Re: [Veritas-bu] Nic Utilization

2010-04-12 Thread Shekel Tal
Hi Heather

If you have Cisco switches you can use EtherChannel (PAgP) which is very
similar to LACP for port aggregation - you would want to load balance by
source MAC. This should benefit your media servers depending on what
backup devices they are writing to.

You will also the need some kind of multipathing/load balancing software
running on your backup servers.

If your master server is a dedicated master you should simply configure
it for failover as a 1Gb nic should be more than enough.

What backup devices do you have on your media servers?
If you have anything which can write faster than about 60 Mb p/s you
should definitely get some load balancing setup

The bp.conf setting will push data out of a specific interface on the
client itself where possible so you would really be able to control
which interface it goes to on the media server.

You could add entries into the clients hosts file so different client
send data to different interfaces on the server but that creates single
points of failures and is a little messy

Cheers

Tal



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Kyle Yeakley
Sent: 08 April 2010 21:34
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Subject: [Veritas-bu] Nic Utilization

I had a question about how everyone else utilizes the NICs inside your 
master and media servers.

I have 1 master and 2 media. Like most systems these days, I have 3-4 
NICs in each one. The administrator that setup our existing environment 
plumbed 1 NIC per machine, and the other NICs sit there, completely 
unused. At night, when our backup are running, it isn't unheard of for 
the NICs on all three machine to reach a high utilization level.

This got me to thinking. I've read that you can set an option in the 
bp.conf file and have various clients backup to different interfaces on 
the same physical master and/or media server, but I've never actually 
deployed that feature. I've also heard of a technology called Link 
Aggregation Control Protocol (LACP) that allows you to tie multiple NICs

together to increase the total bandwidth into your server.

Does anyone else employ these technologies?
Does everyone else just plumb one NIC and let the backups trickle in as 
fast as the LAN allows?
Is there other aggregation technology out there that folks are using to 
utilize and squeeze more bandwidth out of those unused NICs?

Thanks.

- Heathe Kyle Yeakley

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[Veritas-bu] Nic Utilization

2010-04-08 Thread Heathe Kyle Yeakley
I had a question about how everyone else utilizes the NICs inside your 
master and media servers.

I have 1 master and 2 media. Like most systems these days, I have 3-4 
NICs in each one. The administrator that setup our existing environment 
plumbed 1 NIC per machine, and the other NICs sit there, completely 
unused. At night, when our backup are running, it isn't unheard of for 
the NICs on all three machine to reach a high utilization level.

This got me to thinking. I've read that you can set an option in the 
bp.conf file and have various clients backup to different interfaces on 
the same physical master and/or media server, but I've never actually 
deployed that feature. I've also heard of a technology called Link 
Aggregation Control Protocol (LACP) that allows you to tie multiple NICs 
together to increase the total bandwidth into your server.

Does anyone else employ these technologies?
Does everyone else just plumb one NIC and let the backups trickle in as 
fast as the LAN allows?
Is there other aggregation technology out there that folks are using to 
utilize and squeeze more bandwidth out of those unused NICs?

Thanks.

- Heathe Kyle Yeakley

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Nic Utilization

2010-04-08 Thread Jeff Cleverley
Heathe,

I'm guessing many people use some level of port aggregation on their
servers.  The methods to do this vary based on the OS of your servers and
the model of switches you have.  Linux often goes under the name Channel
Bonding while HPUX calls it Port Aggregation.

Basically the switch and the server group connections together into one
logical link.  You will still have one host name and won't need to fool with
anything else.

You'll need to do some research on how to do it with your OS and make sure
your switches are set to the proper setting.  We trashed our network pretty
badly one time when things were not set correctly (older switches looping)
so make sure you do it right :-)

Jeff

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Heathe Kyle Yeakley hkyeak...@gmail.comwrote:

 I had a question about how everyone else utilizes the NICs inside your
 master and media servers.

 I have 1 master and 2 media. Like most systems these days, I have 3-4
 NICs in each one. The administrator that setup our existing environment
 plumbed 1 NIC per machine, and the other NICs sit there, completely
 unused. At night, when our backup are running, it isn't unheard of for
 the NICs on all three machine to reach a high utilization level.

 This got me to thinking. I've read that you can set an option in the
 bp.conf file and have various clients backup to different interfaces on
 the same physical master and/or media server, but I've never actually
 deployed that feature. I've also heard of a technology called Link
 Aggregation Control Protocol (LACP) that allows you to tie multiple NICs
 together to increase the total bandwidth into your server.

 Does anyone else employ these technologies?
 Does everyone else just plumb one NIC and let the backups trickle in as
 fast as the LAN allows?
 Is there other aggregation technology out there that folks are using to
 utilize and squeeze more bandwidth out of those unused NICs?

 Thanks.

 - Heathe Kyle Yeakley

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Re: [Veritas-bu] Nic Utilization

2010-04-08 Thread Gary Gatling


Hello,

We had a simple setup with several file servers (AFS) and one master / 
media server and one robot with two drives. The file servers and the 
master / media server were connected via eth0 or bge0 actually to the 
regular LAN. But eth1 bge1 was connected to a private switch. The afs 
file servers were configured to only use eth0 or bge0 and the bge1 eth1 
nic was assigned a private host name. (/etc/hosts)  Netbackup was 
configured with the clients to use these private names, eg: real name 
engr06f and then we have engr06f-prv. Netbackup used engr06f-prv, so all 
the backups went over the private network. I understand this setup is 
pretty common. The gentleman who set it up in the first place told me that 
as I inherited it when he moved to greener pastures. :)


Now another group runs a bigger netbackup system that we hook into here 
at NCSU and it has lots of media servers. But now everything (file 
server stuff and backups) runs on the primary nic and the other ports go 
unused. But because they have more (virtual) tape drives the backups go 
much faster because it can run 5 streams for 5 partitions. We don't see 
issues with the file servers being noticeably slower during backups with 
the new setup. We're backing up about 2TB of data total with these 
servers.


Hope that helped.

Gary Gatling  | ITECS Systems
ITECS, BOX 7901   | Operations and Systems Analyst
NCSU, Raleigh, NC | Email: gsgat...@eos.ncsu.edu
27695-7901| Phone: (919) 513-4572 (5C Page Hall)


On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Heathe Kyle Yeakley hkyeak...@gmail.com
wrote:
  I had a question about how everyone else utilizes the NICs
  inside your
  master and media servers.

  I have 1 master and 2 media. Like most systems these days, I
  have 3-4
  NICs in each one. The administrator that setup our existing
  environment
  plumbed 1 NIC per machine, and the other NICs sit there,
  completely
  unused. At night, when our backup are running, it isn't unheard
  of for
  the NICs on all three machine to reach a high utilization level.

  This got me to thinking. I've read that you can set an option in
  the
  bp.conf file and have various clients backup to different
  interfaces on
  the same physical master and/or media server, but I've never
  actually
  deployed that feature. I've also heard of a technology called
  Link
  Aggregation Control Protocol (LACP) that allows you to tie
  multiple NICs
  together to increase the total bandwidth into your server.

  Does anyone else employ these technologies?
  Does everyone else just plumb one NIC and let the backups
  trickle in as
  fast as the LAN allows?
  Is there other aggregation technology out there that folks are
  using to
  utilize and squeeze more bandwidth out of those unused NICs?

  Thanks.

  - Heathe Kyle Yeakley

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