[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Manual Backup - can't see restore

2008-04-30 Thread lottojam
Hi I just figured this out this morning... I did another backup last night of the same box and I was unable to see it this morning for a restore. I then noticed that I had actually set the policy to be a standard policy rather than a windows policy... as soon as I swithced, I was able to see

Re: [Veritas-bu] Is NBU v6.5.1 stable?

2008-04-30 Thread Michael Graff Andersen
Is starting to hate 6.5.1: New bad way of allocation tape drives, certain drive for a job not just the drive that gets free, gave a lot of status 196 Dosn't reflect changes made to to policies/schedule, just had a lot of errors because NBU start non-existing schedules None of the 2007 agents seems

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Manual Backup - can't see restore

2008-04-30 Thread Justin Piszcz
Yes you never want to do that. Standard = for UNIX only. On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, lottojam wrote: Hi I just figured this out this morning... I did another backup last night of the same box and I was unable to see it this morning for a restore. I then noticed that I had actually set the

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Manual Backup - can't see restore

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you never want to do that. Standard = for UNIX only. VMS also uses the Standard policy type. In general, though, you *MUST* back up Windows data with the Windows policy type. Veritas put it in there for a good

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Manual Backup - can't see restore

2008-04-30 Thread netbackup
I believe the restore will work as long as you don't need the registry stuff, but I would certainly change the policy ASAP. my £.02 worth. Regards Patrick   On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:35 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes you never want to do that. Standard = for UNIX only.   VMS

[Veritas-bu] (41) network connection timed out

2008-04-30 Thread Michael Schmarck
Hello. When I run a backup job, I get a (41) network connection timed out error. The backup job triggers a bpstart_notify.$Policy_Name script. In this script, I have a sleep 900 statement. So that this doesn't cause any problems, I increased the BPSTART_TIMEOUT in

Re: [Veritas-bu] (41) network connection timed out

2008-04-30 Thread ckstehman
Have you verified your NIC settings from the client to the switch? In our environment the GigE are autonegotiate, 100MB are full Duplex no auto negotiate. A mismatch between the Cleint's NIC and the switch can cause problems. = Carl Stehman IT Distributed Services

[Veritas-bu] Anyone have any tweaks for LTO-4 and emulex cards under RHEL5?

2008-04-30 Thread Justin Piszcz
I am only seeing 8-10MiB/s directly from RAM (/dev/shm) where if I write the same data to an LTO-3, I see regular speeds, 60-90MiB/s no problems? ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have any tweaks for LTO-4 and emulex cards under RHEL5?

2008-04-30 Thread Jason Slagle
Having just gone through that (Albiet with Qlogic) this is what I did: Make sure the st driver is set to a reasonable buffer size (I did this in /etc/modprobe.conf): options st buffer_kbs=1024 echo 1048576 /usr/openv/netbackup/db/config/SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS echo 1048576

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have any tweaks for LTO-4 and emulex cards under RHEL5?

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 8:17 AM, Justin Piszcz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am only seeing 8-10MiB/s directly from RAM (/dev/shm) where if I write the same data to an LTO-3, I see regular speeds, 60-90MiB/s no problems? What happens if you don't use NetBackup and use native tar to go directly

Re: [Veritas-bu] NDMP Question

2008-04-30 Thread Mike Heck
Christopher, No NDMP backups cannot be multiplexed no matter where the tape side of the backup exists. This is a limitation of NDMP. Multi-streaming is possible with NDMP backups just not Multiplexing. Thanks Mike Heck Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:18:45 -0700 From: Costa, Christopher [EMAIL

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have any tweaks for LTO-4 and emulex cards under RHEL5?

2008-04-30 Thread Justin Piszcz
Yeah yeah that was it I figured it after I sent the e-mail I was in a rush to get these new serves up and forgot about the SIZE_* vars, getting 100MiB/s per tape drive now no problems. On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Jason Slagle wrote: Having just gone through that (Albiet with Qlogic) this is what I

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have any tweaks for LTO-4 and emulex cards under RHEL5?

2008-04-30 Thread Justin Piszcz
Thanks btw ;) On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Justin Piszcz wrote: Yeah yeah that was it I figured it after I sent the e-mail I was in a rush to get these new serves up and forgot about the SIZE_* vars, getting 100MiB/s per tape drive now no problems. On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Jason Slagle wrote:

[Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread Travis Kelley
We recently purchased a VTL to backup some short retention backups to. The backups will expire on the VTL and will not be duplicated to tape or anywhere else for that matter. We also have capacity licensing so we can create as many virtual tape drives as necessary. I don't believe multiplexing

[Veritas-bu] Best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link

2008-04-30 Thread Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy
Dear Gurus, What is the best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link? I will have a tape library on each site. - Should I purchase 2 NetBackup servers and manage them separately? - Is it better (or cheaper) to purchase NetBackup server for a primary site and media manager for the

Re: [Veritas-bu] VMotion - Supported for NBU 6.5 VCB Backups?

