Does anyone have a reason *not* to use NetBackup on Linux as a
master/media server? I've heard that Linux makes a great media
server, but how about a master?
My options are Solaris/SPARC and Linux/x86_64 and I was wondering if
anyone had found a concrete reason why Linux was inferior.
Thanks,
I have a dual unit Neo 4000 that gets some fairly heavy usage. I'm
not much impressed with the quality. We have had multiple problems
with the picker hand and the elevator. The 2000 does not have an
elevator so that may not be an issue for you. We have also had some
flakeyness with the door
On 10/26/07, Dave Carpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NetBackup 6.5 is huge feature release, not a Maintenance Pack for NBU 6.0.
NBU 6.5 adds things like SAN Client, a new Open Disk API for better support
of Storage and VTL's. When PureDisk 6.5 comes out, it will support PureDisk
media servers,
Here is some required reading on the topic from Val Henson, a noted
academic/storage-guru.
An Analysis of Compare-by-hash
www.nmt.edu/~val/review/hash.pdf
Of particular interst is why hardware error rates can't be compared
with deterministic software errors.
Austin
On 10/18/07, Iverson, Jerald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
that is why i have turned off all hardware and software compression on
my tape drives. imagine trying to store more than 400GB of data onto a
single lto3 tape! they say that you can store up to and even more
than 800GB, but i don't
On 9/21/07, Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yesterday our director said that he doesn't intend to ever upgrade existing
STK L700 because eventually we'll go tapeless as that is what the industry
is doing.
snip
Tape has been dying for 30 years.
Yes. They've been out for about 5 months.
http://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/21429.wss
Austin
On 9/13/07, Brad Hillebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, so the LTO-4 drives have a hardware encryption option? How long have
these been out?
On 9/12/07, Austin Murphy [EMAIL
, but will write at one of 2 or 3 fixed
speeds.
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On 9/12/07, Brad Hillebrand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have any experiences with the Sun/StorageTek T1 tape drive?
I don't use them, but I did some research.
One gotcha that I came across was the writing speed. They can only
write at either 120 MB/sec or 50 MB/sec. There is no in
I don't know what you mean by tape degradation, but software
encryption does have a significant effect.
If you use the NetBackup encryption option, your tape drives will not
compress the encrypted data. max speed of the backup will be limited
by the CPU speed, not IO speed. You can also use the
Each machine/OS type has its own install_client script that needs to
be changed from RSH to SSH. I also found that it worked much better
when I used OpenSSH. SunSSH was horrid. You also need to make sure
agent-forwarding is enabled.
If you are already using SSH for administration, using it
On 7/23/07, Bobby R Windle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm looking for the part number / description for a media server license.
This would be for Netbackup Enterprise License 5.1. Also maint support
so we can move to 6.0. So I need a media server license. The media server is
a Sun V880 ( 8
I have not found one yet. I asked my sales rep for this earlier today
and have not received an answer.
Austin
On 7/23/07, Rongsheng Fang [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there such a document for NBU version 6 that I can download?
Thanks,
Rongsheng
Austin Murphy wrote:
On 7/23/07, Bobby R
On 10/9/06, Ed Wilts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
You can have multiple virtual servers per physical servers (e.g.
Windows cluster) that require 1 license per physical system, and you can
have multiple operating systems on a VMware server that require one
license per operating system type.
Hi
On 7/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here are some of the options that I thought of for starters ... can anyone
add to the list?
Traditional direct to tape backup via media server
Direct to tape via SAN media server/client
Snapshot
Mirrored disk
Proprietary application
On 7/19/07, Preston, Douglas L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
... then used the existing license to backup the images.
Yes, but... If you have 10 linux virtuals and 10 windows virtuals
running on a single VMware on linux system, how many NetBackup
licenses do you need?
The prevailing wisdom on
to the standard NetBackup policy of licensing clients once per
physical machine.
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Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu
WangTek and WangDAT are defunct companies. Like you suspected, Super
Technologies is just an aftermarket dealer who manged to pick up the
domain names.
