[Veritas-bu] Backing up through NAT
I have a client that has a small cluster of systems (maybe 2 dozen) behind a NAT firewall. I'm being asked to back all of them up. I've done some Google searches on backing up across NAT, and I'm a little confused about exactly how to do it. Anyone have any tips? - Heathe Kyle Yeakley ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN crosscheck
Jeff - I am pretty sure that there should be synchronizing of the expiration date within RMAN and NetBackup - although the expiration of images within RMAN is handled here by our DBA group. Our process is to backup the control file right after the RMAN backup and our restore process starts with restoring that control file. I know how to un-expire or extend the expiration date of NetBackup images, but I do not know how we would accomplish that within the RMAN control file. We use an 8 week retention period here and have never had issues recovering data, beyond the frustrating part of sometimes being unable to determine what tapes are needed until we try to restore and it asks for an unexpected tape... -Original Message- From: Lightner, Jeff [mailto:jlight...@water.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:27 PM To: David McMullin; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] RMAN crosscheck Thanks. As noted in my original question though, I already do see the images using NBU utilities. The question is how can we restore those images if RMAN doesn't know they exist? The first reply to my original indicated that one has to use RMAN to recover and RMAN doesn't know they're there. The mail you quoted below had a link that seemed to suggest you could make RMAN know by using crosscheck to talk to media manager which I assumed meant NBU in this case. It seems you're now saying that isn't reliable so I'm back to the original question above. Symantec's response you quoted seems to indicate there is some value knowing where the NBU images are but doesn't answer the question. Perhaps there's a flawed assumption? Does a restore from NBU have to be done via RMAN if it was backed up via RMAN? Does it not matter that it isn't in the RMAN catalog so long as it is in the NBU catalog? -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of David McMullin Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 4:17 PM To: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: [Veritas-bu] RMAN crosscheck I am working with my DBA and Symantec, opened a ticket and found this issue from the RMAN side: Here is my note to them: Please review case # 291-053-107. Our Oracle DBA are extremely upset that the tools available to them to troubleshoot in a DR situation are so poor. They have no reliable way to determine something as simple as which media to request. * The Oracle RMAN utility, referencing the control files or RMAN catalog database, knows what backupsets are needed for a restore. * Only RMAN knows what backup pieces are needed for a restore. * While there is an RMAN command that will list the images that a particular backupset resides on, but this list is incomplete if an image spans several media. NOTE THIS PART! but this list is incomplete if an image spans several media. Here is Symantec response: I consulted with my seniors and my peers who work with NOM, and unfortunately we do not have a report that can show us the backupset mapping with the media id. So we'll have to follow the same procedure to know the media-ids: Oracle DBA tells you the data range information, client name from the backupset query. You can run bpimagelist and bpimmedia commands to know the medias required for recovery of that backupset. Message: 7 Date: Wed, 19 May 2010 15:04:54 +0200 From: Michael Graff Andersen mia...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] RMAN crosscheck To: Lightner, Jeff jlight...@water.com Cc: veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu, Kevin Corley kevin.cor...@apollogrp.edu Message-ID: aanlktikyylbqqbqakuc6433zt-ltm6hwqixc8bwvh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Think there is, at least according to this page http://ss64.com/ora/rman_crosscheck.html Regards Michael ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up through NAT
I don't know that it matters they're NATted. Can you access them via the NATted IPs from your Master server? If not are there any other IPs you can? So long as you your master connects to the host it seems it would back it up. The only issue I know of would be if you had a host name resolution that was providing IPs other than the ones you are using. You may not need to sue the NATted IPs though. Typically when you firewall a host you're putting it in your DMZ so would have an outward facing IP (the NATted one the world sees) and an inward facing one (on another firewall). You should have the Network admins open the ports on the inward facing one between to/from your master (e.g. bpcd). You should then be able to back up by using that inward facing IP - you might want to set a separate hostname for it though (e.g. if the outward one is client.example.com you might want to set your internal DNS to find the inward facing IP as client.dmz.example.com - or you could set client.example.com in the hosts file of your master with the inward facing IP and insure your nsswitch conf on master uses files before dns.. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 9:09 AM To: NetBackup Mailing List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up through NAT I have a client that has a small cluster of systems (maybe 2 dozen) behind a NAT firewall. I'm being asked to back all of them up. I've done some Google searches on backing up across NAT, and I'm a little confused about exactly how to do it. Anyone have any tips? - Heathe Kyle Yeakley ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu Proud partner. Susan G. Komen for the Cure. Please consider our environment before printing this e-mail or attachments. -- CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail may contain privileged or confidential information and is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you. -- ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Backing up through NAT
