Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
On Sunday 12 December 2010, Klaus Schmidinger wrote: > On 04.12.2010 13:09, Tobias Grimm wrote: > > The gettext version I use automatically adds a Language field to the > > headers of the po-Files. It would be nice to have this field there in > > the first place, so here's a small patch that adds it. > > According to a patch I recevied from Ville Skyttä a while ago > the "Language..." entries currently look like this in my source > (which will become VDR version 1.7.17): [...] > Please advise whether this is correct. I believe it is, see rest of the messages in this thread. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
On 04.12.2010 13:09, Tobias Grimm wrote: > The gettext version I use automatically adds a Language field to the > headers of the po-Files. It would be nice to have this field there in > the first place, so here's a small patch that adds it. According to a patch I recevied from Ville Skyttä a while ago the "Language..." entries currently look like this in my source (which will become VDR version 1.7.17): po/ar.po:"Language-Team: Arabic \n" po/ar.po:"Language: ar\n" po/ca_ES.po:"Language-Team: Catalan \n" po/ca_ES.po:"Language: ca\n" po/cs_CZ.po:"Language-Team: Czech \n" po/cs_CZ.po:"Language: cs\n" po/da_DK.po:"Language-Team: Danish \n" po/da_DK.po:"Language: da\n" po/de_DE.po:"Language-Team: German \n" po/de_DE.po:"Language: de\n" po/el_GR.po:"Language-Team: Greek \n" po/el_GR.po:"Language: el\n" po/es_ES.po:"Language-Team: Spanish \n" po/es_ES.po:"Language: es\n" po/et_EE.po:"Language-Team: Estonian \n" po/et_EE.po:"Language: et\n" po/fi_FI.po:"Language-Team: Finnish \n" po/fi_FI.po:"Language: fi\n" po/fr_FR.po:"Language-Team: French \n" po/fr_FR.po:"Language: fr\n" po/hr_HR.po:"Language-Team: Croatian \n" po/hr_HR.po:"Language: hr\n" po/hu_HU.po:"Language-Team: Hungarian \n" po/hu_HU.po:"Language: hu\n" po/it_IT.po:"Language-Team: Italian \n" po/it_IT.po:"Language: it\n" po/lt_LT.po:"Language-Team: Lithuanian \n" po/lt_LT.po:"Language: lt\n" po/mk_MK.po:"Language-Team: Macedonian \n" po/mk_MK.po:"Language: mk\n" po/nl_NL.po:"Language-Team: Dutch \n" po/nl_NL.po:"Language: nl\n" po/nn_NO.po:"Language-Team: Norwegian Nynorsk \n" po/nn_NO.po:"Language: nn\n" po/pl_PL.po:"Language-Team: Polish \n" po/pl_PL.po:"Language: pl\n" po/pt_PT.po:"Language-Team: Portuguese \n" po/pt_PT.po:"Language: pt\n" po/ro_RO.po:"Language-Team: Romanian \n" po/ro_RO.po:"Language: ro\n" po/ru_RU.po:"Language-Team: Russian \n" po/ru_RU.po:"Language: ru\n" po/sk_SK.po:"Language-Team: Slovak \n" po/sk_SK.po:"Language: sk\n" po/sl_SI.po:"Language-Team: Slovenian \n" po/sl_SI.po:"Language: sl\n" po/sv_SE.po:"Language-Team: Swedish \n" po/sv_SE.po:"Language: sv\n" po/tr_TR.po:"Language-Team: Turkish \n" po/tr_TR.po:"Language: tr\n" po/uk_UA.po:"Language-Team: Ukrainian \n" po/uk_UA.po:"Language: uk\n" po/zh_CN.po:"Language-Team: Chinese (simplified) \n" po/zh_CN.po:"Language: zh_CN\n" Please advise whether this is correct. Klaus ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
Ville Skyttä wrote: > The Language fields for the main dialect of a language should not have > _COUNTRY (i.e. Language: de, not Language: de_DE etc). Right, I didn't read that far. Main dialects are abbreviated to a two letter language code in the Language field. Tobias ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
On Tuesday 07 December 2010, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > So, "de" is a synonym for "de_DE" and both definitions are as correct as > they can be according to my interpretation. Well, I interpret it differently (that "de" is what one should use in this field for German as spoken in Germany) so I guess that just demonstrates that the documentation could be improved. But... meh. > And you could use here the plain "zh" as it defaults to "zh_CH" - Swiss-Chinese, interesting ;) ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
On Tue, 7 Dec 2010, Ville Skyttä wrote: Don't stop reading there. I don't know about forbidden, but they do write that the value "is" something else, a bit below the above quoted part: I didn't! :) * In this PO file field, but not in locale names, ‘ll_CC’ combinations denoting a language's main dialect are abbreviated as ‘ll’. For example, ‘de’ is equivalent to ‘de_DE’ (German as spoken in Germany), and ‘pt’ to ‘pt_PT’ (Portuguese as spoken in Portugal) in this context. * In this PO file field, suffixes like ‘.encoding’ are not used. * In this PO file field, variant designators that are not relevant to message translation, such as �...