Austin
On 7/13/07, Martin, Jonathan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't presume to be the authority on LTO Media and Drive
compatibility, but
Do you have a Policy of type Oracle with a Application Backup type
schedule? This is in addition to the Automatic Full Backup type
Schedule which triggers the RMAN script.
Austin
On 6/5/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gurus,
I have configured the Oracle backup script , but
On 6/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Needed help to configure Oracle Hot backup using the netbackup orcale
agent, Please suggest the steps to follow.
Netbackup Oracle pdf doesnot clearly specify the steps. and also i am not
aware of Oracle
This user guide has been
On 5/24/07, Jeff Lightner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
UNIX admin here. How does one turn of VSP/VSS on Windows 2000/2003?AV?
Also does this advice only hold for Windows 2000/2003 or for any Windows
server?
From the master server run:
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/admincmd/bpclient -h
-h will
On 4/11/07, Boris Kraizman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anybody know any issues
with backup speeding after deploying MP6?
Hi Boris,
This is not definitive by any means, but...
The Windows admin I worked with thinks MP6 was a step backward. The
snapshot style open file
NetBackup Clients for Linux and UNIX are easier to install from the
NetBackup server.
Look for this script: (I have 5.1, but this is probably the same for 6.0)
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/install_client_files
You can use rsh or ftp with this or edit the client specific script
that this script
Has anyone experienced bpfis.exe using 100% of the CPU on Windows
client systems that were recently updated with a maintenance pack?
I'm running NB5.1 MP6 across the board. The master is Solaris 9, many
clients are Windows 2003 and 2000. The problem seems to have started
when we updated the
On 3/29/07, Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There's no way to tell exactly how much more data a single tape will
hold,
...
Yes, I know. I'm not looking for an exact number. I don't know how
LTO tapes exactly work, but I
On 2/21/07, Kenneth W Wilkinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there any way to eject tapes w/ command line? I'm on 5.1mp6.
vmchange -multi_eject -w -res
-rt robot-type
-rn robot-number
-rh master-hostname
-ml mediaID:mediaID: ... :mediaID
Austin
On 2/9/07, Joe Royer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Austin,
Have you actually used a niagra as a backup server? Does it
really have the bus/backplane bandwidth to handle life as a master/media
server? I'd love to hear some real world experience (what kind and how
many tape drives) as it's about
On 2/7/07, Whelan, Patrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, I was intentionally vague to see what kind of suggestions I would
receive. However, that said, the current environment has a clustered Solaris
Master server and 4 HP-UX media servers backing up approximately 700 clients
of various
On 1/29/07, Anas Kayal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone know where I can download a linux agent for NetBackup 5.1 w/
MP5?
It's probably on your server already if you are running UNIX.
/usr/openv/netbackup/bin/install_client_files
You'll need to setup RSH/RCP or modify the scripts to
On 1/25/07, Ellis, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is there a NetBackup command that will show you what slot a particular media
ID is in a library? Not necessarily what it might physically be, as in
actually instructing the robot to inventory the library. Simply what slot
the media ID is
How many Maximum concurrent drives used for backups is your storage
unit configured to write to?
Start small and work your way up.
Set your STU to 1 drive and MPX=4. Measure performance.
increase MPX to 8. measure...
Set the STU to 2 drives. measure...
Waiting for full buffer means you are
On 1/2/07, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm setting up an Oracle / RMAN policy and I've run into an interesting
issue.
...
If I put both
schedules in the same policy, the monthly runs INSTEAD of the weekly.
I'd prefer to run with single policy, but I don't see how
On 12/28/06, Wessam Aly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The verify process actually reads the tape to verify the backup
images/files. I DO NOT have the tape, its missing. I need to list all the
files which should reside on that tape (from the media and netbackup
database) so I can replace the tape
On 12/21/06, Steve Kirkpatrick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NB5.0MP6
Master server: Sun V440 w/ 4x1.2GHZ SPARC III, 8GB RAM running Solaris 10
Sun L500 library with four HPUltrium LTO-3 drives connected to master server
via 2GB SAN.