So long as they are only doing a static one to one NAT it should work but you need to make sure you are resolving the outside global NAT-ed IP address to the correct hostname. And if they are NAT-ing into the network from the DMZ you need to make sure the inside IP addresses are translated to the correct hostnames. If they are using dynamic NAT or Port Address Translation or PAT it will NOT work. It must be static one to one NAT. Using host files is probably going to be the best solution. Easiest way to determine how the servers are translated is to run the command from the client side bpclntcmd -pn. That will show how the client server is connecting to the NBU master server. From the master server side simply telnet to the clients bpcd port 13782 and with the bpcd log enabled on the client look for the source IP address incoming in the BPCD ACCEPPT message. If it shows up as the firewall's outside interface IP address then it is using PAT and will not work. Then simply add the translated incoming IP address in the client's host file tagged to the master server hostname. -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of Heathe Yeakley Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 8:09 AM To: NetBackup Mailing List Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up through NAT I have a client that has a small cluster of systems (maybe 2 dozen) behind a NAT firewall. I'm being asked to back all of them up. I've done some Google searches on backing up across NAT, and I'm a little confused about exactly how to do it. Anyone have any tips? - Heathe Kyle Yeakley ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] Disk Staging With Operation Status = 0
If NetBackup is unable to write to the log files it will stall and not run. Check the logs directory and also the logs in the db directory sometimes they can get to be many GB in size. Either remove them or move them to another spot to free up space. At least that is what occurred to us when we had a similar problem. Dustin D'Amour Wireless Switch Technician Plateau Wireless 575.389.4189 - office 575.309.6372 - cell dust...@plateautel.com (\_/) (O.o) ( ) -Original Message- From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of moehatdee Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2010 9:03 PM To: veritas-bu Subject: [Veritas-bu] Disk Staging With Operation Status = 0 Dear All, I have configured DSSU (Disk Staging Storage Unit) and FSU (Final Destination Storage Unit) on NetBackup 6.0MP7 running on Solaris 10 Media Server. When the capacity reached 100% of capacity, the schedule was running but the data cannot be stagged or moved to tape. Would you like to share your experience how to solve this problem. Appreciate for your helping. Below is the detail job status: - requesting resource .NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS.X - requesting resource .NBU_POLICY.MAXJOB_DSSU_POLICY__dssu_01 - granted resource .NBU_CLIENT.MAXJOBS. - granted resource .NBU_POLICYMAXJOBS_DSSU_POLICY_ - begin Parent Job - begin Disk Staging: Execute Script - Started process bpbrm (pid=95890) - end writing Operation Status: 0 - end Disk Staging: Execute Script, elapsed time 0:00:02 - begin Disk Staging: Validate Image - Operation Status: 0 - end Disk Staging: Validate Image; elapsed time 0:00:00 - end Parent Job: elapsed time 0:00:02 the requested operation was successfully completed. Detail configuration is: 1. Disk Storage Unit properties: - High low Water Mark are default (98% and 80%) - Enable Temporary Storage Area is checked. 2. Disk Staging schedule properties: - priority of relocation jobs started from this schedule : 9 - final destination storage unit : sl8000 - final destination volume : test - schedule type : calendar - Start Window : Sunday 12:00:00 - Sunday 16:00:00 - calendar schedule : Sunday-Saturday, are cheched. Regards, Moehatdee ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] VSP making server hung.
Hello, There is one windows 2003 server and we are taking it's backup via VSP .What we have found that in last couple of weeks that when ever tha backup starts the server gets hung. PS:-We have adequate free space in all of the drives.When i changed snapshot from VSP to VSS:-It started working fine. Though i know that VSS is recommended for 2003 servers but we were using VSP since long and thuis server hang issue is very new. Please explain as i am a bit confused between VSP and VSS. Does VSP play any part in making the server hung?Does VSP deletes the nbu_vsp_cache after the reboot of the server ?Or it's something else that ia making the server hung ? Please clear me on this. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra _ Catch the latest in the world of fashion http://lifestyle.in.msn.com/___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VSP making server hung.
The Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) is a Microsoft product that is built into Windows (2003+). It functions similarly to the Veritas Snapshot Provider (VSP) in that it allows you to backup open files on a volume. VSS is recommended for 2003, but both should function. I would try the following. 1 - run chkdsk /f on the drive with the issue, disk corruption can kill a shadow copy 2 - reinstall the NetBackup client and Maintenance Pack (reboot if requested) 3 - Make sure there is enough free space on the drive you are writing the vsp cache too (configured on master server) VSP has known issues in older versions of NetBackup. That vsp_cache file is a known issue if a backup fails unexpectedly. You can use process explorer to release the handle and delete it manually, or manually delete it after rebooting. -Jonathan From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav batra Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:16 PM To: Veritas Subject: [Veritas-bu] VSP making server hung. Hello, There is one windows 2003 server and we are taking it's backup via VSP . What we have found that in last couple of weeks that when ever tha backup starts the server gets hung. PS:-We have adequate free space in all of the drives. When i changed snapshot from VSP to VSS:-It started working fine. Though i know that VSS is recommended for 2003 servers but we were using VSP since long and thuis server hang issue is very new. Please explain as i am a bit confused between VSP and VSS. Does VSP play any part in making the server hung? Does VSP deletes the nbu_vsp_cache after the reboot of the server ? Or it's something else that ia making the server hung ? Please clear me on this. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra All the post budget analysis and implications Sign up now. http://news.in.msn.com/moneyspecial/budget2010/ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] VSP making server hung.
Hello, Thanks for the quick reply!! The thing is that i am looking for a reason why using VSP makes the server to hung. PS: We have adequate space in all the drives. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] VSP making server hung. Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 12:27:32 -0400 From: jmart...@intersil.com To: pranav_vent...@hotmail.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu The Volume Shadow Copy Service (VSS) is a Microsoft product that is built into Windows (2003+). It functions similarly to the Veritas Snapshot Provider (VSP) in that it allows you to backup open files on a volume. VSS is recommended for 2003, but both should function. I would try the following. 1 – run chkdsk /f on the drive with the issue, disk corruption can kill a shadow copy 2 – reinstall the NetBackup client and Maintenance Pack (reboot if requested) 3 – Make sure there is enough free space on the drive you are writing the vsp cache too (configured on master server) VSP has known issues in older versions of NetBackup. That vsp_cache file is a known issue if a backup fails unexpectedly. You can use process explorer to release the handle and delete it manually, or manually delete it after rebooting. -Jonathan From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav batra Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 12:16 PM To: Veritas Subject: [Veritas-bu] VSP making server hung. Hello, There is one windows 2003 server and we are taking it's backup via VSP . What we have found that in last couple of weeks that when ever tha backup starts the server gets hung. PS:-We have adequate free space in all of the drives. When i changed snapshot from VSP to VSS:-It started working fine. Though i know that VSS is recommended for 2003 servers but we were using VSP since long and thuis server hang issue is very new. Please explain as i am a bit confused between VSP and VSS. Does VSP play any part in making the server hung? Does VSP deletes the nbu_vsp_cache after the reboot of the server ? Or it's something else that ia making the server hung ? Please clear me on this. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra All the post budget analysis and implications Sign up now. _ Climate, controversies and the changing signatures of nature http://green.in.msn.com/___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue
Hello, We have pushed netbackup client from 6.5.4 master server in HP-UX(11.11) client.But the client verion is showing as 6.5 only.Why this? I didn't see any issue with the push:-Everything happened smooth. Kindly help. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra _ The amazing world in sharp snaps http://news.in.msn.com/gallery/archive.aspx___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue
Actually check on the client. I know 6.5.3 Unix clients did not show position 3, but on 6.5.5 it does. I was never on 6.5.4 so not sure if it gave position 3 or not. So when I was on 6.5.3 all my unix servers only showed 6.5 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav batra Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:34 PM To: Veritas Subject: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue Hello, We have pushed netbackup client from 6.5.4 master server in HP-UX(11.11) client. But the client verion is showing as 6.5 only. Why this? I didn't see any issue with the push:-Everything happened smooth. Kindly help. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra Catch the changing security environment Get it now.http://news.in.msn.com/internalsecurity/ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue
We've always had the 3rd position in /usr/openv/netbackup/version Ex: NetBackup-HP-UX11.23 6.5.4 I push using the java gui - haven't pushed via script at all... From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:20 PM To: pranav_vent...@hotmail.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue Actually check on the client. I know 6.5.3 Unix clients did not show position 3, but on 6.5.5 it does. I was never on 6.5.4 so not sure if it gave position 3 or not. So when I was on 6.5.3 all my unix servers only showed 6.5 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav batra Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:34 PM To: Veritas Subject: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue Hello, We have pushed netbackup client from 6.5.4 master server in HP-UX(11.11) client. But the client verion is showing as 6.5 only. Why this? I didn't see any issue with the push:-Everything happened smooth. Kindly help. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra Catch the changing security environment Get it now. http://news.in.msn.com/internalsecurity/ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue
I use the windows remote admin console. From: Kalusche, Dan [mailto:dan.kalus...@andersencorp.com] Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:23 PM To: Judy Hinchcliffe; pranav_vent...@hotmail.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue We've always had the 3rd position in /usr/openv/netbackup/version Ex: NetBackup-HP-UX11.23 6.5.4 I push using the java gui - haven't pushed via script at all... From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of judy_hinchcli...@administaff.com Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 2:20 PM To: pranav_vent...@hotmail.com; veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue Actually check on the client. I know 6.5.3 Unix clients did not show position 3, but on 6.5.5 it does. I was never on 6.5.4 so not sure if it gave position 3 or not. So when I was on 6.5.3 all my unix servers only showed 6.5 From: veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu [mailto:veritas-bu-boun...@mailman.eng.auburn.edu] On Behalf Of pranav batra Sent: Thursday, May 20, 2010 1:34 PM To: Veritas Subject: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue Hello, We have pushed netbackup client from 6.5.4 master server in HP-UX(11.11) client. But the client verion is showing as 6.5 only. Why this? I didn't see any issue with the push:-Everything happened smooth. Kindly help. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra Catch the changing security environment Get it now.http://news.in.msn.com/internalsecurity/ ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
Re: [Veritas-bu] HP-UX-Client version issue
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 1:33 PM, pranav batra pranav_vent...@hotmail.comwrote: We have pushed netbackup client from 6.5.4 master server in HP-UX(11.11) client. But the client verion is showing as 6.5 only. Why this? I didn't see any issue with the push:-Everything happened smooth. NetBackup can be really ornery when checking versions. Try this command: [r...@master ~]# bpgetconfig -s hpuxhost.bck.mrll.com -A -L Client/Master = Client of master.bck.mrll.com NetBackup Client Platform = HP9000-800, HP-UX11.11 NetBackup Client Protocol Level = 6.5.4 Product = NetBackup Version Name = 6.5 Version Number = 65 NetBackup Installation Path = /usr/openv/netbackup/bin Client OS/Release = HP-UX B.11.11 Cipher = Patch Level = 6.5.4 Ed Wilts, RHCE, BCFP, BCSD, SCSP, SCSE ewi...@ewilts.org Linkedin http://www.linkedin.com/in/ewilts ___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
[Veritas-bu] Backup exec and Netbackup on same client
Can a backup run simuntaneously via backup exec and netbackup. I guess they both use diffrent ports for communication. I have loaded backup exec and netbackup on same client:-I am not going to run backups via both but still wanna confirm if this is possible to run backups using both and that too at a same time. PS: Using seperate ethernet cards for the data tranfer. Thanks and Regards Pranav Batra _ Climate, controversies and the changing signatures of nature http://green.in.msn.com/___ Veritas-bu maillist - Veritas-bu@mailman.eng.auburn.edu http://mailman.eng.auburn.edu/mailman/listinfo/veritas-bu