@euro’, are not used. So, if your locale name is ‘de_DE.UTF-8’, the language specification in PO files is just ‘de’." So, "de" is a synonym for "de_DE" and both definitions are as correct as they can be according to my interpretation. But leaving out the country only applies to _the_ (there can be only one I gather) primary dialect of a language. So both zh_CN and zh_TW cannot be the primary dialect; dunno if there's such a thing for Chinese in the first place. If you look at my patch carefully, you'll see that for zh_CN.po the value of the Language field is zh_CN. And you could use here the plain "zh" as it defaults to "zh_CH" - according to my quick Google searchs. I did not invent any of these values myself - I just first fixed the Language- Team fields so that gettext itself understands them, and then ran the files through gettext, and copied/included in my patch what gettext itself had added. I think following what gettext's docs say/recommend and what it actually does itself is the best approach. In that case those plain language codes are enough. I was just thinking about new translation that might come in future using subdialects. Translators usually uses the existing ones as a starting point and might not remember to update these fields correctly. BR, -- rofa ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
On Tuesday 07 December 2010, Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: > On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > On Saturday 04 December 2010, Tobias Grimm wrote: > >> The gettext version I use automatically adds a Language field to the > >> headers of the po-Files. It would be nice to have this field there in > >> the first place, so here's a small patch that adds it. > > > > The Language fields for the main dialect of a language should not have > > _COUNTRY (i.e. Language: de, not Language: de_DE etc). More info: > > http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Header-Entry > > "Fill in the language code of the language. This can be in ONE of three > forms: ‘ll’, ‘ll_CC’, ‘ll...@variant’" > > Where is the country code forbidden exactly? Don't stop reading there. I don't know about forbidden, but they do write that the value "is" something else, a bit below the above quoted part: "The naming convention ‘ll_CC’ is also the way locales are named on systems based on GNU libc. But there are three important differences: * In this PO file field, but not in locale names, ‘ll_CC’ combinations denoting a language's main dialect are abbreviated as ‘ll’. For example, ‘de’ is equivalent to ‘de_DE’ (German as spoken in Germany), and ‘pt’ to ‘pt_PT’ (Portuguese as spoken in Portugal) in this context. * In this PO file field, suffixes like ‘.encoding’ are not used. * In this PO file field, variant designators that are not relevant to message translation, such as �...@euro’, are not used. So, if your locale name is ‘de_DE.UTF-8’, the language specification in PO files is just ‘de’." > The core VDR doesn't have > same language for different areas, but i.e. the femon does: "zh_CN" and > "zh_TW". If I would use the plain "zh" for both of these, the "zh_TW.po" > file would be interpreted as "zh_CN" and that really doesn't sound > rigth. But leaving out the country only applies to _the_ (there can be only one I gather) primary dialect of a language. So both zh_CN and zh_TW cannot be the primary dialect; dunno if there's such a thing for Chinese in the first place. If you look at my patch carefully, you'll see that for zh_CN.po the value of the Language field is zh_CN. I did not invent any of these values myself - I just first fixed the Language- Team fields so that gettext itself understands them, and then ran the files through gettext, and copied/included in my patch what gettext itself had added. > With VDR's current language files this doesn't make any > difference, but I prefer Tobias' patch with your language team > modifications a bit more future proof. I think following what gettext's docs say/recommend and what it actually does itself is the best approach. ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
On Mon, 6 Dec 2010, Ville Skyttä wrote: On Saturday 04 December 2010, Tobias Grimm wrote: The gettext version I use automatically adds a Language field to the headers of the po-Files. It would be nice to have this field there in the first place, so here's a small patch that adds it. The Language fields for the main dialect of a language should not have _COUNTRY (i.e. Language: de, not Language: de_DE etc). More info: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Header-Entry "Fill in the language code of the language. This can be in ONE of three forms: ‘ll’, ‘ll_CC’, ‘ll...@variant’" Where is the country code forbidden exactly? The core VDR doesn't have same language for different areas, but i.e. the femon does: "zh_CN" and "zh_TW". If I would use the plain "zh" for both of these, the "zh_TW.po" file would be interpreted as "zh_CN" and that really doesn't sound rigth. With VDR's current language files this doesn't make any difference, but I prefer Tobias' patch with your language team modifications a bit more future proof. BR, -- rofa ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Minor *.po patch