I can't seem to get more than 12.5MB/sec throughput on these
Marco said:
the only one that I know that are not affected of that problem are the
IBM Magastar tape (TS1120)
Curtis said:
I hate to say it, but your IBM sales rep is either lieing or doesn't know
what he/she's talking about if he/she told you that their drives don't
suffer shoeshining.
I'm using it on all my servers. I found that using blowfish is
substantially faster than using AES-256. My dual 3.4GHz Xeon
(HyperThreading OFF) SAN media server maxes out at 6x 10MB/s streams
using blowfish. That works out to about 200GB/hour in actual
real-life performance.
The big problem
On 11/8/06, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Or just use Quantum DLT-S4s. 90MB/sec write times, 800GB uncompressed per
tape
and they fit in all the same Quantum Libraries as LTO3s. Not only do they
fit, but
Quantum charges the same price for LTO3 as they do for
On 11/8/06, marco chiapusso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I need to change my tape drives tecnology. I'll swap from LTO2 to IBM Jaguar
tapes drive (700 GB!! not compressed..impressive!!!).The goal it's also to
move even the historical data on LTO to the new support
...
What do you think about that?
If you are using Shared Storage Option on all your drives,
vmdareq
run from the master, gives info about which drives are available where.
Austin
On 11/6/06, Clooney, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi all
Scenario
Solaris 8 Master/media server 5.1 MP5
Multiple Windows media servers all
On 11/6/06, Clooney, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yeah I know of the below, what I'm trying to achieve is putting a script
together to check drives across the SSO environment and re-organise
accordingly by adding/deleting as necessary. To do this I would need serial
number info on the
On 10/31/06, Sixbury, Dan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How do you determine the efficiency of your tape usage?
The GB used per tape shows up on the Vault reports if you use
vaulting. It is easy enough to do the math once you have the numbers.
I don't know of any particular NetBackup function that
$ /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/bpdbm -ctime 1163569541
1163569541 = Wed Nov 15 00:45:41 2006
On 11/1/06, Humenik, Joe - BLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It looks like the number of seconds since the UNIX epoch time of January
1, 1970.
Joe Humenik
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because e-mail can be
On 10/17/06, Ashley, Brenda R Ctr 584 CBSS/GBMUAC
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello All,
I am having a difficult time trying to combine multiplexing with
multistreaming to maximize my performance.
Before getting too far into a solution you need to define the problem.
What kind of performance
On 10/16/06, Jack Forester, Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I like the performance stats on the new T1 drives ...
Watch out. The T1 can only read and write at 120MB/sec or
50MB/sec (native). That could end up a lot slower than you expect if
the data source can't keep up. It only takes
Keep in mind that the data rate that matters isn't the rate of data
going over the FibreChannel interface, but the rate at which the drive
writes the data to tape. 50MB/sec over FC could be as low as
20MB/sec at the tape, which would be slower than the minimum streaming
speed.
Austin
On
On 9/26/06, Hindle, Greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ok then I will ask again. How do I tell the write speed to tape then?
Turn off compression or send pre-compressed data.
Austin
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On 9/25/06, Joe Royer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And keep in mind, if you try to hardware compress software compressed
data, it will be slower and the tape will hold less.
The compression algorithm in LTO drives does NOT inflate already
compressed data like other drives. There is a compressed
On 9/21/06, Koster, Phil [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We ran some numbers and have about 1.26 servers per policy. I was just
wondering where everyone else is in that regard.
We are at 5.33 clients/policy (Unique clients/All policies).
For our two primary file backup policies the ratio is 45.0.
On 9/21/06, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Not to interject, but I'm thinking quite the opposite here.
...
We can't have all nodes of
the farm taking a backup hit at the same time now can we?
