[Veritas-bu] Error code 233 premature eof encountered

2008-01-22 Thread ssloh
Hi folks, VNBU 4.5 error code 233: Master Server (Media Server) : Solaris 8 VNBU version: 4.5GA Tape library: Sun L100 Tape drives: 5 x Seagate LTO1 - The size of data written on the backup that failed with error 233 varies among different clients. Some of them backup 10 GB then failed, some

Re: [Veritas-bu] FW: One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Curtis I am sure you are right, and pretty certain in most places this would work, but maybe not for everyone (me included). Does not mean I disagree, its just my own view from the use of NBU 3.4 onwards Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
All Well I see the objective in one client per policy if it is unique (ie: Windows Cluster, SQL, Exchange, Certain Drive letters to be backed up for unique systems, Virtual Machines, ect), but I have one policy that contains 30 clients and has never caused any extra work, or overhead for me or

Re: [Veritas-bu] FW: One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Doing things in 6.x based on how they worked in 3.4 reminds me of this little story: Scientists put 5 monkeys in a cage. In the center of the cage they suspended bananas out of reach of the monkeys. They also put a stool in the cage. One of the monkeys figured out that if he moved the

Re: [Veritas-bu] FW: One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Nice Story :-) any more. -Original Message- From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:46 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Curtis Preston; Dominik Pietrzykowski; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject:

Re: [Veritas-bu] FW: One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
I know it's a big pill to swallow, and very different than what most people are used to. Therefore, not all clients I recommend it to swallow it. ;) FWIW, I will say that every client that HAS swallowed the pill thanked me afterwards. (They never said, Why, oh why didn't I take the blue

[Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
Say it ain't so, Joe! Yes, the beloved bpgp is gone from NetBackup 6.5. Worse, restoring bpgp from a 6.0 backup does not help. The restored bpgp fails with a core dump. Oh whatever are we to do? I'll miss you, bpgp. You helped me out so much in the past. Have a joyful retirement.

[Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread cpreston
I'm looking into whether or not this is true. If it is, it's time for an email campaign. Some see it as a security hole, and I think that's ridiculous. Anybody who is root/Administrator on a NetBackup master can push any file to any client any time they want via a backup/restore command.

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Cant get to a test lab, but found this... https://forums.symantec.com/syment/board/message?board.id=21message.id= 40520 Simon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 5:56 PM To:

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Kevin Whittaker
Alas, tis true! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cpreston Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:41 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5 I'm looking into whether or not this is true.

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Kevin Whittaker
nope... that is gone. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:56 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5 Somebody please check to see if

[Veritas-bu] bpgp is gone from 6.5 and now bpdir too !?

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
How are we supposed to check for exclude lists? How are we going to maintain exclude lists? They've taken away our tools. We either need to have them back or be given an alternate solution. Bob Stump Fidelity Information Services ENT STORAGE MANAGEMENT - TAPE Mobile (269)832-0293 -Original

Re: [Veritas-bu] [TAG] large file server/backup system: technical opinions?

2008-01-22 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Tue, 22 Jan 2008, Karl-Heinz Herrmann wrote: Hi Justin, thanks for your suggestion to look into the SUN Tape Solutions. Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 16:26:19 -0500 (EST) From: Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: The Answer Gang [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [TAG] large file server/backup

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
Somebody please check to see if bpdir still exists in NB 6.5 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cpreston Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:41 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5 I'm

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Mark.Donaldson
The need to distribute client binary upgrades still exists. What method is used now? Can you mine the update_clients script (if it is indeed a script). I'm still at 6.0.5. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon (external) Sent:

Re: [Veritas-bu] FW: One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Man, I sure hope PETA doesn't find out! -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Lightner Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:46 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Curtis Preston; Dominik Pietrzykowski;

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
What about the new nbgp: # ls -l /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/*gp /usr/openv/netbackup/bin/nbgp The old syntax apparently doesn't work. What DOES work? (Let's not try this on a production system, shall we?) Also, is the new nbgp on Windows? --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
bpdir is LONG GONE! too Bob Stump Fidelity Information Services ENT STORAGE MANAGEMENT - TAPE Mobile (269)832-0293 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of cpreston Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 12:41 PM To: VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] bpgp is gone from 6.5 and now bpdir too !?

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
I completely agree, Bob. It was the only way to check and maintain exclude lists on non-Windows clients. (Windows clients have bpgetconfig/bpsetconfig.) I have a great script for using bpgp to maintain just that, actually. (You can, of course, script the backup/restore method I mentioned

Re: [Veritas-bu] FW: One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Blue pill - if you an experience a backup lasting more than 4 hours consult your technician... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 11:56 AM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Dominik

Re: [Veritas-bu] FW: One Client Per Policy

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
ROTFLMAO, Jeff. Thanks for that one. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies From: Jeff Lightner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 10:33 AM To: Curtis Preston; WEAVER,

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
nb instead of bp? Are they finally trying to get away from backup plus? -Original Message- From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 1:32 PM To: Kevin Whittaker; Stump, Bob A; VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
Hey, Simon. Did you notice that Bob was the author of the post you gave a URL to? ;) --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WEAVER, Simon

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Ed Wilts
On Jan 22, 2008 11:15 AM, Stump, Bob A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, the beloved bpgp is gone from NetBackup 6.5. Worse, restoring bpgp from a 6.0 backup does not help. Not only bpgp, but bpdir is gone too. Both massive security holes (probably why they were removed) but used frequently.

