Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates? (Re: Frames per second PAL vs. NTSC)
On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:12:04 +0200 Pasi Juppo p...@juppo.fi wrote: I checked boxstar web-page (http://boxstar.sourceforge.net/index.html) and I have to say that the goal of the project is ambiguous. Hopefully the developer can actually do it. Do you mean ambitious? Yes, it is going to be a big challenge, but hopefully it'll get there one day. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates? (Re: Frames per second PAL vs. NTSC)
I checked boxstar web-page (http://boxstar.sourceforge.net/index.html) and I have to say that the goal of the project is ambiguous. Hopefully the developer can actually do it. Do you mean ambitious? Yes, it is going to be a big challenge, but hopefully it'll get there one day. At least for now it seems to use vdr as a backend. Has anybody tested it. Mika ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates? (Re: Frames per second PAL vs. NTSC)
On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:47:35 +0200 (EET) Mika Laitio lam...@pilppa.org wrote: I checked boxstar web-page (http://boxstar.sourceforge.net/index.html) and I have to say that the goal of the project is ambiguous. Hopefully the developer can actually do it. Do you mean ambitious? Yes, it is going to be a big challenge, but hopefully it'll get there one day. At least for now it seems to use vdr as a backend. Has anybody tested it. I should let on that I'm the developer and I've been using it a lot. I started writing it back before VDR had a media player, so some sort of frontend was really needed; even now I think boxstar has a lot of advantages over VDR's media player, but VDR, especially with the xineliboutput plugin, did improve a lot so I wasn't motivated to develop boxstar's own DVB support. Now I've got a DVB-S card and a DVB-T card together, VDR's channels management just isn't good enough, so because of all sorts of other niggles and because I don't like C++ enough to make big changes to VDR I want to press ahead again with boxstar's DVB support. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates? (Re: Frames per second PAL vs. NTSC)
Tony Houghton wrote: On Tue, 06 Jan 2009 09:12:04 +0200 Pasi Juppo p...@juppo.fi wrote: I checked boxstar web-page (http://boxstar.sourceforge.net/index.html) and I have to say that the goal of the project is ambiguous. Hopefully the developer can actually do it. Do you mean ambitious? Yes, it is going to be a big challenge, but hopefully it'll get there one day. Yes, that's what I meant but wrote something else :-) I sure wish the best for the developer(s) - it surely is not a small task. Br, Pasi ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates?
Tony Houghton wrote: On Tue, 6 Jan 2009 16:47:35 +0200 (EET) Mika Laitio lam...@pilppa.org wrote: I checked boxstar web-page (http://boxstar.sourceforge.net/index.html) and I have to say that the goal of the project is ambiguous. Hopefully the developer can actually do it. Do you mean ambitious? Yes, it is going to be a big challenge, but hopefully it'll get there one day. At least for now it seems to use vdr as a backend. Has anybody tested it. I should let on that I'm the developer and I've been using it a lot. I started writing it back before VDR had a media player, so some sort of frontend was really needed; even now I think boxstar has a lot of advantages over VDR's media player, but VDR, especially with the xineliboutput plugin, did improve a lot so I wasn't motivated to develop boxstar's own DVB support. Now I've got a DVB-S card and a DVB-T card together, VDR's channels management just isn't good enough, so because of all sorts of other niggles and because I don't like C++ enough to make big changes to VDR I want to press ahead again with boxstar's DVB support. Few comments/suggestions to boxstar: -roadmap: boxtar itself does not seem to show EPG unless it is incorporated into manage timers and recordings. Anyhow, I really hope you implement TVOnScreen type of EPG viewer and similar EPG search -plugin for automated timers. -OSD: not much is said about that but I hope it will scale according to the resolution and be full-coloured. -I assume that boxstar is developed to be full client-server solution which allows multiple fully independent clients. What would be nice addition because of the today's motherboards is that bostar-daemon could be run on multiple PCs for single system. This would allow to use cheap mATX boards that have one or two PCI slots to build a massive (?) system of e.g. 6 DVB cards. Some kind of master server might be needed for centralized recordings, timers etc. Br, Pasi ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates? (Re: Frames per second PAL vs. NTSC)
On Mon, 05 Jan 2009 20:48:57 +0200 Pasi Juppo p...@juppo.fi wrote: Partly question and partly proposal. Maybe this is not VDR related but e.g. xineliboutput etc. related. I'm not an expert on satellite systems but I'd assume that there are different frame rates in satellite systems available (shall be compared to cable and terresterial as well). Instead of doing pull-down/pull-up conversions it would be nice to playback according to the framerate of the material. This should be an option as it is fully dependant on the output and display devices whether they support this feature or not. The same applies also to mplayer-plugin. Would this be possible to implement? Yes, boxstar does this, but it's a bit limited by its current reliance on external players. DirectFB players can set the screen mode, while in X boxstar sets it first with xrandr. Boxstar has to be able to use mplayer -identify on the stream first to determine the frame rate and it can't change it midstream. Boxstar can't tell the frame rate of what vdr-sxfe or whatever is using, so it has to use an option. Luckily most people receive transmissions all in the same frame rate even if they watch foreign DVDs or downloaded videos, so boxstar can cope with this. -- TH * http://www.realh.co.uk ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates? (Re: Frames per second PAL vs. NTSC)
On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Pasi Juppo wrote: Would this be possible to implement? There's already a modeswitching patch using xrandr for vdr-sxfe available on VDR-Portal. However, it lacks support for interpreting frame rate of source video, but it could be added... BR, -- rofa ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
Re: [vdr] Support for different frame rates? (Re: Frames per second PAL vs. NTSC)
Rolf Ahrenberg wrote: On Mon, 5 Jan 2009, Pasi Juppo wrote: Would this be possible to implement? There's already a modeswitching patch using xrandr for vdr-sxfe available on VDR-Portal. However, it lacks support for interpreting frame rate of source video, but it could be added... Half way there already! Hopefully someone can add the support to interprete the frame rate of the source. This would be quite unique feature to my understanding. Br, Pasi ___ vdr mailing list vdr@linuxtv.org http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/vdr
