Re: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

2010-05-11 Thread Shekel Tal
Did you restart the netbackup daemons/services after making the change?

Do you still have the copy mounted?

If so it may also be worth running a test using only 1 LTO-4 drive and
see if the performance increases.

 

 

 

 



From: hemant.kale...@wipro.com [mailto:hemant.kale...@wipro.com] 
Sent: 11 May 2010 06:10
To: Shekel Tal; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

 

Had done the same but still the issue persists

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Hemant S Kalekar

09819949422



From: Shekel Tal [mailto:tal.she...@uk.fujitsu.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 6:04 PM
To: Hemant Kalekar (WI01 - Manage IT); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

 

You should check the bptm and bpbkar logs to see what the system is
waiting for.

Without looking at any of the data I would increase the number data
buffers

 

Try doubling it to 64 and see if you backup times improve

 



From: hemant.kale...@wipro.com [mailto:hemant.kale...@wipro.com] 
Sent: 10 May 2010 13:24
To: Shekel Tal; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

 

hi

 

pls find the output

 # more NUMBER_DATA_BUFFERS
32
# more SIZE_DATA_BUFFERS
262144

 

The server hosting the disk system resource utilisation is normal.

 



From: Shekel Tal [mailto:tal.she...@uk.fujitsu.com]
Sent: Mon 5/10/2010 4:37 PM
To: Hemant Kalekar (WI01 - Manage IT); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

What size data buffers did you use and how many?

 

If you are running a cold flat file backup you would think the jobs
would be flying.

Have you asked your storage admin to check what your storage array is
doing?

Perhaps there are hot spots?

What size raid groups are you using to host the copy?

 

Have you checked the server hosting the disks system resource
utilisation?

 

 



From: hemant.kale...@wipro.com [mailto:hemant.kale...@wipro.com] 
Sent: 10 May 2010 11:49
To: Shekel Tal; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

 

Yes the netbackup is tuned.

 

Agents are installed and cold flat file backup is done.

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Hemant S Kalekar

09819949422



From: Shekel Tal [mailto:tal.she...@uk.fujitsu.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:06 PM
To: Hemant Kalekar (WI01 - Manage IT); veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

 

Have you tuned you NetBackup buffers?

Have a look at the following technote and setup the size and number data
buffers - http://support.veritas.com/docs/183702
http://support.veritas.com/docs/183702 

 

Are you using agents and mounting the image up after the split or just
performing a cold flat file backup after the split?

 

Regards,

Tal



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hemant.kale...@wipro.com
Sent: 10 May 2010 09:07
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

 

HI

 

I am facing problems in backup speed for backing up SAP databases.

 

My setup is as follows

 

I am using shadow image ie split sync for backing up my SAP
databases.The datasize is approximately 13TB.

 

My PVols are mounted from Hitachi 9990V storage and are attached to Sun
M9000 server.

 

My Svols are mounted from Sun storage 6140 and are attached to Sun T5220
which is configured as media server in veritas netbackup6.0.

 

I have L1400 Tape Library from which 4 LTO4 drives are presented to
secondary server from which backup is taken,

 

Average speed per stream is 30MBPS which makes overall throughput of
4*30=120MBPS.backup time is around 36 hours.

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Hemant S Kalekar

09819949422

 

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[Veritas-bu] Backup of SAP NetWeaver AS Java

2010-05-11 Thread Adrian Soetanto
Dear all,

I have a problem in database backup of SAP NetWeaver 7.00 AS Java (Oracle DB).
As i know, NetBackup (SAP Agent) uses BACKINT to connect to the SAP's BRBACKUP.
Since our SAP NetWeaver is AS Java system (not ABAP system), therefore I can't 
execute the transaction code DB13 (which is available in SAP ABAP system) to 
trigger/initiate the backup event to start.
So, my question is, how can I trigger/initiate the NetBackup SAP Agent / 
BACKINT to start the backup of Oracle DB in SAP NetWeaver 7.00 AS Java?

Thank you in advance.

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[Veritas-bu] NDMP multiple streams using NEW_STREAM directive bug: 6.5.3.

2010-05-11 Thread yve0603p

Did you ever get a resolution to this?   We are experiencing the exact same 
thing having added new streams into our NDMP policies.

