Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Tony Houghton
On Thu, 5 May 2011 16:08:09 +0100
Dominic Evans  wrote:

> I'm not sure how important this is to people? I'm just as happy with
> BBC1 London at 101 as I am with BBC1 South. If I _really_ want
> regional news I can always switch to it by choice.

I do prefer BBC's South Today to London's regional news. But the big
advantage of BBC 1 London is that it's on the same transponder as BBC 2
England, Channel 5 and BBC THREE etc, so you can record/watch more than
one at a time, whereas the other regions tend to be shared with other
regions of the same channel.

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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Dominic Evans
On 5 May 2011 15:23, Tony Houghton  wrote:
>> I had been interested in generating a channels.conf that contained the
>> channels grouped by the Sky UK genre categories, whilst also using the
>> same channel numbering.
>
> OOI, how do you get the channel numbering? I know how to get the numbers
> for Freesat (and Freeview) and have written a scanner which can generate
> numbered channels.conf files in VDR format.

:-) I've previously been using your scanner code from boxstard to get
the Freesat numberings from LCN fields.

I had hoped to hack around with your code and the eepg code to see if
I could extract them for Sky, but in the end I just parsed the json
data from http://epgservices.sky.com/tvlistings-proxy/TVListingsProxy/init.json
and used that to match channel names to numbers and genres.

> Of more interest to me than Sky numbering is to get the regional
> variations right in Freesat. There are some extra fields in its LCN
> descriptors, but I don't know how to use them. I've had to hardwire
> certain mappings by name (eg "BBC 1 South" = 101 etc), but all the
> Channel 4 variants have the same name and my script has assigned 104 to
> a Northern Irish variant judging by the adverts.

I'm not sure how important this is to people? I'm just as happy with
BBC1 London at 101 as I am with BBC1 South. If I _really_ want
regional news I can always switch to it by choice.

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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Tony Houghton
On Thu, 5 May 2011 13:15:10 +0100
Dominic Evans  wrote:

> I had been interested in generating a channels.conf that contained the
> channels grouped by the Sky UK genre categories, whilst also using the
> same channel numbering.

OOI, how do you get the channel numbering? I know how to get the numbers
for Freesat (and Freeview) and have written a scanner which can generate
numbered channels.conf files in VDR format.

Of more interest to me than Sky numbering is to get the regional
variations right in Freesat. There are some extra fields in its LCN
descriptors, but I don't know how to use them. I've had to hardwire
certain mappings by name (eg "BBC 1 South" = 101 etc), but all the
Channel 4 variants have the same name and my script has assigned 104 to
a Northern Irish variant judging by the adverts.

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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Dominic Evans
Hi Henning,

On 5 May 2011 13:43, Henning Pingel  wrote:
>
> Hi Dom,
>
> Did you check the new Channelpedia project?
> Maybe we can join forces to achieve your goal.
>
> http://channelpedia.yavdr.com/gen/html/channels_en_S28.2E.html
>

Yep, I had previously discovered the Channelpedia project, but as far
as I know you don't currently including numbering in your generate
channels.conf files?

I'm happy to help out with extending your scripts to generate both Sky
UK and Freesat numbering & grouping files - presuming that Klaus can
advise on how to group higher numbered channels before lower numbered
ones.

Best regards,
Dom

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Re: [vdr] Sky UK Channels.conf - Channel Numbering & Categories

2011-05-05 Thread Henning Pingel


Hi Dom,

Did you check the new Channelpedia project?
Maybe we can join forces to achieve your goal.

http://channelpedia.yavdr.com/gen/html/channels_en_S28.2E.html

Cheers,
Henning

Am Donnerstag, den 05.05.2011, 14:15 +0200 schrieb Dominic Evans 
:

Hi,

I had been interested in generating a channels.conf that contained 
the
channels grouped by the Sky UK genre categories, whilst also using 
the

same channel numbering.

I found a script on yavdr forums that did something similar, and I
modified it to do what I wanted and include the numbering. However,
I'm guessing that the attached channels.conf won't actually do what I
want

I haven't tried it out on my system yet, but vdr's manpages state 
that

"The given number must be larger than the number of any previous
channel (otherwise it is silently ignored)." so I assume the channels
number 971+ in the first 'Entertainment' category are probably going
cause all the following lower numbers in the next categories to be
ignored? Any possible workaround? Is this a feature request?

Cheers,
Dom



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