Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-08-03 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 05:24:07PM -0500, rusty.ma...@sungard.com wrote: There is or was an 'issue' with NDMP where the dump levels for incrementals rolled past 9 and went back to 0, causing a full and it would stay at dump level 0 until the next scheduled full ran. I cannot find a technote

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread ccosta . ccc
Yes..netapp NDMP backups use the dump (solaris version of ufsdump)command to perform backups. The following link explains the NDMP dump process, in detail: https://now.netapp.com/Knowledgebase/solutionarea.asp?id=kb18468 --Original Message-- From: n_ashwin Sender:

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Len Boyle
Good Morning, My understanding is that the netapp on disk is keeping track of changed blocks, but that backup software that is written the backup to tape understands files. So the backup software is reading the whole file including both the unchanged blocks and the changed blocks and

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com wrote: Good Morning, My understanding is that the netapp on disk is keeping track of changed blocks, but that backup software that is written the backup to tape understands files. So the backup software is reading the whole file

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Len Boyle
moving the whole file around. But the complexity of the backup meta data increases. From: Ed Wilts [mailto:ewi...@ewilts.org] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 10:43 AM To: Len Boyle Cc: VERITAS-BU@MAILMAN.ENG.AUBURN.EDU Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup On Tue, Jul

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Len Boyle len.bo...@sas.com wrote: With the new backup support for what was called pure disk the backup data is going to disk and only the changed blocks. But if I understand things the netapp would have to have code installed on it that would understand the

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Shawn Plummer
We used to get HORRIBLE (8MB/s ish) performance doing CIFS backups of our NetApp filer, and I was pretty sure Symantec recommended against doing our backups that way (this was 3 years ago or so). We do backup exclusively to tape though so maybe that makes the difference. Also I didn’t think

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 11:37:20AM -0400, Shawn Plummer wrote: Also I didn?t think NTFS permissions were restored correctly when using CIFs shares as your backup source. Barring any bugs, they are. Both NTFS and UNIX security is backed up and restored via CIFS. Only UNIX security is backed

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Martin, Jonathan
: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup We used to get HORRIBLE (8MB/s ish) performance doing CIFS backups of our NetApp filer, and I was pretty sure Symantec recommended against doing our backups that way (this was 3 years ago or so). We do backup exclusively to tape

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Ed Wilts
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.comwrote: We get poor performance (4MB/sec) performance running NFS mounts on our FAS 2040, but we’ve found we can run many simultaneous streams and get that into the 20+MB/sec range. We’ve got one Sun device we run 16

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Martin, Jonathan
: Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 3:29 PM, Martin, Jonathan jmart...@intersil.com wrote: We get poor performance (4MB/sec) performance running NFS mounts on our FAS 2040, but we've found we can run many simultaneous streams and get

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP backups from Netapp using Netbackup

2010-07-27 Thread Rusty.Major
There is or was an 'issue' with NDMP where the dump levels for incrementals rolled past 9 and went back to 0, causing a full and it would stay at dump level 0 until the next scheduled full ran. I cannot find a technote or any documentation on it, but I believe it was related to cumulative incs