Regards

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Slow backup speed

2010-05-11 Thread John Meyers
Hemant,

are you using FC or SATA drives on the 6140 S-vols?  Also assuming this is
virtualized behind the 9990V in order to use ShadowImage.  I'd probably
recommend some testing independent of NetBackup to see how fast you can
pull data off these volumes.  Such as use something like ufsdump, tar or
cpio output to /dev/null and watch the transfer rates with something like
iostat -xcn 3.  If that looks good try manually allocating one of the
LTO4 drives and check the raw write speeds to the tapes in a similar
fashion.  If both check out ok then it's most likely a NetBackup tuning
issue.  Either way, at least you'd know where the bottle-neck is at
that point.

Hope this helps.

John

hemant.kale...@wipro.com wrote:
 HI
 
  
 
 I am facing problems in backup speed for backing up SAP databases.
 
  
 
 My setup is as follows
 
  
 
 I am using shadow image ie split sync for backing up my SAP
 databases.The datasize is approximately 13TB.
 
  
 
 My PVols are mounted from Hitachi 9990V storage and are attached to Sun
 M9000 server.
 
  
 
 My Svols are mounted from Sun storage 6140 and are attached to Sun T5220
 which is configured as media server in veritas netbackup6.0.
 
  
 
 I have L1400 Tape Library from which 4 LTO4 drives are presented to
 secondary server from which backup is taken,
 
  
 
 Average speed per stream is 30MBPS which makes overall throughput of
 4*30=120MBPS.backup time is around 36 hours.
 
  
 
 Thanks and Regards
 
  
 
 Hemant S Kalekar
 
 09819949422
 
  
 
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[Veritas-bu] Off Topic: Quantum Library Support

2010-05-11 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Is anyone else having difficulty with Quantum backup/autoloader
libraries, especially in the Asia / Pacific Rim markets? We've got a
standard backup configuration that we deploy to our design centers and
we've been having difficulties with the Quantum libraries we deploy as
part of this configuration. In one case, I had a SuperLoader 3 go bad in
March, replacement go bad in April, and the replacement replacement
seems to be DOA.

It takes Quantum 2 weeks to get me a replacement library and it's a roll
of the dice getting the replacement unit to work. (This is their Rapid
Exchange program.) It's been suggested that environmental factors in
our design centers are causing the failures, but I'm of the opinion that
Quantum's replacement quality is poor. We've had some library issues in
the US and Europe as well, but nothing as bad as the issues I see in my
Asia / Pacific Rim environments.

We've already decided to modify our standard deployment template to
replace the Quantum library with a similar Dell, but I've got something
like 9 libraries already deployed. If I can't get to the bottom of my
library issues, I'm going to be stuck with this nightmare until hardware
refresh happens in 3 years.

-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Off Topic: Quantum Library Support

2010-05-11 Thread Lightner, Jeff
You might want to check on how similar that Dell is.  Often same tape
library is simply relabeled with another vendor's name.  I don't think
Dell is actually making any libraries itself.  It would not be good if
you shipped it only to find it is a Quantum OEM if the issue is with
manufacturing and not support.

It was amusing to me to work at 3 separate jobs.  One had an STK L 700,
Another had an HP which was actually the STK L 700 and yet another had a
Sun (before they bought STK) which was also the same library.   Of
course the vendors always tell you they put something in the firmware
that makes it so much better. 

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:14 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Off Topic: Quantum Library Support

Is anyone else having difficulty with Quantum backup/autoloader
libraries, especially in the Asia / Pacific Rim markets? We've got a
standard backup configuration that we deploy to our design centers and
we've been having difficulties with the Quantum libraries we deploy as
part of this configuration. In one case, I had a SuperLoader 3 go bad in
March, replacement go bad in April, and the replacement replacement
seems to be DOA.

It takes Quantum 2 weeks to get me a replacement library and it's a roll
of the dice getting the replacement unit to work. (This is their Rapid
Exchange program.) It's been suggested that environmental factors in
our design centers are causing the failures, but I'm of the opinion that
Quantum's replacement quality is poor. We've had some library issues in
the US and Europe as well, but nothing as bad as the issues I see in my
Asia / Pacific Rim environments.