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Patrick
Soon there will nothing of Control Data programs left. :( Oh, for the days of 1.7. :) Regards, Patrick Whelan Whelan Consulting Limited VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for UNIX. VERITAS Certified NetBackup Support Engineer for Microsoft Windows. -Original Message- From:

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
bpdir is LONG GONE! too What about nbdir? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] bpgp is gone from 6.5 and now bpdir too !?

2008-01-22 Thread Jared . Seaton
Is that script something that you could share? Jared M. Seaton Recovery Administrator Mylan Inc. 304-554-5926 304-685-1389 (Cell) Curtis Preston [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/22/2008 01:40 PM To Stump, Bob A [EMAIL PROTECTED], VERITAS-BU@mailman.eng.auburn.edu cc Subject

[Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows space

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
How do I get past the space in a windows folder name when running bplist from a UNIX master? For instance # bplist -C daddywarbucks -t 13 -R 2 -nt_files -s 01/01/2007 -e 01/22/2008 /C/Program Files/VERITAS/NetBackup Only one file name permitted. __ The information

[Veritas-bu] NetBackup vs. The Rest of the World

2008-01-22 Thread Randy Samora
I guess '08 is the year my company wants me to justify everything and now I'm having to defend NetBackup. I honestly don't think anyone here is wanting me to replace NetBackup but the check signers want to see some comparisons with HP's Data Protector and Microsoft's DPM. Does anyone have any

[Veritas-bu] piece handles in Oracle RMAN backups..what are they?

2008-01-22 Thread Chris_Millet
While doing some full hotbackups via the Oracle db agent, we've noticed that the total size of the jobs ran through Netbackup vs the database size can be 50-70% more. Of those jobs, we see the actual data files as one part of the backup and something called piece handles (from the RMAN) log

Re: [Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows space

2008-01-22 Thread Ed Wilts
On Jan 22, 2008 2:23 PM, Stump, Bob A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do I get past the space in a windows folder name when running bplist from a UNIX master? Like all other Unix shell commands that have spaces in them - escape it. Ditto if you have wildcards in your bplist. For instance

Re: [Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows space

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
Thanks to all The backslash, single quote, double quotes all worked. From: Ed Wilts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:58 PM To: Stump, Bob A Cc: veritas-bu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] UNIX doesn't like windows space On Jan 22,

[Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Stump, Bob A
Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added 558 days to it? For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008? __ The information contained in this message is proprietary and/or confidential. If you are not the intended recipient,

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Excel does date math - just format as date. Input 07/07/08 in one cell (say B5) then in B6 put formula =B5+588 So long as B6 is formatted as a date field it should show you the resulting date. Answer is February 15, 2010 by the way. From: [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Did you want something online / one time thing? http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html Or were you looking for something scriptable? -Jonathan From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Ed Wilts
On Jan 22, 2008 3:16 PM, Stump, Bob A [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added 558 days to it? For instance, what date would it be 558 days after July 7, 2008? In a Linux bash shell: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ewilts]$ date -d 7/7/2008 +558

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Randy Samora
From date: Monday, July 7, 2008 Added 558 days Resulting date: Saturday, January 16, 2010 http://www.timeanddate.com/date/dateadd.html Thanks, Randy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 3:16 PM To: veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Preston, Douglas L
Nbgp.exe is not in windows 6.51 bpdir.exe still exists in windows 6.51 Doug Preston Systems Engineer Land America Tax and Flood Services Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread Preston, Douglas L
My bad, that is left over from a previous version. Doug Preston Systems Engineer Land America Tax and Flood Services Phone 626-339-5221 Ext 1104 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] NOTICE: This electronic mail

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Jeff Lightner
Whoops - my apologies on earlier answer. It is Jan 16 2010 as Ed has it - I accidentally added 588 rather than 558 in my answer. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Wilts Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:48 PM To: Stump, Bob A

Re: [Veritas-bu] Veritas-bu Digest, Vol 21, Issue 37

2008-01-22 Thread John P Heck
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[Veritas-bu] The NBU FAQ needs you

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
Are you the type of person on this list that ANSWERS questions more than you ask them? If so, the NetBackup FAQ needs you. I don't want to call out any names, but you know who you are. It's hosted on my site, backupcentral.com, and is WOEFULLY out of date. (I think it MIGHT have some 4.5 stuff

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Ron Jack (Systems Network)
Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stump, Bob A Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 4:16 PM To: veritas-bu Subject: [Veritas-bu] date calculator Does anyone know how I can recalculate what a date would be if I added 558 days to it? For instance,

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Mark.Donaldson
That's because it's the GNU date command which allows offsets of all varieties. gdate --date=now -7 days +%m/%d/%Y %H:%M:%S The GNU commands are compiled for most OS's (I have a Sol 8 version) and I just soft-linked gdate to the GNU date command so I can call system date with date and GNU date

