:   unkonwn
> Frequency (min): 54000.000
> Frequency (max): 803000.000
> Frequency stepsiz:   0.000
> Frequency tolerance: 0
> Symbol rate (min): 0.00 MSym/s
> Symbol rate (max): 0.00 MSym/s
> Symbol rate tolerance: 0 ppm
> Notifier delay: 0 ms
> Frontend capabilities:
> auto inversion
> FEC 1/2
> FEC 2/3
> FEC 3/4
> FEC 5/6
> FEC 7/8
> FEC AUTO
> QAM 16
> QAM 64
> QAM 128
> QAM 256
>
> Current parameters:
> Error(95): frontend ioctl: Operation not supported
>
> Damn, maybe this is only the frontend too -- perhaps I have a card I
> can't use.
>
> Norm
> 
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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-17 Thread mlists
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 14:52 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> Mlists wrote:
> > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:23 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
> >> Mlists wrote:
> >> > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
> >> >> mlists wrote:
> >> >> > I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  
> >> >> > Would
> >> >> > that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?
> >> >>
> >> >> VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.
> >> >>
> >> > 
> >> > Doh -- are there any plans on supporting ATSC QAM_256 in the future? 
> >>
> >> Depends on what it takes to do that.
> >> Is this just another modulation type that needs to
> >> be set, or is this totally different from the DVB standard
> >> with respect to the SI data etc.?
> >>
> > 
> >>From what I see you already support the modulation (256).  I'm not
> > familiar enough with ATSC to know if it's more then that.  It is DVB
> > from what I understand.  I use DVB tools with it.  It's supported in
> > MythTV using the same DVB card type as satellite dvb cards.  Does any of
> > that help?
> 
> I just came across an older posting from Clem Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> that suggested something in that direction.
> 
> See http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2006-March/008418.html
> 
> Klaus

Alas, I don't believe my card supports QAM256 as was first indicated.
So I guess this one goes back up on Ebay and I search for another decent
card.

Norm


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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-17 Thread Klaus Schmidinger
Mlists wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:23 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
>> Mlists wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> >> mlists wrote:
>> >> > I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
>> >> > that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?
>> >>
>> >> VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.
>> >>
>> > 
>> > Doh -- are there any plans on supporting ATSC QAM_256 in the future? 
>>
>> Depends on what it takes to do that.
>> Is this just another modulation type that needs to
>> be set, or is this totally different from the DVB standard
>> with respect to the SI data etc.?
>>
> 
>>From what I see you already support the modulation (256).  I'm not
> familiar enough with ATSC to know if it's more then that.  It is DVB
> from what I understand.  I use DVB tools with it.  It's supported in
> MythTV using the same DVB card type as satellite dvb cards.  Does any of
> that help?

I just came across an older posting from Clem Herbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
that suggested something in that direction.

See http://www.linuxtv.org/pipermail/vdr/2006-March/008418.html

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-17 Thread Mlists




On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:06 -0400, Dave wrote:


>From what Im reading, the air2pc  ATSC card only supports 8VSB, no
support for QAM at all.






hmm... but this is what I get with dvbsnoop:

dvbsnoop -s feinfo -adapter 1
dvbsnoop V1.4.00 -- http://dvbsnoop.sourceforge.net/

-
FrontEnd Info...
-

Device: /dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0

Basic capabilities:
    Name: "Broadcom BCM3510 VSB/QAM frontend"
    Frontend-type:   unkonwn
    Frequency (min): 54000.000
    Frequency (max): 803000.000
    Frequency stepsiz:   0.000
    Frequency tolerance: 0
    Symbol rate (min): 0.00 MSym/s
    Symbol rate (max): 0.00 MSym/s
    Symbol rate tolerance: 0 ppm
    Notifier delay: 0 ms
    Frontend capabilities:
    auto inversion
    FEC 1/2
    FEC 2/3
    FEC 3/4
    FEC 5/6
    FEC 7/8
    FEC AUTO
    QAM 16
    QAM 64
    QAM 128
    QAM 256

Current parameters:
Error(95): frontend ioctl: Operation not supported

Damn, maybe this is only the frontend too -- perhaps I have a card I can't use.

Norm


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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-16 Thread Dave
>From what Im reading, the air2pc  ATSC card only supports 8VSB, no
support for QAM at all.



Mlists wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:23 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:
>> Mlists wrote:
>> > On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> >> mlists wrote:
>> >> > I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
>> >> > that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?
>> >>
>> >> VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.
>> >>
>> > 
>> > Doh -- are there any plans on supporting ATSC QAM_256 in the future? 
>>
>> Depends on what it takes to do that.
>> Is this just another modulation type that needs to
>> be set, or is this totally different from the DVB standard
>> with respect to the SI data etc.?
>>
>> 
>
> >From what I see you already support the modulation (256).  I'm not
> familiar enough with ATSC to know if it's more then that.  It is DVB
> from what I understand.  I use DVB tools with it.  It's supported in
> MythTV using the same DVB card type as satellite dvb cards.  Does any
> of that help?
>
> Norm
> 
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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-16 Thread Mlists




On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 22:23 +0200, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:


Mlists wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:
>> mlists wrote:
>> > I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
>> > that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?
>>
>> VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.
>>
> 
> Doh -- are there any plans on supporting ATSC QAM_256 in the future? 

Depends on what it takes to do that.
Is this just another modulation type that needs to
be set, or is this totally different from the DVB standard
with respect to the SI data etc.?