On Saturday 04 December 2010, Tobias Grimm wrote: > The gettext version I use automatically adds a Language field to the > headers of the po-Files. It would be nice to have this field there in > the first place, so here's a small patch that adds it. The Language fields for the main dialect of a language should not have _COUNTRY (i.e. Language: de, not Language: de_DE etc). More info: http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Header-Entry Attached is a patch I've sent to Klaus quite a while back, I believe this one does it correctly (and also fixes Language-Team values). From dba5695d5efd9cd2b6663eeea404f0460d98dbca Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: =?UTF-8?q?Ville=20Skytt=C3=A4?= Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2010 00:07:05 +0300 Subject: [PATCH 5/5] Add Language and fix Language-Team header of *.po. http://www.gnu.org/software/gettext/manual/gettext.html#Header-Entry --- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/ca_ES.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/cs_CZ.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/da_DK.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/de_DE.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/el_GR.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/es_ES.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/et_EE.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/fi_FI.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/fr_FR.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/hr_HR.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/hu_HU.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/it_IT.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/lt_LT.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/nl_NL.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/nn_NO.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/pl_PL.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/pt_PT.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/ro_RO.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/ru_RU.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/sk_SK.po |4 ++-- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/sl_SI.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/sv_SE.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/tr_TR.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/hello/po/zh_CN.po |4 ++-- PLUGINS/src/pictures/po/de_DE.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/pictures/po/fi_FI.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/pictures/po/fr_FR.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/pictures/po/it_IT.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/pictures/po/lt_LT.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/pictures/po/ru_RU.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/pictures/po/sk_SK.po |4 ++-- PLUGINS/src/skincurses/po/de_DE.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/skincurses/po/fi_FI.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/skincurses/po/it_IT.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/skincurses/po/lt_LT.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/skincurses/po/ru_RU.po |3 ++- PLUGINS/src/skincurses/po/sk_SK.po |4 ++-- po/ca_ES.po|3 ++- po/cs_CZ.po|3 ++- po/da_DK.po|3 ++- po/de_DE.po|3 ++- po/el_GR.po|3 ++- po/es_ES.po|3 ++- po/et_EE.po|3 ++- po/fi_FI.po|3 ++- po/fr_FR.po|3 ++- po/hr_HR.po|3 ++- po/hu_HU.po|3 ++- po/it_IT.po|3 ++- po/lt_LT.po|3 ++- po/mk_MK.po|1 + po/nl_NL.po|3 ++- po/nn_NO.po|3 ++- po/pl_PL.po|3 ++- po/pt_PT.po|3 ++- po/ro_RO.po|3 ++- po/ru_RU.po|3 ++- po/sk_SK.po|3 ++- po/sl_SI.po|3 ++- po/sv_SE.po|3 ++- po/tr_TR.po|3 ++- po/uk_UA.po|3 ++- po/zh_CN.po|3 ++- 63 files changed, 125 insertions(+), 66 deletions(-) diff --git a/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/ca_ES.po b/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/ca_ES.po index 008b97e..1c2d2dd 100644 --- a/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/ca_ES.po +++ b/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/ca_ES.po @@ -12,7 +12,8 @@ msgstr "" "POT-Creation-Date: 2007-10-13 11:52+0200\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2007-08-11 12:34+0200\n" "Last-Translator: Jordi Vilà \n" -"Language-Team: Catalanian\n" +"Language-Team: Catalan \n" +"Language: ca\n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n" diff --git a/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/cs_CZ.po b/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/cs_CZ.po index c4fa571..bbf110c 100644 --- a/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/cs_CZ.po +++ b/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/cs_CZ.po @@ -10,7 +10,8 @@ msgstr "" "POT-Creation-Date: 2007-10-13 11:52+0200\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2007-08-11 12:34+0200\n" "Last-Translator: Vladimír Bárta \n" -"Language-Team: Czech\n" +"Language-Team: Czech \n" +"Language: cs\n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n" diff --git a/PLUGINS/src/hello/po/da_DK.po b/PLUGINS/src/
