Title: Message
I
am still on MP2 !
Regards
Simon Weaver3rd Line Technical SupportWindows
Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium
Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)Anchorage Road, Portsmouth, PO3
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Richard
Although recommended, Online Cat backups were originally designed for
Enterprise Backup Environments where there is no window to perform an
offline backup. In other words, it will work while normal backups are
running at the same time.
Also (I think I am write!), online catalog backups
Title: Message
Guys
I
am looking at the possibility of upgrading from a pure Windows environent (1
Master, 2 SAN Media Servers with SSO all over
fibre).
Present, NBU is 5.1 MP2 for all
devices.
Reading the NBU Install guide, I am a little confused, and now
concerned about the nbpushdata
Has anyone seen exclude lists not excluding files for raw partitions?
I am running NB5.1 MP4 on solaris systems. I have a policy with a load
of raw partitions in the form :-
/backup/archive_log_bk
/backup/control
NEW_STREAM
/u03
/u08
I am surprised by the number of people using a single volume pool for
data backups. What about mixed retentions on media?
The way i do things is like this :-
Have a daily, weekly, monthly, offsite, logs tape pools ( as well as
netbackup, and none obviously )
Now whatever the policy and file
bpconfig -mj
0
you don't have to bounce
the daemons.
Jobs will finish but no
new jobs will start.
Restores will still
run.
Bobby Williams
2205 Peterson
Drive Chattanooga, Tennessee 37421 423-296-8200
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WEAVER, Simon
2) Each Policy has its own Volume Pool
OMG!!
How many policies? You don't multiplex at all?
Sounds like you also have only one client per policy
3) Easier to manage tapes (ie: Only
Paul
Around 13 Policies, (For example: one for AD, one for SMS, SQL, Exchange,
ect). There are policies that have multiple clients but each policy has a
created volume pool.
Paul, note the word possibly in my last statement. My thought of this was
1 volume pool with say 3 tapes. Lets say one
Paul
It may or may not be a problem, but if 1 1/2 tapes are used for a policy
with a 2 week retention and then a 2nd policy comes along and uses the
remainder of that 1/2 tape with a retention of 2 months, that tape cannot be
used until the image expires (at least that is how I see it).
We have
0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:49:25AM -0400, bob944 wrote:
Alex, you'll get a dozen recommendations. This is the right one. :-)
What is best practice with regards to Volume Pools ?
We are thinking of using a single Volume Pool for all of our
data tapes.
Is
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From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
It may or may not be a problem, but if 1 1/2 tapes are used
for a policy
with a 2 week retention and then a 2nd policy comes along and uses the
remainder of that 1/2 tape with a retention of 2 months, that
tape
I was trying to reclaim some frozen tapes this morning, but on several,
when I run bpmedia -unfreeze -m mediaid, I get the response:
requested media id was not found in the EMM database
Suggestions on what to do here?
Thanks,
Jason
Jason Brooks
Computer Systems Engineer
0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 10:57:48PM +0930, Wilkinson, Alex wrote:
0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:49:25AM -0400, bob944 wrote:
Alex, you'll get a dozen recommendations. This is the right one. :-)
What is best practice with regards to Volume Pools ?
Yeah, this happens when the media is on a particular media server, you
need -h hostname or -host hostname at the end of the command.
On 4/26/06, Brooks, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I was trying to reclaim some frozen tapes this morning, but on several,
when I run bpmedia -unfreeze -m
Jason
I am guessing you have NBU 6 - So maybe this will help
http://seer.support.veritas.com/docs/280202.htm
Could try VMQUERY -deassignbyid media
Regards
Simon Weaver
3rd Line Technical Support
Windows Domain Administrator
EADS Astrium Limited, B32AA IM (DCS)
Anchorage Road,
0n Wed, Apr 26, 2006 at 12:49:25AM -0400, bob944 wrote:
- - Customer privacy. Do you have two clients whose data should not be
mixed? Army and Navy pools, then. Related to this is restricting
access to a pool to a specified host (media server) if there's a Really
Good
If by users, you mean backup cients, then you can specify volume pool on
a per policy basisor if you prefer, even within a policy, you can
override the policy default, and specify pool per schedule.
Paul
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Dave Markham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am surprised by the number of people using a single volume pool for
data backups. What about mixed retentions on media?
What about them? NetBackup *never* puts different retentions on a tape
unless you force it to with the MULTIPLE_RETENTIONS_PER_MEDIA
Thanks to Justin and Simon. Simon - I am at NBU 6, but thankfully, am
not having the problem described. But the document did help - some of
the output from nbemmcmd pointed me to what Justin mentioned.
Clearing things up now.
