Re: [Veritas-vx] VxVM -- "Moving" Large Amounts of Data

2009-02-10 Thread Sengor
As others have pointed out, we don't really know which hardware and software
resources you've got at disposal.

- Most generic solution would be to use plexes to migrate the data.
- You'll need to mess around with zoning and masking on the SAN side
regardless of what option you take
- BCVs are going to be your friend if you're short on execution time, but
plentyful on planning time (and if you're just copying data within the same
array)
- Maybe SRDF is an option here too if you're moving from one array to
another.
- Joining and Splitting DGs would be my preference via either plex copies or
snapshots, but VxVM version might not allow you to do this natively (and
from what I recall you gotta  have licenses for certain types of snaps?).
- You could perhaps also do a ufsdump/vxdump or restore from your backups
infrastructure (this probably won't work for the raw vols, but depends how
it's backed up exactly).

All in all you'll need to look at the details and timeframes carefully
before deciding.

On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:14 PM, T  wrote:

> Hi all.
> Sorry about the vague subject.
>
> Here is the situation and I am really looking for any ideas or comments on
> the following:
>
> I have inherited 20TBs of data split between 2 Servers (
> Solaris/Sunfire/Sol8)
> 
>
> Each Server has 2 diskgroups.
> Oracle and Sybase Filesystems and Raw Volumes. ( Mixed between diskgroups )
>
> ** My main issue ( or so I think ) is going to be moving the Raw Volumes **
>
> ==
>
> I need to move ~5TBs from  to another server.  than move
> ~2TBs from 
>
> 1)  Get equal amount of EMC storage mapped to ServerC
>  Veritas mirror all the volumes from ServerA to ServerC
>  Break Mirror and "fix" any issues on ServerA.
>
> 2)   Would "FlashSnap" or any other "tool" allow me to copy/move volumes
> from 1  diskgroup   to another diskgroup.
> This would be the ideal situation, yes?
>
>
> Any ideas would be welcome and very much appreciated!
>
> Thank you.
>
> MWarnock
>
>
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Re: [Veritas-vx] VxVM -- "Moving" Large Amounts of Data

2009-02-09 Thread Rich Whiffen

Well,

Like Andrey said, your not being very specific on what you want the  
end state to be or what versions you have, etc.  That said, are BCV's  
an option?  They're tailor made for this kind of stuff.   The array  
would do all the work for you and the systems could be up while you're  
doing it.  There's no difference from a VxVM or EMC-BCV perspective  
between mirroring filesystems or raw volumes.  They're both done the  
same so it won't be an issue.  I forget what version of VxVM gives you  
the ability to split DG's easily but in the newer versions it's pretty  
easy and safe.  In the older versions you had to do some voodoo via  
the command line to move volumes to different DG's.  It is possible  
however.


Assuming ServerC can *NOT* see the storage ServerA and ServerB (and  
vise-versa).


I'm assuming symmetrix/DMX here, but the Clariions can do it too:
I would split BCV's off of the serverA and ServerB (putting databases  
in hot backup mode or what ever needs to be done to get a consistent  
split)
"Restore" those BCV's to new 'mirrored' storage (or if the BCV's are  
already mirrored convert to M1)

Present that storage to ServerC,
Import the DG's and be done, if needed you could clean up extraneous  
volumes (on each end) and rename the DG's to avoid confusion with  
ServerA and ServerB


But if the servers need to see each other storage for clustering/ 
failover purposes, this won't work because the new storage will be an  
exact copy of the DG's and depending on the version, VxVM will freak  
out about it. How you handle that situation depends greatly on the  
version of volume manager you're running, but in general, you can  
change the serial number for the DG so it's different than the  
original and go on your way.


Anyway, just my two cents worth.

Rich Whiffen


On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:14 PM, T wrote:


Hi all.
Sorry about the vague subject.

Here is the situation and I am really looking for any ideas or  
comments on the following:


I have inherited 20TBs of data split between 2 Servers ( Solaris/ 
Sunfire/Sol8)



Each Server has 2 diskgroups.
Oracle and Sybase Filesystems and Raw Volumes. ( Mixed between  
diskgroups )


** My main issue ( or so I think ) is going to be moving the Raw  
Volumes **


==

I need to move ~5TBs from  to another server.   
than move ~2TBs from 


1)  Get equal amount of EMC storage mapped to ServerC
 Veritas mirror all the volumes from ServerA to ServerC
 Break Mirror and "fix" any issues on ServerA.

2)   Would "FlashSnap" or any other "tool" allow me to copy/move  
volumes from 1  diskgroup   to another diskgroup.

This would be the ideal situation, yes?


Any ideas would be welcome and very much appreciated!

Thank you.

MWarnock

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Re: [Veritas-vx] VxVM -- "Moving" Large Amounts of Data

2009-02-09 Thread Andrey Dmitriev
If this is s SAN you deport on one import on the other.. data moved.

Your requirements are vague as well.

-andrey

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Subject: [Veritas-vx] VxVM -- "Moving" Large Amounts of Data

Hi all.
Sorry about the vague subject.

Here is the situation and I am really looking for any ideas or comments on the 
following:

I have inherited 20TBs of data split between 2 Servers ( Solaris/Sunfire/Sol8)


Each Server has 2 diskgroups.
Oracle and Sybase Filesystems and Raw Volumes. ( Mixed between diskgroups )

** My main issue ( or so I think ) is going to be moving the Raw Volumes **

==

I need to move ~5TBs from  to another server.  than move 
~2TBs from 

1)  Get equal amount of EMC storage mapped to ServerC
 Veritas mirror all the volumes from ServerA to ServerC
 Break Mirror and "fix" any issues on ServerA.

2)   Would "FlashSnap" or any other "tool" allow me to copy/move volumes from 1 
 diskgroup   to another diskgroup.
This would be the ideal situation, yes?


Any ideas would be welcome and very much appreciated!

Thank you.

MWarnock


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