We've already decided to modify our standard deployment template to
replace the Quantum library with a similar Dell, but I've got something
like 9 libraries already deployed. If I can't get to the bottom of my
library issues, I'm going to be stuck with this nightmare until hardware
refresh happens in 3 years.

-Jonathan
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Off Topic: Quantum Library Support

2010-05-11 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Yeah, when I said similar I meant that the Dell PV124t is a Quantum
SuperLoader3 with a different faceplate and firmware. I don't actually
have any complaints about the library itself, it works great for the
2-3TB we need to backup weekly. My concern is more related to the
quality of service and replacement units when they do fail.

-Jonathan

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From: Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 12:12 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Off Topic: Quantum Library Support

You might want to check on how similar that Dell is.  Often same tape
library is simply relabeled with another vendor's name.  I don't think
Dell is actually making any libraries itself.  It would not be good if
you shipped it only to find it is a Quantum OEM if the issue is with
manufacturing and not support.

It was amusing to me to work at 3 separate jobs.  One had an STK L 700,
Another had an HP which was actually the STK L 700 and yet another had a
Sun (before they bought STK) which was also the same library.   Of
course the vendors always tell you they put something in the firmware
that makes it so much better. 

-Original Message-
From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Martin,
Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 10:14 AM
To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Off Topic: Quantum Library Support

Is anyone else having difficulty with Quantum backup/autoloader
libraries, especially in the Asia / Pacific Rim markets? We've got a
standard backup configuration that we deploy to our design centers and
we've been having difficulties with the Quantum libraries we deploy as
part of this configuration. In one case, I had a SuperLoader 3 go bad in
March, replacement go bad in April, and the replacement replacement
seems to be DOA.

It takes Quantum 2 weeks to get me a replacement library and it's a roll
of the dice getting the replacement unit to work. (This is their Rapid
Exchange program.) It's been suggested that environmental factors in
our design centers are causing the failures, but I'm of the opinion that
Quantum's replacement quality is poor. We've had some library issues in
the US and Europe as well, but nothing as bad as the issues I see in my
Asia / Pacific Rim environments.

We've already decided to modify our standard deployment template to
replace the Quantum library with a similar Dell, but I've got something
like 9 libraries already deployed. If I can't get to the bottom of my
library issues, I'm going to be stuck with this nightmare until hardware
refresh happens in 3 years.

-Jonathan
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[Veritas-bu] Scratch Media Netbackup 6.5.

2010-05-11 Thread Ulises Rodriguez
Hello All,

Currently I have a scratch media pool for all of my LT02 and 3 tapes. Also, I 
tried to set another scratch media for my WORM tapes.. All the jobs have been 
running for a couple of months. The problem is that I need to assign tapes 
manually to my WORM policy, since NBU does not pick up the tapes automatically. 
Any idea how can I set another WORM type scratch pool for WORM media only? This 
way I can have NBU pickup my WORM tapes from my scratch media?


Running Win2k 64 bit
Netbackup 6.5.5
Storagetek L700 library

Thank you,

Ulises R.
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Re: [Veritas-bu] Scratch Media Netbackup 6.5.

2010-05-11 Thread Martin, Jonathan
Have your WORM policy write to a single volume pool.  Then create a
barcode rule that directs all WORM barcodes automatically into that
volume pool when you load them.  You can't really have a WORM scratch
pool because then any job that wrote to any volume pool that needed a
media would grab a WORM tape.

 

-Jonathan

 

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[mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Ulises
Rodriguez
Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 4:17 PM
To: 'veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu'
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Scratch Media Netbackup 6.5.

 

Hello All, 

 

Currently I have a scratch media pool for all of my LT02 and 3 tapes.
Also, I tried to set another scratch media for my WORM tapes.. All the
jobs have been running for a couple of months. The problem is that I
need to assign tapes manually to my WORM policy, since NBU does not pick
up the tapes automatically. Any idea how can I set another WORM type
scratch pool for WORM media only? This way I can have NBU pickup my WORM
tapes from my scratch media?

 

 

Running Win2k 64 bit

Netbackup 6.5.5 

Storagetek L700 library

 

Thank you, 

 

Ulises R.

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