There are several ways to throttle the impact of NetBackup on your
network
Can anyone explain the expected behavior in the case where you have a
server with 4 interfaces, and several clients with 1 interface each,
all on the same switched network?
modified example
backup1-a192.168.1.11/24
backup1-b192.168.1.12/24
backup1-c192.168.1.13/24
backup1-d
On 8/7/06, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does anyone have any guidance on this issue or interaction with both types
of drives? We're looking into upgrading our aging quantum library here and
trying to put together a business case for one over the other. I like the
The max numbers depend on the drive.
My HP LTO-2 drives max out at 30 MB/sec native and match down to 10 MB/sec.
Below the minimum rate the drive stops and starts as it's buffer fills
and empties. Also known as shoeshining due to the need to rewind
and reposition after each stop.
Austin
On
On 7/6/06, Dave Carpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Data written to tape is not normally encrypted.
There is a NetBackup Encryption Option that you can purchase on a per client
basis that encrypted the data from the client all the way to the tape. The
encryption strength can be set anywhere form
Gigabit interface ALL AT THE SAME TIME. With a Solid PCI-X
backplane (like the DL 580G3 has) this is entirely reasonable.
Austin Murphy
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On 6/30/06, Tristan Ball [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And we'd run 5.1 everywhere still, if I wasn't caught on one side with a
requirement for
an EM64T Linux master server (only supported on 6.0), and a management
directive
to run the same software everywhere.
Just because you have x86_64
Don't worry too much about the name NetBackup calls it. RedHat2.4
works fine on RHEL 4 systems. I think compat-libstdc++ is installed
by default on the later updates of RHEL 4.
Just make sure it's there.
Austin
On 6/28/06, Jerry Christopher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
We are using 5.1 with
I assume you mean 64-bit as in AMD64.
It looks like support was initially added for 5.1 in MP2 or MP3.
The notes are confusing, I think you want RedHat2.4 as your NetBackup
OS type for AMD64 systems. I think the Linux64 OS type is only for
Itanium.
Here is the doc for the solaris master. You
This will at least narrow it down to which systems to take a closer look at:
bpplclients -allunique -pt Oracle
bpplclients -allunique -pt MS-Exchange-Server
I don't know the exact policy type for SAP, prob. just SAP.
Austin
On 5/29/06, Coen, Trevor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How can I
I think your first step would be to put your master server and tape
library on the SAN.
Then you would need 1 SSO license and 1 SAN Media Server license. You
may be able to upgrade your library with a Fibre to SCSI router so the
tape drives don't need to be upgraded to Fibre.
2TB in 12 hours
From that link it shows that RedHat's support position boils down to 3
years of helping people migrate TO a particular release and 4 years of
migrating FROM that release. Basically, after 3 years, they won't
officially help you deploy a new system on that release.
Same with Symantec. New
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Sent: Monday, May 08, 2006 1:09 PM
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Command via bpcd
Does anyone know if it is possible to remotely run a command through
BPCD ?
I am interested in running tpclean -L on a SAN Media Server's SSO tape
drive from the master server
that..
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Command via bpcd
Does anyone know if it is possible to remotely run a command through
BPCD ?
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Does anyone know if it is possible to remotely run a command through BPCD ?
I am interested in running tpclean -L on a SAN Media Server's SSO
tape drive from the master server in a script.
Austin
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everything work correctly and is
generally a good thing to do anyway.
Austin Murphy
On 5/4/06, Nicholas Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
i dont know exactly on which system you are installing, but if it's
redhat you should take a look at your /etc/securetty
you must add a line with rsh
The bottom line is NetBackup REQUIRES 100% accurate, reliable, and
unambiguous name resolution.
Some considerations:
- shorter names are generally easier to read and say.
- FDQNs are more likely to be unambiguous, especially in large, mixed
environments.
- DNS makes sharing hostname information
I should have been more clear. The scope of my question was limited
to NetBackup. Of course DNS is useful in the general case.
Austin
On 5/1/06, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
For argument's sake, what would be the benefit of using DNS instead of
/etc/hosts?
When you have
Hi Nouresh,
5 GB is MUCH smaller than 400 GB (the native size of LTO3 tapes).
Even if your data grows 10 or 20 times larger, it still makes sense to
do full backups every day of both DBs.
