Re: [vdr] DVB-S card recommendation
On Wed, 5 Nov 2008 00:35:13 + "hudo kkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks. I should have done more research before posting though; I found > > that PCI-e isn't usable yet so I'll have to stick to PCI (or USB if I > > desperately wanted to keep both old cards), at least initially. One > > thing I still couldn't find out is what are the practical benefits to me > > of DVB-S2? Is it necessary for BBC HD and/or ITV HD? If Freesat has no > > plans to use DVB-S2 for a few years I think I might be better off to get > > a used Hauppauge Nova S from eBay for £20 and hope that Linux supports > > PCI-e cards one day. > > Most HD channels still work on DVB-S. But if you want a future proof > card, go for DVB-S2. > To my knowledge, BBC HD and ITV HD still work on DVB-S. > There are already some providers migrating to DVB-S2. And some, like > MEO on 30W, broadcast only on DVB-S2. That's the point, I don't necessarily want to future proof this card, because for ultimate future-proofing I'd want PCI-e and that's not currently viable with Linux. My hope is that by the time I really want DVB-S2 there will be Linux drivers for PCI-e DVB cards so what I buy now would just be a stop-gap. According to Wikipedia Meo is a Portuguese subscription broadcaster. Perhaps I've got the wrong provider there, but it doesn't sound of much interest to me! English is the only language I understand well enough to follow on TV. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB-S card recommendation
Most of french HD channels 2008/11/5 hudo kkow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:26:44 + > > "hudo kkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > Is it OK to ask for card recommendations here or would it be better to > >> > ask in the DVB list? I want to build a new HTPC to watch "Freesat" and > I > >> > don't know what DVB-S card to buy. They're actually a bit difficult to > >> > find, being a more obscure item in the UK than DVB-T receivers. > >> > > >> > Working properly with Linux is obviously essential, and I'd like it to > >> > be compatible with DVB-S2 if that's a question of hardware, not just > >> > drivers. Ideally I'd like PCI Express rather than plain old PCI, for > >> > future-proofing and so that I can use both of my old DVB-T cards as > >> > well, on a new mATX motherboard. Having a good remote control would be > >> > helpful too. > >> > >> Well, that's like asking what's your favorite ice-cream. ;) > >> Everyone here as a preference. I for one like the Technotrend TT-3200. > >> It's DVB-S2 compliant and very popular among linux users. There are > >> others brands (like Hauppauge) and several models supported and > >> supporting DVB-S2. > > > > Thanks. I should have done more research before posting though; I found > > that PCI-e isn't usable yet so I'll have to stick to PCI (or USB if I > > desperately wanted to keep both old cards), at least initially. One > > thing I still couldn't find out is what are the practical benefits to me > > of DVB-S2? Is it necessary for BBC HD and/or ITV HD? If Freesat has no > > plans to use DVB-S2 for a few years I think I might be better off to get > > a used Hauppauge Nova S from eBay for £20 and hope that Linux supports > > PCI-e cards one day. > > > > -- > > TH * http://www.realh.co.uk > > Most HD channels still work on DVB-S. But if you want a future proof > card, go for DVB-S2. > To my knowledge, BBC HD and ITV HD still work on DVB-S. > There are already some providers migrating to DVB-S2. And some, like > MEO on 30W, broadcast only on DVB-S2. > > It's your choice. > > ___ > vdr mailing list > vdr@linuxtv.org > http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr > ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB-S card recommendation
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:26:44 + > "hudo kkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Is it OK to ask for card recommendations here or would it be better to >> > ask in the DVB list? I want to build a new HTPC to watch "Freesat" and I >> > don't know what DVB-S card to buy. They're actually a bit difficult to >> > find, being a more obscure item in the UK than DVB-T receivers. >> > >> > Working properly with Linux is obviously essential, and I'd like it to >> > be compatible with DVB-S2 if that's a question of hardware, not just >> > drivers. Ideally I'd like PCI Express rather than plain old PCI, for >> > future-proofing and so that I can use both of my old DVB-T cards as >> > well, on a new mATX motherboard. Having a good remote control would be >> > helpful too. >> >> Well, that's like asking what's your favorite ice-cream. ;) >> Everyone here as a preference. I for one like the Technotrend TT-3200. >> It's DVB-S2 compliant and very popular among linux users. There are >> others brands (like Hauppauge) and several models supported and >> supporting DVB-S2. > > Thanks. I should have done more research before posting though; I found > that PCI-e isn't usable yet so I'll have to stick to PCI (or USB if I > desperately wanted to keep both old cards), at least initially. One > thing I still couldn't find out is what are the practical benefits to me > of DVB-S2? Is it necessary for BBC HD and/or ITV HD? If Freesat has no > plans to use DVB-S2 for a few years I think I might be better off to get > a used Hauppauge Nova S from eBay for £20 and hope that Linux supports > PCI-e cards one day. > > -- > TH * http://www.realh.co.uk Most HD channels still work on DVB-S. But if you want a future proof card, go for DVB-S2. To my knowledge, BBC HD and ITV HD still work on DVB-S. There are already some providers migrating to DVB-S2. And some, like MEO on 30W, broadcast only on DVB-S2. It's your choice. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB-S card recommendation
On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 01:26:44 + "hudo kkow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Is it OK to ask for card recommendations here or would it be better to > > ask in the DVB list? I want to build a new HTPC to watch "Freesat" and I > > don't know what DVB-S card to buy. They're actually a bit difficult to > > find, being a more obscure item in the UK than DVB-T receivers. > > > > Working properly with Linux is obviously essential, and I'd like it to > > be compatible with DVB-S2 if that's a question of hardware, not just > > drivers. Ideally I'd like PCI Express rather than plain old PCI, for > > future-proofing and so that I can use both of my old DVB-T cards as > > well, on a new mATX motherboard. Having a good remote control would be > > helpful too. > > Well, that's like asking what's your favorite ice-cream. ;) > Everyone here as a preference. I for one like the Technotrend TT-3200. > It's DVB-S2 compliant and very popular among linux users. There are > others brands (like Hauppauge) and several models supported and > supporting DVB-S2. Thanks. I should have done more research before posting though; I found that PCI-e isn't usable yet so I'll have to stick to PCI (or USB if I desperately wanted to keep both old cards), at least initially. One thing I still couldn't find out is what are the practical benefits to me of DVB-S2? Is it necessary for BBC HD and/or ITV HD? If Freesat has no plans to use DVB-S2 for a few years I think I might be better off to get a used Hauppauge Nova S from eBay for £20 and hope that Linux supports PCI-e cards one day. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] DVB-S card recommendation
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:12 AM, Tony Houghton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Is it OK to ask for card recommendations here or would it be better to > ask in the DVB list? I want to build a new HTPC to watch "Freesat" and I > don't know what DVB-S card to buy. They're actually a bit difficult to > find, being a more obscure item in the UK than DVB-T receivers. > > Working properly with Linux is obviously essential, and I'd like it to > be compatible with DVB-S2 if that's a question of hardware, not just > drivers. Ideally I'd like PCI Express rather than plain old PCI, for > future-proofing and so that I can use both of my old DVB-T cards as > well, on a new mATX motherboard. Having a good remote control would be > helpful too. > > I think I read that there are no Linux drivers for DVB cards with > multiple tuners. Is that (still) true? > > -- > TH * http://www.realh.co.uk Hi. Well, that's like asking what's your favorite ice-cream. ;) Everyone here as a preference. I for one like the Technotrend TT-3200. It's DVB-S2 compliant and very popular among linux users. There are others brands (like Hauppauge) and several models supported and supporting DVB-S2. Just take a look and read on this ML and dvb ML so that you can see what to expect with a new dvb card. Read the topics, try to understand pro's and con's on some brand/model. Finally, keep asking questions. We'll answer the best we can. Cheers ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