Thanks again,
Jason
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What happens if I enable the option of single
instance backup for message attachments under exchange field of client
properties. I am currently using mailbox backups but they take a long time. What
will be different in a mailbox backup if I enable this option? How will backup
time and
KISS = Keep It Simple, Stupid!
It's easy to over-manage NetBackup, because it lets you. I recommend
that you keep things simple, and deviate from the simple when it's
evident that you should.
If the NetBackup pool contains all of your assigned tapes and the
Scratch pool contains all of
WOW lots of threads...
I didn't read them all but I do have a suggestion.
Place tapes that have had a read/write errors or were frozen into a temporary pool until they can be checked out.
The pool name - cesspool
Bob StumpIncorrigible punster -- Do not incorrige "Wilkinson, Alex" [EMAIL
Wilkinson, Alex wrote, in part, on 4/26/2006 9:27 AM:
1. You say tapes with errors will be moved to the none pool. I was under the
impression they would be 'frozen' and left in their orginating Volume Pool ?
NetBackup never moves tapes to NONE. You are right that a frozen tape
is an
Dave Markham wrote, in part, on 4/26/2006 5:28 AM:
I am surprised by the number of people using a single volume pool for
data backups. What about mixed retentions on media?
My feeling is that not many shops mix retentions on a tape volume. I
don't, so maybe that's why. ;-)
If you decide
I think that my words have been taken out of context. I know you cant
and shouldn't mix retentions on media which is why i find it hard that
people use 1 media pool for all backups. From that i would assume they
have the same retention for all backups. This in my opinion which is
only my opinion
In practical testing I've noticed negligible backup time
and KB differences between checking and unchecking this option on 6 of our
Exchange Information Stores. In theory it only grabs one copy of a
document that was mailed out to multiple people, and so you should backup much
less dataat
I don't believe your words were taken out of context, as even re-reading
your follow-up, I'm interpretting your words the same way.
I think you are misunderstanding what netbackup does...it DOES NOT mix
retentions on a single media...
If for instance you have one pool, named netbackup and you
Mistakenly hit ctrl+enter when I meant to ctrl+V
Please read down...
I don't believe your words were taken out of context, as even
re-reading your follow-up, I'm interpretting your words the same way.
I think you are misunderstanding what netbackup does...it
DOES NOT mix retentions on a
Agree. IMO simple for small to medium sized solutions is cumulative
incremental backups daily and full backups at weekends and at month end
with an offsite daily if required. This then defines sensibly you should
have 4 different retentions..
dailys 1 to 2 weeks retention. Reason: whats the point
I know exactly how it works im afraid and was posing the question to
people who use 1 tape pool.
What about mixed retentions?
To explain further i meant what about having different retentions on the
same media which you would need to turn on in order to have full backups
incremental etc to use
Correct. Unless you have mix retentions on media set which i think
everyone has agreed is a bad idea.
Your description below uses 4 tapes ( if one tape per backup is used )
which are all associated to the same volume pool.
IMO this is bad practice.
I do think it explains it well to the person
Why is it bad practice? I don't understand the big deal about not separating
different retentions to different pools? If they all use the same pool, they
are separated automatically, you just can't 'see' it. If it's just for visual
peace of mind, then I understand.
In a shop where we have
We upgraded to 6.0 mp6 on solaris for media and master server
yesterday. We had the same with vault duplication. I seen your message
of the Peer to Peer Newsgroups forum. I post this there and emailing
what we found out last night. I found on another site a workaround.
According to the
Hi All.
Why don't you just move the tape to the new server by bpmedia -movedb
command?
Regards,
Jim
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Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 4:29 PM
To: Justin Piszcz;
Hi Simon
I suspect you are right but another reason to move to hot catalog
backups is in the 6.0 release notes:-
End of Life Notification for Catalog
1. The offline catalog backup feature will be removed in the next major
release of
NetBackup. Improved functionality is currently available to
Thanks for all the great input
Looks like we will use ACS to do the cleaning!
Monte
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Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
1:14 PM
To: Ambrose, Monte;
veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE:
Hi Linda
Thanks very much for posting that. I had actually spotted it on the
other forum but we had already trashed our installation ready for the
Production build by then. If it happens again I will definitely give it
a go.
I had a response from Symantec on the Vault 'feature' and after
vmcheckxxx?
vmcheckxxx
NAME
vmcheckxxx - Report the media contents of a robotic
library
SYNOPSIS
install_path\Volmgr\bin\vmcheckxxx -rt robot_type
-rn robot_number [-rh
robot_host] [-h
EMM_server | volume_database_host] [[-if
inventory_filter_value] [-if
inventory_filter_value] ...]
don't forget using set command to manage cleaning wit acsls"Ambrose, Monte" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Thanks for all the great input Looks like we will use ACS to do the cleaning!MonteFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len BoyleSent:
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