>From what I see you already support the modulation (256).  I'm not familiar enough with ATSC to know if it's more then that.  It is DVB from what I understand.  I use DVB tools with it.  It's supported in MythTV using the same DVB card type as satellite dvb cards.  Does any of that help?

Norm


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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-16 Thread Klaus Schmidinger

Mlists wrote:

On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:

mlists wrote:
> I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
> that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?

VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.



Doh -- are there any plans on supporting ATSC QAM_256 in the future? 


Depends on what it takes to do that.
Is this just another modulation type that needs to
be set, or is this totally different from the DVB standard
with respect to the SI data etc.?

Klaus

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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-16 Thread Mlists




On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 20:38 +0300, Anssi Hannula wrote:


mlists wrote:
> I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
> that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?

VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.




Doh -- are there any plans on supporting ATSC QAM_256 in the future?  


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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-16 Thread Anssi Hannula
mlists wrote:
> I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
> that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?

VDR doesn't currently support ATSC.

-- 
Anssi Hannula


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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-16 Thread mlists
Sadly, no.  I picked this card up on Ebay for $30 *S* so if it works out
then great!  Solves my analog issues too.

Can anyone offer a suggestion on this problem?  I have tried to limit
vdr to only looking at the ATSC card and it made no difference.

Norm

On Wed, 2006-08-16 at 08:40 -0700, Simon Baxter wrote:
> Have you made any progress on this?
> 
> I've been waiting for someone to respond - if you can get the card working, 
> I'd consider getting one
> - Original Message - 
> From: "mlists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "VDR Mailing List" 
> Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:51 AM
> Subject: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help
> 
> 
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I have an Air2PC Skystar 2 card and a Twinhan 1020a.  I've been using
> > the Twinhan for several years now with VDR and am quite happy with how
> > its working.
> >
> > I recently added the Air2PC card.  Both are seen by the OS:
> > 00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video
> > Capture (rev 11)
> > 00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture
> > (rev 11)
> > 00:0c.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII
> > DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)
> >
> > The twinhan is under /dev/dvb/adapter0 and the Air2PC is
> > under /dev/dvb/adapter1.
> >
> > VDR verion 1.4.1-3
> >
> > I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
> > that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?
> >
> > This is the single channel line I'm using to try and get this working:
> > :@6
> > A-Channel:729:C0M256:C:0:21:24:0:1:6:0:0:0
> > Details are:
> > Freq (Mhz) 729.0
> > QAM_256
> > C
> > Video PID 21
> > Audio PID 24
> > CA 1 (for card number 1?  -- does this start at 0? I've tried different
> > numbers here)
> > SID 6 (Same as channel I believe)
> >
> > Every attempt to change to this channel results in a "Channel not
> > Available".
> >
> > Any suggestions??
> >
> > Thanks in advance!
> > Norm
> >
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Re: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-16 Thread Simon Baxter
Have you made any progress on this?

I've been waiting for someone to respond - if you can get the card working, 
I'd consider getting one
- Original Message - 
From: "mlists" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "VDR Mailing List" 
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2006 5:51 AM
Subject: [vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help


> Hi there,
>
> I have an Air2PC Skystar 2 card and a Twinhan 1020a.  I've been using
> the Twinhan for several years now with VDR and am quite happy with how
> its working.
>
> I recently added the Air2PC card.  Both are seen by the OS:
> 00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video
> Capture (rev 11)
> 00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture
> (rev 11)
> 00:0c.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII
> DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)
>
> The twinhan is under /dev/dvb/adapter0 and the Air2PC is
> under /dev/dvb/adapter1.
>
> VDR verion 1.4.1-3
>
> I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
> that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?
>
> This is the single channel line I'm using to try and get this working:
> :@6
> A-Channel:729:C0M256:C:0:21:24:0:1:6:0:0:0
> Details are:
> Freq (Mhz) 729.0
> QAM_256
> C
> Video PID 21
> Audio PID 24
> CA 1 (for card number 1?  -- does this start at 0? I've tried different
> numbers here)
> SID 6 (Same as channel I believe)
>
> Every attempt to change to this channel results in a "Channel not
> Available".
>
> Any suggestions??
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Norm
>
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[vdr] VDR with ATSC card -- need help

2006-08-15 Thread mlists
Hi there,

I have an Air2PC Skystar 2 card and a Twinhan 1020a.  I've been using
the Twinhan for several years now with VDR and am quite happy with how
its working.

I recently added the Air2PC card.  Both are seen by the OS:
00:0b.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video
Capture (rev 11)
00:0b.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture
(rev 11)
00:0c.0 Network controller: Techsan Electronics Co Ltd B2C2 FlexCopII
DVB chip / Technisat SkyStar2 DVB card (rev 02)

The twinhan is under /dev/dvb/adapter0 and the Air2PC is
under /dev/dvb/adapter1.

VDR verion 1.4.1-3

I confirmed in my sources.conf that I have an entry for C Cable.  Would
that be what to use for ATSC Cable (North America)?

This is the single channel line I'm using to try and get this working:
:@6
A-Channel:729:C0M256:C:0:21:24:0:1:6:0:0:0
Details are:  
Freq (Mhz) 729.0
QAM_256
C
Video PID 21
Audio PID 24
CA 1 (for card number 1?  -- does this start at 0? I've tried different
numbers here)
SID 6 (Same as channel I believe)

Every attempt to change to this channel results in a "Channel not
Available".

Any suggestions??

Thanks in advance!
Norm


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