2008-04-30 Thread Boris Kraizman
Did you try to use the Virtual Center instead ESX hosts? On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM, David Attreed [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First post so be gentle. Am testing out VCB backups with NBU 6.5 which work absolutely fine. However, when we VMotion the host to a different ESX, NetBackup does

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link

2008-04-30 Thread Justin Piszcz
On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy wrote: Dear Gurus, What is the best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link? I will have a tape library on each site. - Should I purchase 2 NetBackup servers and manage them separately? - Is it better (or cheaper) to purchase

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link

2008-04-30 Thread Norman_Ellis
Based on what you describe, it seems you only want to backup servers in a remote site but are not looking for a DR solution. It would be far cheaper to have a single master server and a media server in the remote site. This obviously keeps the license costs down and centralizes the management.

[Veritas-bu] Netbackup Enterprise Edition 6.5 compatibility

2008-04-30 Thread Leidy, Jason D
Will a Netbackup 6.5 Master\Media server backup Windows NT clients? Jason Leidy Con-way Enterprise Services Windows Server Group 503-450-3958 ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Enterprise Edition 6.5 compatibility

2008-04-30 Thread Len Boyle
yes what levels of windows are you looking at You can go to support.veritas.com and check for levels supported. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Leidy, Jason D Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 5:05 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu]

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have any tweaks for LTO-4 and emulex cards under RHEL5?

2008-04-30 Thread Justin Piszcz
Btw there was a good HP doc, 32 for the NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS and 256k for the SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS is the best. 32 (48) was not any better, but 32 16 was a definite gain in performance. Justin. On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Jason Slagle wrote: Having just gone through that (Albiet with Qlogic) this

Re: [Veritas-bu] Anyone have any tweaks for LTO-4 and emulex cards under RHEL5?

2008-04-30 Thread Justin Piszcz
Also for net_buffer_sz I use 1megabyte.. Also the one everyone forgets: NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS_RESTORE This definitely can speed up restores as well I use 32 for that too) On Wed, 30 Apr 2008, Jason Slagle wrote: Having just gone through that (Albiet with Qlogic) this is what I did: Make sure

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link

2008-04-30 Thread Norman_Ellis
Well if money is no object and you really want a DR solution then the best in my humble opinion is to have a dual node VCS global HA/DR cluster between the two sites and configure NBU as a cluster resource. This also assumes you have libraries and or storage devices with like media drives so

Re: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup Enterprise Edition 6.5 compatibility

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Haskins, Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understood that with version 6.# Windows NT 4.0 would not be supported and migrated the few we have remaining to another backup product before migrating to 6.5. I wasn't brave enough to test them with 6.5. We've

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread Tharp, Trey
The only downside to not multiplexing is the number of drives you have to create and configure as well as the number of virtual media you have to create as well. Depending on the VTL, media can be created by allocating all the virtual cart space up front of allocating space on demand. So, if you

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-04-30 Thread Mike Sparkes
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 5:58 PM, Mike Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if you ever move to de-duplication, the act of multiplexing your backups ruins the ability to detect duplicate blocks. Your de-dupe ratio will be terrible. I don't follow your logic here. Why would multiplexing affect

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread bob944
We recently purchased a VTL to backup some short retention backups to. The backups will expire on the VTL and will not be duplicated to tape or anywhere else for that matter. We also have capacity licensing so we can create as many virtual tape drives as necessary. I don't believe

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread Meidal, Knut
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of bob944 Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 4:36 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's Good reason #1: in my VTL testing experience, making a boatload of

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTLs

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 6:36 PM, Mike Sparkes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Multiplexing mixes streams of data from multiple sources into one stream to the storage device. A de-duplication product on that storage device will be breaking up the stream into blocks and looking for duplicate blocks.

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WANlink

2008-04-30 Thread Martin, Jonathan
When I purchased 6.0 licenses about a year ago Master and Media server licenses were the same cost. I don't see how a Master / Media is any cheaper than a Master / Master unless you've got a software add-on that licenses per Master. I agree with Justin on this one. Unless your WAN is 100%

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread bob944
smaller tapes. And a backup that requires a dozen tapes because they're only 10GB-sized incurs a significant time penalty from all those media change times. === Speaking only for my NetApp VTLs here, but the 'media change time' as in 'rewind, unload drive, put tape in slot, grab a

Re: [Veritas-bu] Multiplexing on VTL's

2008-04-30 Thread Len Boyle
Hello Bob I agree with b and c, but there a can be a little misleading as we learned the hard way this past year. Netbackup records the start of a fragment and not the location of the file on the tape. So it has to read the whole fragment until it finds the file it is looking for. len

Re: [Veritas-bu] Best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link

2008-04-30 Thread Ed Wilts
On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 2:05 PM, Aleksandr Nepomnyashchiy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is the best setup for NetBackup in 2 sites across the WAN link? I will have a tape library on each site. - Should I purchase 2 NetBackup servers and manage them separately? - Is it better (or cheaper)