Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 12:43:59 +, Tony Houghton wrote: > On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:43:42 +0100 > gimli wrote: > >> Two things to mention about vaapi : >> >> 1.) Use xf86-video-intel-2.15.0 > > Do you mean at least 2.15, or are there problems with later versions > like 2.17? > >> 2.) Forget sxfe in combination with vaapi. sxfe plays bad tricks with >> the stream and is not able to do a clean reinitialize of the output >> when the stream is changing. > > Another issue is compositing. This is the future of window management > and some people like (OK, tolerate) GNOME 3 and even Unity, so saying, > "Don't use compositing" isn't good enough long term IMO. On my Ion > 2-based nettop I can watch video in GNOME 3 OK, but I'm not sure vsync > works with it OK on my NVidia 8200-based HTPC. I don't mind using xfce4 > on that for now, because I don't use it for much else. But I've got two > other machines with Intel graphics on which I'd rather use GNOME 3 than > xfce4 and still be able to watch video without tearing, and I haven't > managed that so far :-(. This issue you have to clearly bug at the intel developers at freedesktop.org. > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync
On Mon, 26 Dec 2011 10:43:42 +0100 gimli wrote: > Two things to mention about vaapi : > > 1.) Use xf86-video-intel-2.15.0 Do you mean at least 2.15, or are there problems with later versions like 2.17? > 2.) Forget sxfe in combination with vaapi. sxfe plays bad tricks with > the stream and is not able to do a clean reinitialize of the output > when the stream is changing. Another issue is compositing. This is the future of window management and some people like (OK, tolerate) GNOME 3 and even Unity, so saying, "Don't use compositing" isn't good enough long term IMO. On my Ion 2-based nettop I can watch video in GNOME 3 OK, but I'm not sure vsync works with it OK on my NVidia 8200-based HTPC. I don't mind using xfce4 on that for now, because I don't use it for much else. But I've got two other machines with Intel graphics on which I'd rather use GNOME 3 than xfce4 and still be able to watch video without tearing, and I haven't managed that so far :-(. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync
Two things to mention about vaapi : 1.) Use xf86-video-intel-2.15.0 2.) Forget sxfe in combination with vaapi. sxfe plays bad tricks with the stream and is not able to do a clean reinitialize of the output when the stream is changing. On Sun, 25 Dec 2011 22:44:42 +0200, j...@mbnet.fi wrote: > On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:14:05PM +0100, Nicolas Huillard wrote: >> I have the same issue on SandyBridge (vdr 1.7.22-1~ctvdr2, >> xineliboutput-sxfe 1.0.7+cvs20111211.1625-1). >> Are there some news since then ? > > I built a new SandyBridge-based VDR-machine last May and > was sorely disappointed by the intel video drivers. My > initial solution was an old nvidia card, but about a month > ago I finally found a tear-free combination of drivers > and settings. > > .xine/config_xineliboutput: > video.output.opengl_renderer:2D_Tex > > vdr-sxfe --video=opengl > > I run a gentoo system and the following versions are > propably relevant: > > x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.17.0-r3 > media-libs/xine-lib-1.2. > > Vdr is 1.7.22, xineliboutput is from cvs and I do not > use compositing or even a window manager. > > > HTH and YMMV ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync
On Sat, Dec 24, 2011 at 12:14:05PM +0100, Nicolas Huillard wrote: > I have the same issue on SandyBridge (vdr 1.7.22-1~ctvdr2, > xineliboutput-sxfe 1.0.7+cvs20111211.1625-1). > Are there some news since then ? I built a new SandyBridge-based VDR-machine last May and was sorely disappointed by the intel video drivers. My initial solution was an old nvidia card, but about a month ago I finally found a tear-free combination of drivers and settings. .xine/config_xineliboutput: video.output.opengl_renderer:2D_Tex vdr-sxfe --video=opengl I run a gentoo system and the following versions are propably relevant: x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel-2.17.0-r3 media-libs/xine-lib-1.2. Vdr is 1.7.22, xineliboutput is from cvs and I do not use compositing or even a window manager. HTH and YMMV -- Juho Törmä ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync
Le jeudi 03 novembre 2011 à 20:57 +, Tony Houghton a écrit : > On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:00:10 +0200 > prelude wrote: > > > This maybe help: > > http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README > > No, that's so you can slightly adjust the rate at which the display is > refreshed to match the rate at which you're receiving the stream. That's > a non-issue if you can't sync your frame changes to the refresh! I have the same issue on SandyBridge (vdr 1.7.22-1~ctvdr2, xineliboutput-sxfe 1.0.7+cvs20111211.1625-1). Are there some news since then ? -- NH ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync
On Thu, 03 Nov 2011 22:00:10 +0200 prelude wrote: > This maybe help: > http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README No, that's so you can slightly adjust the rate at which the display is refreshed to match the rate at which you're receiving the stream. That's a non-issue if you can't sync your frame changes to the refresh! > On 11/01/2011 07:01 PM, Tony Houghton wrote: > > When using NVidia graphics cards and the proprietary driver I find > > vdr-sxfe looks quite smooth even with a monitor that only supports > > 60Hz. I think it's been syncing to the vertical blank > > "automagically". But with other graphics cards I get a lot of > > tearing which is marring my viewing pleasure. This is happening > > both with Intel Sandy Bridge (normal monitor) and a Radeon 5450 > > with fglrx connected to a TV. The free ati driver isn't a practical > > option on that because the HDMI audio doesn't work with it. I'm > > using the xv output in each case. Is there a way to make vdr-sxfe > > sync to the vertical blank with these cards/drivers? > > > > ___ > > vdr mailing list > > vdr@linuxtv.org > > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] sxfe and vsync
This maybe help: http://lowbyte.de/vga-sync-fields/vga-sync-fields/README On 11/01/2011 07:01 PM, Tony Houghton wrote: When using NVidia graphics cards and the proprietary driver I find vdr-sxfe looks quite smooth even with a monitor that only supports 60Hz. I think it's been syncing to the vertical blank "automagically". But with other graphics cards I get a lot of tearing which is marring my viewing pleasure. This is happening both with Intel Sandy Bridge (normal monitor) and a Radeon 5450 with fglrx connected to a TV. The free ati driver isn't a practical option on that because the HDMI audio doesn't work with it. I'm using the xv output in each case. Is there a way to make vdr-sxfe sync to the vertical blank with these cards/drivers? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
[vdr] sxfe and vsync
When using NVidia graphics cards and the proprietary driver I find vdr-sxfe looks quite smooth even with a monitor that only supports 60Hz. I think it's been syncing to the vertical blank "automagically". But with other graphics cards I get a lot of tearing which is marring my viewing pleasure. This is happening both with Intel Sandy Bridge (normal monitor) and a Radeon 5450 with fglrx connected to a TV. The free ati driver isn't a practical option on that because the HDMI audio doesn't work with it. I'm using the xv output in each case. Is there a way to make vdr-sxfe sync to the vertical blank with these cards/drivers? ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