Re: [Veritas-bu] date calculator

2008-01-22 Thread Conner, Neil
If you need to script it, check out Steffen Beyer's date calculation suite: http://search.cpan.org/dist/Date-Calc. #!/bin/perl -w ### ## ##Copyright (c) 1998 - 2004 by Steffen Beyer. ##All rights reserved. ## ##This

Re: [Veritas-bu] NetBackup vs. The Rest of the World

2008-01-22 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Hmm. Maybe just make stuff up that sounds good? HP Dataprotector was slow to backup, moving at a maximum of 2 KB/hour, it had a habit of putting one file per tape and consumed no less than 4,687,129,391 tapes for a standard Documentum backup. When asked to restore a file, the GUI responded

Re: [Veritas-bu] piece handles in Oracle RMAN backups..what are they?

2008-01-22 Thread Mark.Donaldson
Backup pieces are oracle's names for the blobs of blocks that it sends to netbackup. Since it's a block oriented backup and NB wants to track files, each block-set from Oracle is assigned a piece name and that's supplied off to NB to maintain. When RMAN needs a set of blocks back, it requests

[Veritas-bu] Error code 233 premature eof encountered

2008-01-22 Thread ssloh
Hi folks, VNBU 4.5 error code 233: Master Server (Media Server) : Solaris 8 VNBU version: 4.5GA Tape library: Sun L100 Tape drives: 5 x Seagate LTO1 - The size of data written on the backup that failed with error 233 varies among different clients. Some of them backup 10 GB then failed, some

[Veritas-bu] Restoring NDMP backups over the network

2008-01-22 Thread Jeff Cleverley
Greetings, I'm trying to help out one of our other sites that is getting ready to make some changes to their environment. Looking through the archives brought up a couple of questions. This group is going to be upgrading the filer heads and plans to do remote snapshots to our site. This

[Veritas-bu] Flashbackup

2008-01-22 Thread Haskins, Steve
All, Can a Full backup be set up using Flashbackup and then have a different policy do differentials? I might be missing it but the type of backup dictated from the client side as necessary to get the Flashbackup to work would stop a normal backup from running, correct? Regards. Steve

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring NDMP backups over the network

2008-01-22 Thread Len Boyle
I am a little fuzzy on your exact plan of action. Given that here is what I understand what you can do. 1) netapps write in a dump format. So you can issue the dump command on the netapp and write the data out to tape or read in from tape. Unless things have changed I believe that this is only

Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
No, it can't. NBU doesn't share level information between policies. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haskins, Steve Sent:

Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup

2008-01-22 Thread Randy Samora
I know the first part. If you use one policy to run a Full backup (Flash or otherwise) and then you run a Differential from a different policy, the Differential is going to backup everything and continue backing up everything until a Full backup finishes successfully. A Differential, by

Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup

2008-01-22 Thread Randy Samora
And there's the Reader's Digest version. Thanks, Randy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curtis Preston Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:52 PM To: Haskins, Steve; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup No, it can't. NBU

Re: [Veritas-bu] The NBU FAQ needs you

2008-01-22 Thread Randy Samora
Curtis (as if we've known each other for years), I'd be interested in hacking at the outdated FAQ's. I've been on NetBackup since 3.4, certified on 5, and divorced because of the upgrade to 6. Besides, I think it would be a great way to brush up on the basics again by finding the answers to

[Veritas-bu] catalog in nfs mount point

2008-01-22 Thread ssloh
Anybody put their NetBackup Catalog in nfs mount point from NetApp? Good or Bad ? What need to watch out ? best practices setting ? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup

2008-01-22 Thread Haskins, Steve
I must be misunderstanding Flashbackups. I thought they were only Fulls. Thanks. From: Randy Samora [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 9:09 PM To: Haskins, Steve; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu]

Re: [Veritas-bu] Flashbackup

2008-01-22 Thread Curtis Preston
Flashbackup policies have incrementals as well. --- W. Curtis Preston Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haskins, Steve Sent: Tuesday, January 22,

Re: [Veritas-bu] Restoring NDMP backups over the network

2008-01-22 Thread A Darren Dunham
On Tue, Jan 22, 2008 at 07:57:01PM -0700, Jeff Cleverley wrote: 1. Are all NDMP backups classified as dumps, or should we still be able to restore selected files to another location either on a filer or another file system? The backups are configured for the file system level backups, but

Re: [Veritas-bu] sniff...bpgp is gone from 6.5

2008-01-22 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
I did after sending it, but also thought someone else may add to the link, partly why I posted it! But it looks like it has gone Bob :-) Simon -Original Message- From: Curtis Preston [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 6:27 PM To: WEAVER, Simon (external); Stump,

Re: [Veritas-bu] The NBU FAQ needs you

2008-01-22 Thread WEAVER, Simon (external)
Divorced because of upgade to 6? Gosh, what will happen when going to 6.5 :-) Saying that, I am not married, but due to be. so maybe I should hold off the upgrade to 6.5 for another year ;-) Si. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On