Are you using the NetBackup Agent for Oracle ?
The NetBackup Agent for Oracle only does 2 things for
The Automatic backup is only a trigger. It will trigger the Oracle
system to run the RMAN script that will try to send data back to the
backup server. This returning datastream connects to the
Application backup which writes to tape.
You can set the Application backup window to always open, and
selection list: Ive added the template oratemp.tpl
clients: test.domain.com
As per scheduled, the backup didnt get fired at 6pm. Any help would be much
appreciable.
Thnx again to Austin for explaining the netbackup's working architecture
Cheers,
Nouresh
On 4/13/06, Austin Murphy
We're using the NetBackup Software encryption. Management loves the concept.
Two important things I learned:
1. It's slow, but managable. Switching from the AES-256 Cipher to the
Blowfish Cipher sped things up about 25%.
2. Encrypted Data doesn't compress. You can compress the data before
Sounds like a either a font problem with X or Java. Is XFS installed?
If you still have problems, you can run the Java client on just about
any workstation. Usually it's preferable to do that anyway.
Austin
On 3/30/06, Martial Paupe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello,
I have installed
If you have the Date Range and Client name, try this:
bpmedialist -media -U -d mm/dd/yy -e mm/dd/yy -client Client Name
Foreach media id returned, lookup the images on it:
bpimmedia -L -media media ID
It's funny you mention this, because I would like to know how to get
the list of files in
Which version of NetBackup? What OS?
NetBackup 5.1 MP2 on Solaris had a problem with positioning I think.
MP3 or MP3A fixed it. At least thats what our consultant told us.
Austin
On 3/23/06, Song, Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I just installed a new tape library Sun L100 with 3 x LTO-2
If you have only 1 gigabit Ethernet connection to your DB server, you
won't be able to send data as fast as multiple LTO-3 drives NEED to
receive it. Depending on the brand/model, each LTO-3 drive writes at
a MINIMUM of ~30 MBytes/Sec. If you send data at a slower rate the
whole process gets
See the NetBackup System Administrator's Guide for UNIX, Volume I, pp. 344-357
It is more complicated than just opening the defined ports.
Austin
On 3/7/06, Smith, Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
NBU Admin Console 5.1 GUI (PC client) fails to connect to our master NBU
server, now that both
/usr/openv/java/jnbSA
On 3/1/06, Martin, Jonathan (Contractor) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've got a Solaris 8 server running NBU 4.5.
Where exactly is the GUI?! Do I have to install it separately?
Everyone keeps talking about the Java GUI but I can't seem to find it.
Thanx,
-Jonathan
What kind of network connection do you have?Also what kind of SCSI or
FibreChannel connection to what kind of tape drives?
Austin
On 2/25/06, Asiye Yiğit [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gurus, I have Sun Fire
V890 attached to StorEdge C2 tape library. NetBackup 5.1 MP4 Runs on that
polatform. It
. If you can spend a bit more money you might try a faster
technology like 10GbE or IP over Fibrechannel. Beyond that I think
you are looking at a media server.
Austin Murphy
On 2/7/06, Paul Keating [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm running a Sunfire V880.
4x 1.2 GHz Ultrasparc III+ proc.
8 Gig
Let me add one more thing...
The SEND line needs to be in front of every BACKUP command. I have 3
backup commands (data blocks, archive logs, control file) and the
proper schedule needs to be set for each segment of the RMAN script.
Austin
On 1/19/06, Austin Murphy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
.
Austin Murphy
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Thanks! That Veritas article addressed half of my problem and it
opened up a new line of inquiry. In the middle of it was this line:
# Determine which schedule should receive the backup images.
Yes! exactly! but how?!
I saw bphdb somewhere and I remembered it had a log... on the
client. In
is chosen every time and
I don't have to mess around with start windows, multiple policies
and/or exclude dates.
Any Idea about how to do the same thing for MS-SQL backups?
Thanks,
Austin Murphy
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